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The Swype Smartphone Keyboard Is Dead

XDA Developers is reporting that one of the pioneers in swipe-gestures in mobile keyboard apps, Swype, is dead. Swype's owner, Nuance Communications, has confirmed that they are discontinuing Swype for Android and iOS. From the report: In a post made on Reddit earlier today, a user claims that they reached out to Nuance support with an issue and received the following message: "However, we are sad to announce that Swype+Dragon for Android has faced end of development. Here is a statement from Swype Product Team: 'Nuance will no longer be updating the Swype+Dragon keyboard for Android. We're sorry to leave the direct-to-consumer keyboard business, but this change is necessary to allow us to concentrate on developing our AI solutions for sale directly to businesses.' We hope you enjoyed using Swype, we sure enjoyed working with the Swype community."

Curious, we went looking online and discovered a Zendesk article from Nuance that announced the iOS version of the app would be discontinued as well. In order to confirm this, we also reached out to Nuance PR and they confirmed that development of Swype+Dragon for Android has indeed been discontinued.

95 comments

  1. Swiftkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Swiftkey has a better keyboard anyways.

    1. Re:Swiftkey by Excelcia · · Score: 2

      Swiftkey has better swiping recognition, but Swype has those awesome clipboard shortcuts. Basically ^A, ^C, ^X, ^V for select all, copy, cut, and paste. Have you ever been typing and get a text and need to respond to it before continuing what you're doing? A quit ^A, ^X, type your new text, send, then ^V to paste the old text and send. It's amazingly convenient. Trying to use clipboard functions without that is frustrating.

    2. Re:Swiftkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can fully agree with you on the subject of clipboard stuff, but SwiftKey's better swiping, better word prediction, and better tap-typing keeps me from switching. I tried to switch over to Swype and Google's keyboard last year when SwiftKey's updates were causing input lag (which is never ever ok), but they fixed it before I grew to like the other keyboards.

      I'm not loyal to SwiftKey. If a keyboard comes along that has better typing/swiping then I'll gladly switch, especially if it has better clipboard shortcuts.

    3. Re:Swiftkey by postglock · · Score: 1

      This was a while ago, but I couldn't use Swiftkey because it left trailing spaces after writing, and that irked my OCD. I'm not sure if they ever fixed that.

    4. Re:Swiftkey by Excelcia · · Score: 1

      I remember that behaviour. It irked me too since it meant if it got the word wrong that you had to manually cursor back or tap on the wrong word before you could select a different one. I just checked and it's different now. Normally the cursor is left directly after the last word you type. It does leave a space, interestingly, if you correct a word, when it erases and rewrites the word it then leaves a space. IF you have to correct the final word in a sentence then you'll need to backspace to put in a period, otherwise it should be ok. I'm giving it another shot.

    5. Re: Swiftkey by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2

      I have switched from Swiftkey to Swype because Swiftkey was slow even on a reasonably modern hardware (Xperia Z5) and had worse multilanguage support.

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    6. Re:Swiftkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had the same complaint. I downgraded to an older version for a month or so, then they released an update that added an option to make spaces work normally. It's still stupid by default, but you can check a box to restore sanity to its behavior.

    7. Re:Swiftkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Swiftkey is spyware freemium garbage.

      Swype is far better. I've been using it for years and never had a problem with it. It doesn't even matter if they aren't developing it any more, because it works fine as is.

      Something too many children don't realise is that it is possible for software to be complete. Software does not require perpetual updates if it's written properly.

    8. Re: Swiftkey by JThundley · · Score: 1

      Did you switch to anything good? I love Swiftkey, but I hate the fact that I'm now using Microsoft software on my phone. I want to jump ship before they start making changes in their interest. My friend recommended the Google gboard, but that almost seems like swapping one evil for another. Is there a Freer Android keyboard that has good predictions like Swiftkey?

  2. Proprietary software is not sustainable by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Proprietary software is not sustainable, because it's shut down for simple reasons like "it doesn't fit our business direction any longer" or "it's not making money" that would be irrelevant to an Open Source project.

