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Mayfair Games Shuts Down After 36 Years of Board Games (polygon.com)

damnbunni writes: Longtime board game publisher Mayfair Games (English-language publisher for Settlers of Catan, Agricola, and many more) has shut down after 36 years. All of their games have been sold to Asmodee, who also owns Fantasy Flight Games, Z-Man Games, Rebel, Edge Entertainment, and a host of other board game companies they've picked up over the years. "As of today, the management team at Mayfair Games, Inc. announces we will wind down game publishing," the company said in a statement. "After 36 years, this was not an easy decision or one we took lightly, but it was necessary. Once we had come to this conclusion, we knew we had to find a good home for our games which is when we reached out to Asmodee."

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  1. Quite a portfolio by tgibson · · Score: 4, Informative

    A listing of games (sorted by rank) that BoardGameGeek shows as published by Mayfair Games

    1. Re: Quite a portfolio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's mostly American editions of existing games though.

  2. Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean that Asmodee now own all North American board game publishers? They must be getting close.

    1. Re:Asmodee by damnbunni · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, they don't own Hasbro, which is the biggest board game company in the world.

    2. Re:Asmodee by Chas · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh hell no! Fantasy Flight was merely the biggest.

      There are multiple publishers out there putting out board games. Maybe just not in the same way that FF did.

      Iello's had a pretty decent track record with their churn & burn style. They make decent money and move on to their next title(s). They only really need one to "stick" the way Catan did and they're set.

      Also, publishers of other types of games (RPGs, card games, etc) have the odd board games as well.

      Catalyst Game Labs (Shadowrun & BattleTech) has done well with their "The Duke" and their Vikings themed "Jarl" tile game. They've also had offerings like Wrath of Dragons, a Vikings boardgame, Balance of Power, etc. They've also got the Crossfire-based deck-building games (Shadowrun Crossfire and Dragonfire).

      And that's just two examples. Asmodee is just the 1600 lb French gorilla now.

      We'll see if this attempt to buy market domination works in the long run or bites them. Hopefully it does. Because having Asmodee just up and fall over would be UGLY for the industry...

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    3. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hasbro mostly makes toys, not board games.

    4. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Monopoly, Guess Who, Operation, Game of Life, Risk, Clue, Trivial Pursuit...yes, they are a totally niche board game producer.

    5. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those are all from the 1970s or before and aimed at children. They aren't really competing with the likes of Asmodee, Hans im Glück, Pegasus, Ravensburger, Kosmos, etc.

    6. Re: Asmodee by damnbunni · · Score: 2

      'Hasbro' includes 'Avalon Hill' as well. Quite a few older-player games in that portfolio. Betrayal at House on the Hill, for instance.

    7. Re: Asmodee by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Niche player into shit-games it seem.

      Asmodee have all the modern ones?

      But there's also cool stuff Inc atleast

    8. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumb A**

    9. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hasbro mostly makes toys, not board games.

      Yes, Habro makes a lot of toys. That dwarfs their board game section. Which is the LARGEST in the world.

    10. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Niche player into shit-games it seem.

      Asmodee have all the modern ones?

      But there's also cool stuff Inc atleast

      Asmodee is a game publisher. CoolStuffInc is a retailer.

    11. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Loved the Avalon Hill games growing up and now I play otehrs like what they offered through Steam and GoG. Most are GoG.

    12. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hasbto owns the Milton Bradley brand

    13. Re: Asmodee by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I mean the company which do a lot of massive box of plastic Kickstarter projects. Zombicide and such. I haven't really been into the game for ~three years or so so maybe I thought about the wrong name then.

      Cool Mini or Not. Close enough .. :D

    14. Re: Asmodee by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      Niche player into shit-games it seem.

      Asmodee have all the modern ones?

      But there's also cool stuff Inc atleast

      There are plenty of game publishers out there. Heck, there's a thriving indie scene as well (Kickstarter funded, but a lot of them make it to retail).

      Asmodee is, however, one of the larger publishers now, but it appears like Hasbro and other companies to keep their holdings as separate identities. Z-Man, for example, still publishes under Z-Man - there aren't many games that publish directly under Asmodee.

      And your FLGS will be happy to show you plenty of publishers that aren't part of the Asmodee empire. Rio Grande, Czech Games Edition, CMON (Cool Mini Or Not).

      Then there's indies like Stonemeier Games, Renegade (who has a huge catalog as well), IDW, etc. And more popping up daily. Interestingly, if you've managed to break through the barriers (which aren't high), going from Kickstarter to retail isn't all that hard. My FLGS gets in a lot of games merely on recommendations, and the only big one is getting a distributorship so the store can order it in.

    15. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They also make Magic: The Gathering. It's a collectible card game that has been running for 25 years.

    16. Re: Asmodee by Derec01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Monopoly, Guess Who, Operation, Game of Life, Risk, Clue, Trivial Pursuit...yes, they are a totally niche board game producer.

