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Amazon Buys Smart Doorbell Maker Ring For a Reported $1 Billion (cnbc.com)

hyperclocker shares a report from CNBC: Amazon is buying smart doorbell maker Ring, a deal that will allow the company to expand its home security and in-house delivery services. In an email statement to CNBC, Ring's spokesperson confirmed the deal, saying: "We'll be able to achieve even more by partnering with an inventive, customer-centric company like Amazon. We look forward to being a part of the Amazon team as we work toward our vision for safer neighborhoods." Amazon is expected to keep Ring as an independent business, much like it has with its other acquisitions, like Zappos and Twitch, according to GeekWire, which earlier reported details of the deal. Financial details of the move were not disclosed, but Reuters reported it could be worth more than $1 billion, making it one of the largest acquisitions in Amazon's history.

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  1. Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many more of these worthless investments are large firms going to make?

    1. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How many more of these worthless investments are large firms going to make?

      Jeff is the richest person in the world. Evidence suggests that you are not smarter than he is.

    2. Re: Propping up the unicorn system by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      "When all you have is a Hammer, every problem looks like a nail." Apparently, all Bezos has is money...

    3. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because something is a horrible, poorly conceived idea that only an idiot would buy does not mean it won't be profitable. Just because you think this is a bad idea, and just because it actually is a dumb idea that solves a problem in an overly complicated and questionably secure manner, does not imply it is a poor financial investment. Keep in mind, we live in a world where people are lining up to buy refrigerators capable of committing identity fraud.

    4. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by olsmeister · · Score: 1

      Alexa, show me who is at the door. Do I need to say more?

    5. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by rmdingler · · Score: 2

      How many more of these worthless investments are large firms going to make?

      Jeff is the richest person in the world. Evidence suggests that you are not smarter than he is.

      This. Despite motivation theories to the contrary, Jeff is just buying MacKenzie a a unique Ring to make up for a poor Valentine's Day showing.

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      Ernest Hemingway

    6. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when did your material wealth equate to smartness? Suck Bezos’ cock much?

    7. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

      a horrible, poorly conceived idea that only an idiot would buy

      Idiot here. I have a Ring doorbell. I give it 2 out of 5 stars. The concept is ok, but the implementation is terrible. When someone rings the doorbell, I get a notification on my cell phone along with a snapshot of the visitor. The problem is that there is a latency of about 45 seconds, so by the time I get the notification, the visitor has already given up and left.

      For the few visitors that stick around long enough, I can communicate with them thru my cell phone, which is nice if I am not home, or if I want more info before I open the door. But, again, the implementation is terrible. The speaker in the doorbell is weak and crappy, and there is a huge amount of latency in the audio. It is practically impossible to have a constructive conversation.

      I can't see anything they have that would be worth $1B. The concept is nice, but obvious, so Amazon should be able to roll-their-own implementation. The only rationale that I can see is if Ring has some critical patents that Amazon can either use themselves, or use to block competitors.

    8. Re: Propping up the unicorn system by Type44Q · · Score: 4, Funny

      the visitor has already given up and left

      Unless you had your heart set on a spiritually-refreshing talk with a Jehovah's Witness or the opportunity to buy a magazine subscription, I fail to see the downside.

    9. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't see anything they have that would be worth $1B.

      Never heard of a Ring doorbell until now, but I have to agree with you. Perhaps what they have is a few rediculous patents and some really good lawyers.

    10. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I can't see anything they have that would be worth $1B.

      The main thing would be if they already have a lot of customers.

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    11. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ring has been getting salespeople to go HOA to HOA, drumming up business for their system.
      Most people don't actually use it to pretend to be home, and that's actually incidental to their business model -- they were mainly making money on the annual subscription, in order for people to actually have a record of who was at the door when. Or to have a wireless camera "security" system. (They charge per camera per year, so that's what they made their money on.)

    12. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you're a fucking moron Bill.

    13. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

      Jeff is the richest person in the world. Evidence suggests that you are not smarter than he is.

      Any idiot can make money given sufficient start-up capital. See: Trump's "small loan of a million dollars".

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    14. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Since when did your material wealth equate to smartness?

      There are many types of smartness. The kind the GPP is talking about is judging the worth of business investments. That tends to correlate well with material wealth.

    15. Re: Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps if you weren't in China latency wouldn't be as bad for a US product.

    16. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "People who need doorbells" is a useful market segment worth paying for?

    17. Re: Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having wealth allows you to make business investments, some of which may be good. If enough, even by chance, are good, you become wealthier. Whether those who are wealthy make better business investments than those who are not wealthy, is another matter entirely.