    Unfortunately it could be difficult to persuade Nuance to Open Source this, as they're concerned with holding their intellectual property close and probably would not want to take the expense to separate out Dragon and anything else they want to keep. And they probably don't want to have their patent claims practiced in Open Source.

    The bottom line here is that functions not unlike their swiping keyboard are built into other keyboards, including Google's, and there is Open Source speech recognition now, so maybe nobody needs this. But if enough people do, it would make a good Open Source project.

    1. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by shadowknot · · Score: 2

      I was wondering if the giveaway from their statement is "We're sorry to leave the direct-to-consumer keyboard business". I'm wondering if that means they're going to be licensing the technology to either OS developers or other keyboard producers. I'm not sure how that business model would work but your conclusion stands nonetheless, we likely won't see the technology being open sourced.

    2. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm wondering if that means they're going to be licensing the technology to either OS developers or other keyboard producers.

      Stop wondering and just keep reading: "this change is necessary to allow us to concentrate on developing our AI solutions for sale directly to businesses." (Emphasis mine)

      tl;dr: Yes, that's exactly what they're doing.

    3. Re: Proprietary software is not sustainable by jecowa · · Score: 2

      One of my favorite graphics editors (Fireworks) was discontinued a few years ago. Open-source is something I'm looking for in my next editor so I don't have to worry about it being discontinued.

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    4. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However, I liked its japanese input, and how I can switch languages with a long press of the spacebar.
      I haven't seen that in other keyboards.

    5. Re: Proprietary software is not sustainable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Simply having the source code available is not the same as a project being sustainable. Sustainability is a factor of usage, leadership, code quality, continued development, and the ability to potentially continue a project after original developers have abandoned it. Open source may simplify some of the preceding elements, but it's no guarantee of sustainability.

    6. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Proprietary software is not sustainable, because it's shut down for simple reasons like "it doesn't fit our business direction any longer" or "it's not making money" that would be irrelevant to an Open Source project.

      You're right. Open Source Projects just get abandoned.

      And Bruce, I don't know why I often find myself on the opposite side of an issue with you; I actually am in awe of your talent, knowledge and persistence-of-vision...

      But that doesn't stop me from poking the bear now and again! Pay it no mind, please!

    7. Re: Proprietary software is not sustainable by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      One of my favorite graphics editors (Fireworks) was discontinued a few years ago. Open-source is something I'm looking for in my next editor so I don't have to worry about it being discontinued.

      ...or abandoned?

      Honestly, what is the percentage of F/OSS Projects that simply die on the vine? It feels like it's pretty high.

    8. Re: Proprietary software is not sustainable by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Simply having the source code available is not the same as a project being sustainable. Sustainability is a factor of usage, leadership, code quality, continued development, and the ability to potentially continue a project after original developers have abandoned it. Open source may simplify some of the preceding elements, but it's no guarantee of sustainability.

      Exactly.

    9. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Which is why if I am going to invest serious time in learning an application I use an OSS version even if it is more clunky, at least you know your investment in time won't be made worthless.

      I used this swype on my phone - it was ok. Now I know it won't be on my next phone. What a crappy consumer society we have become.

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    10. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can take up an Open Source project that's been abandoned. You can even cut and paste from the useful stuff. You can't get at a proprietary one that's locked up, or more likely bitrotted.

    11. Re: Proprietary software is not sustainable by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 0

      It's evolution when an Open Source project dies. That is how we filter the good ones from the ones nobody else wants to keep maintaining. But the source code is still there for anyone who wants to continue with it.

    12. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by Jarwulf · · Score: 1

      Because we all know Joe Schlomoe the grocery store assistant manager likes nothing more than to fire up emacs and start uploading commits of his favorite discontinued database program. Look I'm not against a little necessary elbow grease but this extreme diy by default attitude permeates the entire linux ecosystem from support to OS and they wonder why linux can't get a leg in anywhere without a big corporation slapping a fat layer of frosting on it.