      It's hard to say it without being a little dismissive, I suppose, but those games are largely considered antiquated and rarely appear in the modern board game community. They have a built in audience, certainly, of boomers buying games they remember from childhood; however, the market targeted by Asmodee, Mayfair, Fantasy Flight, etc. do not buy those games and are generally interested in fresher, newer designs, spurred on by hype from the big game conventions and sites like boardgamegeek.com.

      Hasbro certainly doesn't attempt to set up a booth at Origins Game Fair or GenCon to sell Monopoly.

    17. Re: Asmodee by CronoCloud · · Score: 2

      There's newer and more adult games from Hasbro. Besides, a lot of those pre-70's games are CLASSICS. And besides owning Milton Bradley AND Parker Brothers AND Kenner (IIRC they had a few board games), they also own Avalon Hill, AND Wizards of the Coast (which would also include TSR/SPI assets). Why they didn't pick up Pressman as well I'll never know.

      They also act as publisher for some of those Eurogame companies in the US. It isn't Ravensburger that publishes Scotland Yard in the US, it is Hasbro.

      So yes, Hasbro is the big kahuna of boardgames.

    18. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting. They don't seem to be big in Europe outside the classics.

    19. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt it. Compared to Asmodée, their collection is tiny.

    20. Re: Asmodee by Megane · · Score: 2

      The story that I heard about Hasbro buying Avalon Hill was that some exec at Hasbro told a flunkie to buy "that Civilization company". Apparently he meant Civilization the Sid Meier computer game by Microprose, but the flunkie instead saw Civilization the board game by Avalon Hill. In fact, Microprose had licensed the use of the name from Avalon Hill. The amount he was told to offer (in expectation of buying a software company) was an offer so good for Avalon Hill that they would have been stupid to refuse it.

      But checking Wikipedia, it seems that Hasbro did end up getting Microprose a few months later, which resolved some troubles between AH and MP.

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    21. Re: Asmodee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > And your FLGS will be happy to show you plenty of publishers that aren't *yet* part of the Asmodee empire

      FTFY

  3. Called it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yep. The various members of the gaming industry were just waiting for this.

    Asmodee has been on a *Throw Money* kick for the last couple years now.

    They "merged" with Fantasy Flight a while back (2014?), but the writing was pretty much on the wall. FF was only kept around until Asmodee had a handle on their properties. Then, *snip!* out goes the middleman.

  4. How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Settlers is still very popular, isn't it? How'd they fold? Must have been major business mistakes. Expansion without contraction.

    1. Re: How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They sold off the US distribution rights to Catan last year.

  5. Re:Problem: not free by Chas · · Score: 2

    Basically the game itself IS free.

    What you're paying for are just some cheaply produced pieces to play with.

    Or you could make your own.

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  6. Re:Problem: not free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or you could make your own.

    Saving between $2-$5, less the cost of cardboard and stuff. Or you could make your own.

  7. Hasbro can has Ravensburger? by tepples · · Score: 1

    They aren't really competing with the likes of Asmodee, Hans im Glück, Pegasus, Ravensburger, Kosmos, etc.

    Hasbro is the American publisher of the Ravensburger game Memory.

  8. They got theirs, time to fly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the part of private companies that really bothers me. After enjoying protection of copyright and various other social constructs, they have now gotten all they wanted from our society.

    After using our exclusivity protections to help drive out other competitors, they have no onus whatsoever to continue actually operating and providing the public the very goods they prevented others from providing using the Public's Goodwill.

    I think they should be required to operate proportionally as long as the protections they've received otherwise their property should be devoid of copyright protection and free for public consumption due to a violation of their construct. I would even call it a violation of copyright just in reverse.

    1. Re:They got theirs, time to fly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your argument makes no sense in general, but especially not in the board game industry.

      Mayfair selling out to Asmodee does not remove any products from the marketplace. Copyright is specifically the thing that allows this to happen. If Asmodee sells something instead of Mayfair selling the same thing, it doesn't hurt consumers.

      In the hobby board game industry there are somewhere around 4000-6000 new games published each year. The number has skyrocketed with Kickstarter. Maybe 1%-2% of these games are "good" with another 10% being "okay". The vast majority of the games will be manufactured in one print run and then never again. In some cases they sell out before the print run is complete. In other cases hundreds or thousands of the games may sit in warehouses until it becomes cheaper to just destroy them instead of paying the storage costs.

  9. Driven by an investment group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Asmodee was bought by the European investment company Eurazeo in January 2014. Since then Asmodee has been buying up all of the most profitable hobby board game properties that were not already owned by Mattel and Hasbro. It seems that they are targeting any game they believe has the possibility of transitioning from the hobbyist/enthusiast market to the broader consumer market (Target, Walmart, Toy-R-Us, etc.).