    18. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by MoaDweeb · · Score: 1

      Perhaps all you say is true however at least Shanghai Bill puts a name to his comments.

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    19. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      This is a good enough concept for an airBnB where a visitor has a vested interest in getting in contact with you. But this is Amazon we're talking about. Is frigging hard enough to run to the door full speed before the delivery guy drops you a "didn't see you in the 5 seconds I waited" slip and goes on his way.

      Stupid part is I checked into an airBnB yesterday that had this technology already in the doorbell. And it looks like it was installed in the 80s. Such an old concept with $1bn? I think it's time I invented a round thing to aid rolling. Maybe I'll give the wheel a cool name like "Roll".

    20. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That company system is not worth 1billion even if it worked "in real time".

      IMO these types of acquisitions are more likely just a cloaked merge circus to evade future taxes after trump is out of office A "casual" 1 billion of cash into some off-shore accounts, while the seller has some sweet retirement deal but can't touch said large bonus after d/m/y date. Meanwhile they got an "expense" to report.

    21. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by larryj · · Score: 1

      I agree with your 2/5 rating. My Ring Pro has been a pain in the ass. I had to get rid of my mechanical doorbell chime because the power kit that comes with the Ring just wouldn't work. Now the Ring Chime that I had to buy to replace the mechanical chime isn't responding to motion or doorbell activity. But it works if you test the various sound options in the app.

      That doesn't surprise me as the Ring Pro itself stops working every month or so. It just dies. The fix is to flip the circuit breaker, which brings it back to life until next time. I replaced my transformer with a more powerful one, that has reviews on Amazon stating it works great with the Ring Pro. The app shows the voltage rating as 'Very Good'.

      I will say that I haven't had any packages stolen from my front porch since installing it . My neighbors without a camera at their front door can't say the same. But overall the Ring Pro has been headache after headache. I'm going to check out Nest's offering, which I think is out in March. Maybe Amazon can help, but I think they made a mistake.

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    22. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by magzteel · · Score: 1

      Jeff is the richest person in the world. Evidence suggests that you are not smarter than he is.

      Any idiot can make money given sufficient start-up capital. See: Trump's "small loan of a million dollars".

      Not true. Many lottery winners destroy their lives.

    23. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure how your network it set up, but my experience both with the at-home wifi and remotely by cell is that I connect within 5 seconds.

    24. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by gnick · · Score: 1

      Perhaps what they have is a few rediculous patents and some really good lawyers.

      And an appearance on Shark Tank. No investment there (lucky for Ring after this purchase), but even an appearance gets your product noticed.

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    25. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by gnick · · Score: 1

      I will say that I haven't had any packages stolen from my front porch since installing it . My neighbors without a camera at their front door can't say the same.

      That suggests to me that a visible, imitation camera would have accomplished the same. If you had busted somebody stealing from you, the case would be different, but it sounds like you're just benefiting from having a visible deterrent.

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    26. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, the old "I am richer than you, so I am smarter than you" gem.

      Every post you make confirms you are a douche-nozzle.

    27. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His real name is Shanghai Bill?

      No?

      Then he did not put his name to his comment.

    28. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Evidence suggests you're dimmer than parent since you equate money with intelligence.

    29. Re: Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm so sorry you live in a world where you can't answer your own door because it's infested with salesweasels and proselytizers. Wouldn't it be nice to actually fix that problem instead of having to hide inside your own fucking home.

    30. Re: Propping up the unicorn system by KingMotley · · Score: 1

      Keep telling yourself this, while hiding behind the AC.

    31. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by KingMotley · · Score: 1

      Nest's offering will be $350 and $20 per month if you want to be able to get video or pictures. I like my nest products (Smoke alarms, thermostats), but they are silly expensive. The security cameras are expensive enough that I had to go with another brand because the upfront cost is bad enough but the monthlies are painful.

    32. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same experience here, (with the original transformer powered Ring) the latency is too high so it only records someone walking away, if you don't pay for the cloud recording subscription you won't know who rang the door bel at all. I solved that by adding a $20 cam (YI ANTS) behind the window besides it that records in a loop on microSD, that motion detection works actually perfect, so I get a notice on my watch when someone is at the porch, even before the door bel rings.

      The Ring is not smart. It gets triggered by sound, every time a (garbage) truck or some jerk with a mustang drives by, it will notice "motion", there is no way to disable this. My neighbors on the opposite of the street complained it gets triggered every day by sunlight falling into the lens.

      I like that it can use the existing wires and chime, it also good to be able to add a second chime over Wi-fi. No network issues anymore since I connected it to Eero, running over two years now without interruption.