    13. Re: Proprietary software is not sustainable by UnsignedInt32 · · Score: 1

      Google's Gboard can now do that if you like that feature.

    14. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      They always have done this. The produce is called XT9. They've been in that business for 15ish years.

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    15. Re: Proprietary software is not sustainable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is the theoretical possibility of continuing an open source project, but whether it is practicable depends on code quality and documentation.

    16. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      You're right. Open Source Projects just get abandoned.

      Out of curiosity, are there any open source projects that immediately come to mind as having been abandoned despite being an invaluable tool?

    17. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      You're right. Open Source Projects just get abandoned.

      Out of curiosity, are there any open source projects that immediately come to mind as having been abandoned despite being an invaluable tool?

      No. Because I immediately forgot about them, once I found they had been abandoned.

      That isn't nearly as snarky as it sounds. What I mean is, I would read about some wonderful Open Source Project that was of interest, and then, when I went to github or wherever to see if there was a download, or if there was recent activity (within the past year or so), all I would find are a bunch of "open" bug reports, some years old, and the last "commit" or update being so far back there was simply no hope for someone not able to pick up the Source and simply "run with it" themselves (I am an embedded Developer; but don't really have any experience writing a big, modern Application).

      So I just close the browser Tab and forget about it. Sorry. Don't keep a log. Do you?

    18. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And open source software in many cases is just a no-go. For instance there is absolutely no open source replacement for Swype.

    19. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      Sorry. Don't keep a log. Do you?

      Nope. That's why I was asking the question. Like you, I've come across plenty of now un-remembered abandoned open source projects that looked like they would be pretty cool, but most of them appeared to have been abandoned before they were "finished" i.e. they never got the the point of being widely used.

      And yes, as an embedded developer myself I have that same trouble with large modern applications. I once tried to download and build a large project from source just for the sake of curiosity. 4 hours later I was still running into weird dependency issues and getting compile errors that weren't making any sense.

    20. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Sorry. Don't keep a log. Do you?

      Nope. That's why I was asking the question. Like you, I've come across plenty of now un-remembered abandoned open source projects that looked like they would be pretty cool, but most of them appeared to have been abandoned before they were "finished" i.e. they never got the the point of being widely used.

      And yes, as an embedded developer myself I have that same trouble with large modern applications. I once tried to download and build a large project from source just for the sake of curiosity. 4 hours later I was still running into weird dependency issues and getting compile errors that weren't making any sense.

      Yup! I feel ya on both points!!!

      It's like C++. I probably shouldn't admit this on Slashdot, but I have a mental-block against learning that language. I know about 20 different Assembly Languages from 6502 to ARMv7 TDMI, and have written probably a hundred thousand lines or so in Assembly, all told, and can write in C quite fluently, and even FORTH to some extent; but EVERY time I pick up my C++ book, I get a few chapters into it and just want to SCREAM "Are we EVER going to get to "Hello, World?!?!?" It's just got SOOOO much cruft in it, that I can't see ANYONE wanting to write stuff in it. (Sorry if you live/breathe C++. I am in awe).

      Sorry to be so snarky previously. A day's worth of dealing with annoying little trolls on Slashdot will do that EVERY time!!!

    21. Re:Proprietary software is not sustainable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last time I looked at other keyboards with swyping function, they didn't seem to work as well as Swype did, or perhaps just not to my preference. Although, it has been a while since I last looked. But to be honest, if I can still download it, it isn't a big deal, I don't really need new features from it.

  3. Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by Excelcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe they couldn't find an under-the-table market for all the tracking data they had. Swype is notorious for activating your GPS and calling home with it, ostensibly to determine if it should load "regional words" into the dictionary, however the frequency it did it was staggeringly more often than required for the stated reason. It was obvious they were doing something with that data, because they switched from a pay-for-the-app to a free app where you just paid for the keyboard skins. No one is shelling out real money for a keyboard skin, so it's pretty clear their funding was from elsewhere.