    The hobby board game industry is tiny compared to the video game industry, but it has been growing at a double-digit rate for at least the last 5-10 years. Asmodee wants to acquire the next "Monopoly" game before it makes the jump into the big consumer market.

    Asmodee caused a lot of controversy in 2016 or 2017 when they instituted a "minimum advertised price" policy for their games. They said that it was to protect brick-and-mortar stores from predatory pricing by online sellers, but many in the hobby believed it was just a big cash grab by the company.

  10. Very poorly managed by DogDude · · Score: 0

    There's something very wrong if a company can't make money selling Settlers of Cataan. That alone, is a wildly popular game, retailing for $50, with about $5 worth of materials in it. I can only imagine how much they could have made off all of those other games, as well, if they were run properly.

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  11. Re:Very poorly managed (or not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mayfair sold Catan to Asmodee in January 2016.

    If you read stories from other sources you might learn that the owner of Mayfair wanted to retire. Since he had already done a deal with Asmodee for Catan it makes sense that he approached them when he wanted to sell the rest of the company.

    There's no need to speculate that Mayfair was poorly managed.

  12. Re:Very poorly managed (or not) by DogDude · · Score: 1

    Oh, that makes sense.

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  13. Marketing by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    It must have been their marketing strategy. I have never heard of Mayfair Games, and have never played any of their games.

    1. Re:Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Then you aren't familiar with modern board games at all. Settlers Of Catan has been omnipresent in that industry for at least 15 years.144chan

    2. Re:Marketing by CronoCloud · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm taking your nerd card.

      Didn't you ever play D&D and other tabletop RPG's? Didn't you read the various tabletop RPG magazines? Mayfair ads were common in them.

      They did the DC Roleplaying game for goodness sake! They were even one of the many publishers of Cosmic Encounter. Their version supports 10 players.

    3. Re:Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It must have been their marketing strategy. I have never heard of Mayfair Games, and have never played any of their games.

      Bad supposition. If you haven't heard of them or any of their games (Agricola, Caverna, Le Havre, Settlers of Catan, and about 100 other less known games) then you are probably not in the group they were targeting. There are hundreds of companies publishing modern board games, as opposed to only a few publishing the games from the 1970s and before. How many can you name?

      The board game industry is not like the toy or video game industries, and its marketing is also very different.

    4. Re: Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it is published by different companies in different countries. Outside North America few people will know the name.

    5. Re: Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have about 200 board games. Not a single one is from Mayfair...

    6. Re:Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ads were not common in D&D books. They were common in role playing magazines, of which most D&D nerds I know didn't read.

      I have friends that I'm sure know this company as they are into board games. Hell I *play* the games with them a few times a year. And I didn't know this company.

      I knew the game Settlers of Catan or whatever but that's all and I'm sure i've seen this companies logos many times over the years at said friends house...but board games aren't my fetish. so i don't pay attention...that said, I'm sure they're a great company.

    7. Re:Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agricola isn't mayfair.

  14. Re:Horrible news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You jerking only at half mast?

  15. Re:Who has WOOD for my SHEEP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BeauHD prefers the tight anus of a little boy.

  16. Mayfair hasn't been the Catan publisher since 2016 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Summary is wrong.

    As TFA says: "In 2015, Mayfair Games refreshed Settlers of Catan with a new, fifth-edition release, simply called Catan. The following year, it sold the North American license for the franchise to Asmodee North America."

    And links to this article from from Jan 7, 2016:

    https://www.polygon.com/2016/1/7/10729416/the-island-of-catan-is-under-new-ownership

    "The island of Catan is under new ownership
    One of North America's most popular board games changes hands"

    Mayfair Games has not been the English-language publisher of the Settlers of Catan since 2016.

    So they sold the licence off to their biggest franchise, and couldn't sustain their business without it.

    BTW: I have Sheep, I need Wood:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LboidvGP7XQ

  17. Bored Games are going the way of buggy whip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was a time bored games made sense, video games were either non existent or not quite par. Today that is not the case and in fact are now relics of an time long past. Today FPS have taken over and even the RPGs are finally shedding themselves from the bored game past. Mayfair is just one of many bored game manufacturers that is closing, soon all will discontinue stupid ass bored games.

    1. Re: Bored Games are going the way of buggy whip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out Billy No Mates here.

  18. Re:Very poorly managed (or not) by rtb61 · · Score: 1

    There is of course the big management hassle of digitising leading boardgames, to increase market share, even shifting them to the mobile market. Not as easy as it sounds, lots of usability and networking issues to solve and creating hard copy board games and digital board games at the same time is more complicated. Realistically they could even sell you a digital file which you with a printer and even a 3d printer with the right materials, make your copy. On the fly gaming network with mobile devices for playing digitised boardgames could be quite the thing with the right games. Board games are much better for casual gaming, against other players or against the device or mixes there of.

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  19. Wow! by Ferretman · · Score: 1

    So MANY clever and well done games too!

    A sad time indeed.

    Ferret

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