    33. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Hopefully at least one more.

      (I will keep saying this until I get my billion dollar buyout. Then they can stop.)

    34. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

      I remember seeing that episode and thinking, "that's dumb, why would anybody invest in that security risk?" And my son, the Shark Tank aficionado, said, "I can't believe Robert didn't make a deal!" Kids have a different perspective on these things.

    35. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can change the sensitivity and areas for the motion detection.

    36. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "I have a Ring doorbell. I give it 2 out of 5 stars."

      Ring has been an established brand in Europe for a while. 2 out of 5 stars is being generous. Most of what they sell is "whatever was cheapest in Shenzhen that week"

      "The concept is ok, but the implementation is terrible."

      This, in spades.

      Ring was ok when it was basic overpriced (and fragile) dumb shit. Occasionally there would be a sale of old stock and it would be worthwhile buying.

      The newer "smart" stuff is so terrible that I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole and their 'security' products rate a "Not even with someone else's bargepole" status. Seriously.

    37. Re:Propping up the unicorn system by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "That suggests to me that a visible, imitation camera would have accomplished the same."

      Until people simply start using a baseball cap pulled down over their face - which is what happens regularly around my (visible) UK surveillance cameras.

      Too bad they don't see the low-mounted ones with far-IR LEDs...

      Video doorbells are usually awful pieces of crap and they almost never integrate into a decent DVR system.

  2. Nest 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should have paid attention to Google's mistakes.

    1. Re: Nest 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah. Itâ(TM)s so Amazon can gain access while you are not home to deliver packages

    2. Re: Nest 2.0 by bhcompy · · Score: 1

      Bingo. And fuck off Amazon. I'm not letting you in my house.

    3. Re: Nest 2.0 by javaman235 · · Score: 1

      Why can't the just engineer a smart, climate controlled secure outside box? A better mailbox?

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    4. Re: Nest 2.0 by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

      Why can't the just engineer a smart, climate controlled secure outside box? A better mailbox?

      Great idea. Hopefully it's large enough for a meth-crazed, rabid, bubonic-flea infested wombat. Don't ask; it's a family thing.

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  3. Barrels by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    Scraping the bottom for ideas.

    1. Re:Barrels by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      I know you're not talking about the founders of the Ring video doorbell, who converted the camera and existing wifi technology into a billion dollars...

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    2. Re:Barrels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it sounds like some suit at Amazon has no ideas but knows that he's unlikely to be fired for blowing money on some company that might plausibly claim to have some.

  4. lab126 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess Amazon doesn't have any love/faith in their Lab126's Amazon Cloud Cam creation.. ;^)

    1. Re:lab126 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm...ever hear about taking out a competitor? Ring may disappear.

  5. Ring Shark tank by Dr.rosmarie · · Score: 1

    very cool, i remember seeing them on shark tank a couple years back!

    1. Re:Ring Shark tank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it was about five years ago. only one offer, which the company rejected. but the publicity spiked sales and they got a huge investment from richard branson (yes, the sir richard branson).

    2. Re:Ring Shark tank by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

      2016. I know it feels like 5 years ago...

  6. Amazon will be everywhere by TheZeitgeist · · Score: 1

    What kinda analytics from the smart toilet paper Amazon'll be selling soon (after they buy a smart TP startup named Wipe for $eleventy billion)?

    Ewwww

    1. Re:Amazon will be everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You definitely don't want to be holding round two paper from Wipe.

    2. Re:Amazon will be everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They'll be selling an amazon toilet paper holder soon. It will reorder your TP before you run out and know when to order an extra few rolls when you use more paper than normal after eating that sketchy mexican food at 3am after a night out bender.

    3. Re:Amazon will be everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Smart TP makes more sense than a smart doorbell. 'That appears to be a polyp. You should see a doctor'.

  7. With AMZN's record, not sure by edgedmurasame · · Score: 1

    Amazon hasn't done well with its cloud cameras and key systems. I'd hope that they don't make Ring just as bad.

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    1. Re:With AMZN's record, not sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have details of any problems, or just speculation?

  8. not bad just lacks open/no network connection by johnjones · · Score: 1

    they match with amazon quite nicely, it will be instraesting to see if they can combine with the company they bought before (who actually did smart chips) called blink

    now there is no way that blink/ring/flavour of the month actually add any value beyond easy install

    IF they produced a version that worked OFFLINE (sent the video to a internal server rather than NOT JUST AWS ) THEN they might actually have something but in truth doing that is actually hard...

    pushing things to the "cloud" and letting AWS churn through it is not hard, dont get me wrong thats a good thing to have but its not actually what most people want they want something that works offline and add's features via the services online... some people are happy with that and are early adopters but the devil is in the details and their sales will bottom out in 24 months or so, it would be interesting if they are locking them in performance wise beyond 2/3 years in stock grants

    have fun with the lawyers your going to get eaten by the far eastern vendors unless you work out offline...