    1. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Maybe they couldn't find an under-the-table market for all the tracking data they had. Swype is notorious for activating your GPS and calling home with it, ostensibly to determine if it should load "regional words" into the dictionary, however the frequency it did it was staggeringly more often than required for the stated reason. It was obvious they were doing something with that data, because they switched from a pay-for-the-app to a free app where you just paid for the keyboard skins. No one is shelling out real money for a keyboard skin, so it's pretty clear their funding was from elsewhere.

      I don't know about Android; but on iOS it would have to ASK first. And I don't know about anyone else; but a KEYBOARD APP that asks to use "Location Services" (what it is called on iOS) would get UNINSTALLED, PRONTO!!!

      Maybe it's Good Riddance, afterall...

    2. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by tepples · · Score: 1

      a KEYBOARD APP that asks to use "Location Services" (what it is called on iOS) would get UNINSTALLED, PRONTO!!!

      Are you trying to imply that a keyboard that automatically adds the correct spelling of nearby landmarks to its dictionary is inferior to one without this feature? Or should the keyboard instead require each user to manually choose the center of the landmark search area on a map?

    3. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      a KEYBOARD APP that asks to use "Location Services" (what it is called on iOS) would get UNINSTALLED, PRONTO!!!

      Are you trying to imply that a keyboard that automatically adds the correct spelling of nearby landmarks to its dictionary is inferior to one without this feature? Or should the keyboard instead require each user to manually choose the center of the landmark search area on a map?

      Nice try.

    4. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by tepples · · Score: 1

      To which option did you intend "Nice try." to refer?

      A. No support for spelling of nearby landmarks
      B. Spelling of nearby landmarks only for a location chosen by the user using a map control
      C. Other (fill in the blank)

    5. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      C. Why the fuck do I even need or want that functionality in a keyboard

    6. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      C. Nice try to attempt to obsfucate the REAL reason that Swype (or any keyboard) would need "Location Services"; to wit: To transmit the User's LOCATION back to some unwanted server for datamining purposes.

      But you already knew that...

    7. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by tepples · · Score: 1

      So that autocorrect doesn't mangle the messages that you send to someone about where you are.

    8. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      Or I could just.. you know... add the word to the dictionary myself the first time it tries to mangle it. Problem solved and I didn't even have to share my location info with a company trying to harvest my data.

    9. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, that may work for you. What about everyone else? Surely it automatically adding those words is convenient?

    10. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by tepples · · Score: 1

      Or I could just.. you know... add the word to the dictionary myself the first time it tries to mangle it.

      That works if and only if two things are true: 1. you notice that autocorrect has mangled a given place name, and 2. you are certain of the correct spelling of each place name that you mention. Will both of these be true for the majority of users other than dpidcoe?

    11. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      That works if and only if two things are true: 1. you notice that autocorrect has mangled a given place name, and 2. you are certain of the correct spelling of each place name that you mention. Will both of these be true for the majority of users other than dpidcoe?

      To answer that, I'll just quote myself from two posts ago and add some emphasis:

      C. Why the fuck do I even need or want that functionality in a keyboard

      Thanks for playing.

    12. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by tepples · · Score: 1

      You do not. The majority do.

    13. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      Well gosh, how did they ever cope with sending texts about landmarks they were visiting before GPS and keyboard apps intent on collecting their data to sell to 3rd parties?

    14. Re:Maybe the coiuldn't fidn a market... by tepples · · Score: 1

      I presume that "before GPS and keyboard apps intent on collecting their data to sell to 3rd parties," it was more socially acceptable for users of SMS to misspell things, which allowed them to set autocorrect to a less aggressive level.

  4. Maybe their market dried up... by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2

    The government stopped allowing people to use personal devices on classified military bases any longer, after they saw the maps those things were generating. And an entire market dried up!

    1. Re:Maybe their market dried up... by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      The government stopped allowing people to use personal devices on classified military bases any longer, after they saw the maps those things were generating. And an entire market dried up!

      Hmmm. That WAS just a couple of months ago, wasn't it?

      Coincidence?

  5. What a great adventure for The FOSS Community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a great adventure for The FOSS Community

  6. I would be sad by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    Since I paid for Swype years many years ago but I stopped using it over a year ago as GBoard is now a better keyboard.

    It started to get annoying since they ashed Dragon with it. I don't want to talk to my phone. I don't want my phone to record sound when I accidentally touch a button I can't remove and send it to their servers. They made it impossible to get rid of the feature and it ended up wasting space on the keyboard.

    1. Re:I would be sad by fred6666 · · Score: 2

      I agree about Dragon. But if I wanted to talk to my phone, I'd use the built-in (Google) implementation. Samsung probably has one too. If I wanted a third one, I surely wouldn't want it to be built-in to my keyboard.

      I also stopped using swype because it has gone downwards. Not only because of Dragon, but because its auto correct got worse with time.

    2. Re:I would be sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GBoard is now a better keyboard.

      you do realize that is literally a keylogger that is sending everything you enter to google
      you realize that, right

    3. Re:I would be sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you do realize that is literally a keylogger that is sending everything you enter to google
      you realize that, right

      How the hell do you expect google to perform a search if the information doesn't get sent to the server? Dumbass.

    4. Re:I would be sad by tepples · · Score: 1

      By disabling all features of the keyboard that require Search when not using the Google App.

    5. Re:I would be sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since I paid for Swype years many years ago but I stopped using it over a year ago as GBoard is now a better keyboard.

      It started to get annoying since they ashed Dragon with it. I don't want to talk to my phone. I don't want my phone to record sound when I accidentally touch a button I can't remove and send it to their servers. They made it impossible to get rid of the feature and it ended up wasting space on the keyboard.

      You don't want your phone to record sound... and yet you use an android phone, who records everything(even when Ok Google is supposedly turned off)..

  7. Re:DOA on inception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why is the first comment on this site always a stupid ass-troll?

  8. RIP Swype. We hardly knew ye... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Swype may have been the first application that I didn't know I needed. It impressed me more than anything else on my first smart phone and I still use it.

    I'm not an expert, but I think they're throwing the baby out with the bath water considering the size of their user base. I would be very shocked if Swype could not generate enough revenue to support its own development.

    1. Re:RIP Swype. We hardly knew ye... by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

      I think Swype's problem is that the Android built-in keyboard now has their 'killer feature' which was to be able to swipe between the keys to type.

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  9. Why is this a story? by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 0

    Is it just me that's going wtf!?

    1. Re: Why is this a story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep

  10. siri just makes them too much money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they bought us out @ equitrac at 3x valuation to fire everyone connected to the old products that they never could best. It was stupid and emotional, but Nuance has made so much money on the back of Apple via the IBM voice patents (Dragon dictate) that they are the violent bully with a pocket full of cash.

    And now they are having to re-focus as their core business is devastated, they wasted so much money on absolutely pointless things, and have been neglecting their accidental empire.

    I've often wondered how long it'll take for either Apple to do their own thing, or someone to basically 'ogg' their 'mp3'.

    1. Re:siri just makes them too much money by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      they bought us out @ equitrac at 3x valuation to fire everyone connected to the old products that they never could best. It was stupid and emotional, but Nuance has made so much money on the back of Apple via the IBM voice patents (Dragon dictate) that they are the violent bully with a pocket full of cash.

      And now they are having to re-focus as their core business is devastated, they wasted so much money on absolutely pointless things, and have been neglecting their accidental empire.

      I've often wondered how long it'll take for either Apple to do their own thing, or someone to basically 'ogg' their 'mp3'.

      Apple built "Dictation" into macOS (and I think iOS, too) a few years ago (like five), and they even made it so you could d/l the libraries and keep the whole speech-recognition thing local. And their algorithms are speaker-independent and require no training.

      So, in that regard, Apple "Did their own thing" a bit ago...