    John

    1. Re:not bad just lacks open/no network connection by Known+Nutter · · Score: 1

      Your grammar and phrasing is atrocious, which makes your thoughts difficult to parse.

      You seem smart. Improve.

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  9. Alexa, release the hounds by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

    Now I can kill annoying neighbors no matter where I am

  10. It does make sense. A good fit. by BlueCoder · · Score: 1

    Huge installed base. With their money they could sell it for $50. The number one reason I think they want it is delivery confirmation. Both regular and groceries. It would reduce primarily Fraud and secondarily people stealing from doorsteps. That alone is worth the investment. But I hope their either get rid of the cloud video BS and let you store locally or make it totally free.

    If they expand to security cameras and resell security patrols.... (think plain clothes and plenty of cameras) talk about Big Brother. Huge market. They could track theifs by their cell phones and know when they are entering ares they victimize. They can then send patrols into those areas and or put out bulletins to those already there such as regular police. Since they have no direct idea what a person looks like they can profile with less recrimination as to racial profiling and more as to crime statistically increasing when certain people are around. Amazon could totally dominate the security industry.

    1. Re:It does make sense. A good fit. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Facial recognition of everyone at the home. Voice print too. Great for knowing who is who on the mic later.

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    2. Re:It does make sense. A good fit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These cloud device makers will never get rid of the cloud storage, it's a recurring money maker for them. Pay an insane amount for the hardware, pay 9.99 a month for "cloud storage"

      Just get yourself a real IP camera that can stream RTSP, then use one of many available NVR boxes or software to store your video recordings locally.

      Hell if you want some of the ring functionality wire up an ESP8266 to your doorbell circuit. Have it use some online SMS gateway to send you a txt anytime someone presses your doorbell button. Then with an RTSP player app on your phone you can connect to your home network over VPN and view your camera live with no cloud provider middleman.

    3. Re: It does make sense. A good fit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many people cannot integrate those elements and debug failures.

    4. Re: It does make sense. A good fit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why all these products are cloud storage/processing focused

  11. I guess they didn't go to Jared by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    Would have been a bit cheaper. But seriously, I'm baffled by mergers and acquisitions. It seems like Amazon could have come up with their own device for a lot less money. Further, General Mills just bought out Blue Buffalo pet food for something like $8 billion. You mean to tell me that General Mills couldn't come up with their own "natural" pet food for less money? But the thing that really pisses me off is that in many cases, a company flat out steals somebody else's idea instead of buying them out. What's up with that?

    1. Re:I guess they didn't go to Jared by Woldscum · · Score: 1

      Not buying the dog food recipe. They are buying the Blue Buffalo brand. 100% marketing 0% dog food.

    2. Re:I guess they didn't go to Jared by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

      So developing your own brand costs more than $8 billion? Yeesh.

    3. Re:I guess they didn't go to Jared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > So developing your own brand reputation costs more than $8 billion?

      FTFY

    4. Re:I guess they didn't go to Jared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It might cost less, but then you'll have an $8b of competitor. This way, they get the brand AND the competitor is now a golf buddy. (both companies saved the hassle of fighting out in the market).

  12. Buy n Large one step closer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    B n L Store, drones, delivery and security.

    Next logical step? Build a community around these items. Then cities, then country, then a space ship after it's all ruined. I think I've seen how this one ends.

  13. There goes my investment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grumble grumble something about needing to hack my Ring cameras so I can use them when the service gets discontinued in the near future...

  14. $1B for a Precious purchase. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    Perhaps Bezos thought he was buying the One Ring.

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  15. Re:Alexa, release the kraken by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

    I see your pair of hounds and raise you a giant lutefisk.

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  16. Best Offence is a Strong Defence by BBF_BBF · · Score: 1

    Maybe Amazon is just keeping Ring out of the hands of other companies, it probably doesn't NEED it. But all the patents and the customer base are now under Amazon's umbrella and not a competitors. Think of it as a high tech cockblock.

    I don't have any need for a Ring, but I know a lot of people that think it's a great idea, especially non-technical types that are convinced that it will make their house safe and will gladly pay the recurring monthly fees to access stuff completely contained on a proprietary site.