  11. Hashtag For Whatever Reason, LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hashtag Journalism Fail (Clue: real journalists don't write 'for whatever reason', they find somebody and ask a relevant question to get a quote)

    While Swype has a patent for "System and method for continuous stroke word-based text input," for whatever reason that wasn't enough to stop everyone on Earth from copying Swype's gesture typing.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/02/swype-keyboard-it-lived-everyone-copied-it-and-now-its-dead/

    1. Re:Hashtag For Whatever Reason, LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fyi, the reason I care about this story is that AFAICT LineageOS 14.1 does not include a swype style keyboard. My current workaround is to copy a single file from the opengapps archive after every LineageOS weekly update. Seems weird, but yeah, nice feature.

  12. Re:DOA on inception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a stupid ass-troll?

    Obligatory XKCD

  13. Used it for years, but switched away by Fencepost · · Score: 1

    I used Swype for years (IIRC Samsung licensed it for the Galaxy S/Vibrant), but switched over to Swiftkey years ago primarily due to better autocompletion options.

    I was also annoyed when they switched over to Dragon, though these days I might be more sad that for voice recognition on Android your choices now seem to be down to A) Google and B) Google.

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  14. Is There An Echo In Here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is There An Echo In Here?

  15. Word Flow by the_B0fh · · Score: 1

    Microsoft came out with Word Flow. It has a couple of minor issues, but man, I loved Word Flow. I hate that I can't install it on my new phone because Microsoft decided to kill it.

    All these 3rd party keyboards... I wonder which one will die off next.

  16. Sorry to see it go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Swype was the only gesture word based keyboard which did not require you to approve it sending your input out over the internet. It was the only one you could use locally without accepting the dialog for accessing your phone.

    1. Re:Sorry to see it go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am referring to "Allow Full Access".
      Swiftkey requires it as do others.
      Swype did not, and it worked fine.

  17. Ex swype user here,.. by AbRASiON · · Score: 3, Interesting

    People ditched it because it slowly got worse and worse.

    The first few revisions seemed to identify my swipes pretty well, then they slowly got worse

    Also one of the absolute KEY features (tricks?) is to delete suggestions you'll never use. I slowly but surely remove idiotic suggestions for words I never used, making it more and more accurate.
    Then, every couple of updates, somehow the dictionary would be updated and all my damn deletions would be re added.
    THAT was what finally got me off it. If I could just have a swype style keyboard which remembered my poor vocabulary, it would be vastly more accurate.

    1. Re:Ex swype user here,.. by caseih · · Score: 1

      Sure wish gboard would let me remove words from the dictionary. There is a way to remove suggestions from the list of alternate words, but if the word that it chose is a word I want to remove I can't see any way to do it. I'd sure like to know how, if there's a way!

    2. Re:Ex swype user here,.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THIS. I don't understand why all of these obscure words show up in these dictionaries. Give me a dictionary with the thousand most used words and allow me to easily add/remove words.

    3. Re:Ex swype user here,.. by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      You could not have said it better, that's what I switched to and it pissed me off, no end.

    4. Re:Ex swype user here,.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here are some works I use all the time but for some reason phone keyboards never have them in their dictionaries:
      fuck, shit, cunt

      That is all.

    5. Re:Ex swype user here,.. by crywolf · · Score: 1

      Long hold on the suggested word doesn't offer you an option to remove it?

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    6. Re:Ex swype user here,.. by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      You should install Swype! It's no longer being updated, so it won't re-add your deletions, and contrary to what the title says, it's still available in the play store.

    7. Re:Ex swype user here,.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also one of the absolute KEY features

      Yeah, keyboards ought to have keyfeatures :)

    8. Re:Ex swype user here,.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you only use a thousand word, then you have a pretty fucking poor vocabulary. "Thousand" isn't even in the top thousand most used words.

      It is actually pretty rare that I go "wow, that word it suggested is obscure", in fact I never do that. I want it to know the "obscure" words I use without me having to teach it like I'd have to teach a 5 year old.

      And see this comic for an example of something written using only the thousand most used words. It should give you an idea of how restrictive it only knowing 1000 words would be.