  17. Ever wonder why Doorbot had to change it's name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was poorly engineered product, and it still is as Ring. The only way this will succeed is if Amazon guts the team, ditches the CEO and does a re-design, using the hardware design talent at Lab126.
    See the other comments, latency is 45 seconds. The product is not designed for the outdoors, and will fail in direct sun and freezing temperatures.
    The critical connection to the user is wi-fi, and it's performance is poor due to RF path loss through exterior walls and structures.

  18. Re: Ever wonder why Doorbot had to change it's nam by rworne · · Score: 1

    The latency is not 45 seconds, it's more like 2-3 seconds. The Mac app is very quick and shows the slowdown isn't in the cloud service.

    The problem is the bloat/slowdown in their iOS offering. Part of the issue was the battery slowdown, where I was getting 40+ second connection times. After a new battery, it is around 20 seconds - still too slow.

    They need to rethink the mobile app and speed it up a bit.

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  19. Whart does it do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would have been great if the article would have mentioned what a smart doorbell actually does...

  20. Doorbells considered evil by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

    Doorbells are like telephones: They enable completely random people to interrupt whatever you are doing whenever they feel like it to deal with their wants. People only put up with these interruption devices because they grew up with this kind of shenanigans as "normal."

    When I bought my current house, the doorbell didn't work.

    Attempting to connect it causes the ringer to go continuously, so there's a good chance its miswired (or the switch is borked). I just (re)disconnected it and vowed to get it fixed when I got the motivation to take the trouble/expense to do so. So basically, when the day came that someone actually came to my door to interact with me positively without trying to get something out of me, and they couldn't have just as well left a message for me to get to later. In other words, I needed to be happy afterwards that I'd interrupted what I was doing to interact with them, and didn't want to miss out on an experience like that again.

    I've now lived in the house for 20 years with no doorbell.

    1. Re:Doorbells considered evil by tsqr · · Score: 1

      You must live in an area loaded with geniuses, if they haven't figured out in 20 years that if no one responds to a doorbell button press, then next thing to do is knock on the door.

    2. Re:Doorbells considered evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or they can't hear the doorbell ring when they press on the doorbell.

    3. Re:Doorbells considered evil by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      We are a family of 5 in a pretty big house (benefit of not living in Silly Valley). The only way anyone is gonna hear a door knock is if they are in the living room and don't have the TV up very loud, or in one of the other downstairs rooms and the kids are all either asleep or out of the house (so its super quiet).

      Our door is solid wood too, so knocking on it hard hurts a bit, and it doesn't resonate much when you do it. Either way, a muted knock is much easier to ignore (on purpose or not) than a loud-ass doorbell. I've known engineers who used to achieve the equivalent with their phones at their desks by stuffing paper inside the phone bell (yes, back in the 90's our phones used to have real physical bells in them). Much easier to ignore that way, and much less disruptive to everyone else.

  21. Convergance by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one that sees a convergence vector here for Amazon. I mean they deliver things to your door. Heck they could even give incentives to Ring with free or discounted shipping. Anyway I think this has more to do with business convergence and a play to own the whole experience. Granted reading about your experience they may need to improve the concept a bit, however one has to think that that will become easier over time, and Amazon's deep coffers could certainly help that. Anyway I see it being built into their delivery system eventually with package notifications etc... It is a way for Amazon to get another foot hold within you home. Heck, I'd expect these things to be networked with Elexa which might also be leveraged for usage. I believe they were also talking about having direct access to homes to drop off packages, this would allow the user to facilitate that.

  22. Getting Deliveries When Not Home, duh by hashish16 · · Score: 1

    Ring is a mediocre device for a consumer, but for Amazon it's perfect for their unattended delivery service. But a kit with a video doorbell, and a smart door lock. When you get a delivery, the deliverer shows a unique QR code (unique to that delivery), the doorbell video authenticates, unlocks the door, package delivered, ensures the door is closed, then locks the door. Yey, reduction in human interaction/intervention for deliveries.

    1. Re:Getting Deliveries When Not Home, duh by q4Fry · · Score: 1

      You should have mod points, but alas I have none to give.

  23. Re: Ever wonder why Doorbot had to change it's nam by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

    My coworker has it. The Samsung phone app is so non-laggy, you can have a conversation without frustration. But maybe he just got lucky.

  24. all Bezos has is money... by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

    so everything looks like a:

    • bank?
    • wallet?
    • hooker?
    • politician?

    Not sure how you intended to finish that one. :)

    1. Re:all Bezos has is money... by q4Fry · · Score: 1

      ...purchase?

      I don't think it was that difficult.