    9. Re:Ex swype user here,.. by caseih · · Score: 1

      A week late here, but no you didn't quite understand what I was getting at. Sure you can remove suggestions like you say, but not if the word that you want to remove was the word it chose. That's because the word it chose is not listed in the list of 3 suggestions. It's placed in the actual input field. And I have no idea how to remove that one from the suggestions.

  18. Swype doesn't have to be gone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Offer Nuance $200M for it, then it can be yours and yours alone.

  19. Oh, crap. by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

    Now I've got to go find some other swype-clone. I tried several way back when, and Swype was clearly superior. The others were just ... horrible.

    I hope at least one of them has improved since then.

  20. Re:Used it for years, but switched away - MS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um it looks like Swift key is a Microsoft product!

    https://support.swiftkey.com/hc/en-us/articles/201457632-How-do-I-install-SwiftKey-Keyboard-for-Android-
    References their privacy policy which links you to:

    https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement

  21. Translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We found the Shiny Object Du Jour and think we may have the next Aviato.

  22. Once necessary, now what's the point by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    Swype was revolutionary. ... And then it became a standard feature of Google's own keyboard. What once was the first app to install on Android, very quickly became a completely pointless one. I'm not surprised. Gboard is a far better keyboard, especially if you have to type multiple languages.

  23. Re: Used it for years, but switched away - MS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah. It is now. Like with Skype they bought it. Now only time will tell whether they turn it into barely usable garbage like they did Skype.

  24. Mining data by reanjr · · Score: 1

    Did they just build a keyboard to mine text data to build an AI? If so, that's amazing.

    1. Re:Mining data by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      Don't give them that much foresight.

      Swype started out pretty early - its original release was for Windows Mobile 6.5. Their original business model was to charge OEMs to add it to the stock firmware as an option; prior to Google and Samsung shipping with swipe-based keyboards, handsets shipped with them or didn't; it wasn't available in the Android Market and only later was released as a public beta. Nuance later bought them out and added Dragon Dictation and such.

      That being said, their use of telemetry is well-known - it made me super happy to have Xprivacy so the keyboard was never able to access the internet, and to be fair, they did seem to add trending words as they became progressively more popular (and suggested them less as popularity waned). Few doubt they have amassed a pretty impressive word-to-usage database, as well as word pairs - I was pleasantly surprised that they suggest "Effect" after the word "Mass". That data is certainly useful as a starting point for a number of linguistic AI algorithms.

      To use this data as a starting point for AI? Seems reasonable. To assume that a startup in 2008 planned it all out to create an AI ("but first we need data"), or that Nuance bought it for reasons other than "because they wanted to have a mobile presence", is giving them far too much credit.

  25. Yes by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    Yes

  26. And no on noticed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since similar swype functionality is built into gboard and several other alternate keyboards.

  27. So i guess it's.. by drewsup · · Score: 1

    Swyper, no more swyping!
    Oh Jesus, watched way too much Dora with my kids ðY

  28. Re:DOA on inception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why-do people have such a hard-time under-standing how to use-hyphens?

  29. Re:Used it for years, but switched away - MS by Fencepost · · Score: 1

    I have somewhat higher hopes for Microsoft as a product owner than for Nuance - I'm not sure I've ever really seen much of anything positive about Nuance from a business standpoint.

    I've seen regular improvements in Swiftkey over time, including since MS bought them. The most recent one that I noticed was that now when you have something in the clipboard and click into a text field, until you type something the "autofill" button is the contents of the clipboard. I'm still getting used to using that instead of my old long-hold, Paste behavior but it's a nice touch.

    --
    fencepost
    just a little off
  30. I'm sad, but not that sad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Swype on ios used to be amazing, but then they made some update a while back and it's kinda sucked ever since. Really bizarre autocorrects, constantly mis-selecting the correct word, and most annoyingly, not actually remembering what i've previously swyped. So, sad to see it go, but it sucked anyway, so good riddance. I kept using it because I like the layout, and I kept hoping that they would update it.