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EU Warns Tech Giants To Remove Terror Content in 1 Hour -- or Else (bloomberg.com)
The European Union issued internet giants an ultimatum to remove illegal online terrorist content within an hour, or risk facing new EU-wide laws. From a report: The European Commission on Thursday issued a set of recommendations for companies and EU nations that apply to all forms of illegal internet material, "from terrorist content, incitement to hatred and violence, child sexual abuse material, counterfeit products and copyright infringement. Considering that terrorist content is most harmful in the first hours of its appearance online, all companies should remove such content within one hour from its referral as a general rule.â The commission last year called upon social media companies, including Facebook, Twitter and Google owner Alphabet, to develop a common set of tools to detect, block and remove terrorist propaganda and hate speech. Thursday's recommendations aim to "further step up" the work already done by governments and push firms to "redouble their efforts to take illegal content off the web more quickly and efficiently."
gee it's lonely being the only slashdot user. Now I know what it feels like to be uid 1 ?
Nullius in verba
I guess Slashdot was down as administrators were busy scrubbing all its terrorist content before running afoul of EU laws!
If I can be modded down for being a troll, can I be modded up for being an orc, or a balrog?
Ask for the impossible. As long as it's the law, they'll just have to do it...somehow...
Is that why /. sucks now?
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Obviously nothing is done in 1 hr... and given that some of these propaganda is just mere links nothing stops the next person from creating a link using an URL Shortener or another clever method.
That's going to be hard for the big tech companies to do, but one site I know of has pioneered an advanced solution to the problem by simply not letting anything get posted. Only time will tell if this strategy pays off.
Soylent isn't much better. Guess I'll have to go find a real tech news site.
The end result, like many regulations on content, some watered down approximation will be made that isn't as impossibly difficult. However, it will end up being easy for the larger companies and very difficult to impossible for the very small players. This sort of thing locks in big players. Even if one didn't have a problem with broad, government censorship (or concern about the vague nature of what constitutes terrorist propaganda) from a standpoint of not wanting everything to be run by the large players, this sort of thing should be considered a bad policy.
This has nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with censorship. The EU is desperately trying to save itself.
""from terrorist content, incitement to hatred and violence, child sexual abuse material, counterfeit products and copyright infringement." ... is not like the other!
Copyright infringement? Fucking seriously? Get bent RIAA.
with all the other traitors
As a Slashdot reader since ~2001, this is just unacceptable.
On days I was on the internet I think I've checked them at least once a day. Even if it was just to scan headlines.
After deleting Facebook and trying to migrate away from Reddit I've been commenting daily. That is until the problems started.
https://meta.slashdot.org/stor...
I actually had high hopes for the new ownership. I liked a lot of changes and whiplash actually engaged the community.
But this is just unacceptable. Slashdot is how I survived 9/11 when CNN couldn't handle the traffic. Slashdot defined 'slashdotting' long before "going viral" was a thing. I think Coral Cache was created just for Slashdotting.
While the comments have shifted a bit more right (politically) than I did. And the owners shifted left. (Leading to entertaining comments). And while it's not exactly the same type of news like it used to be. The moderation format and the ability to just plain hide low rated comments mean it's still one of the best places on the internet to have any sort of discussion.
And I can't ever remember this sort of outage. Or the plethora of 5xx errors I was getting before the outage started.
My guess is all the young guns don't know Perl like the old ones and something broke. But of all sites on the internet Slashdot is the one that should be able to handle anything.
I know the DevOps exists to scale from a few hundred hits an hour to a few thousand a second. /0100010001010011
this site is jacked
I can buy some life threatening ones that fit within the 10 commandments, but handbags!
But then Oh, Tinder legal, thou shall not covert.
Condenses down to:- This is the committees wish list of crimes and perceived wrongs, notably without priorities or jurisdictional reach.
The Brits bitch about the rise of VPN's by people over 18. Somehow I don't see any Saudi TV channels being taken offline, while various Asian countries know the difference between civil(handbags and untested alleged copyright) and nasty criminal.
In the USA, they may be an inconvenient constitutional amendment. If the EU wants a country by country filtering service, they will have to pay for it -not trying to get freebies.
It's: EU warns tech giants to learn to do fucking magic. I imagine this will be just as effective as their cookie law, which doesn't actually ask if you want cookies, just reminds you they're there, i.e. they'll quickly realise it isn't feasible, sort of forget about it.
... maybe they should send an invoice to the EU for all the hires.
Though they'll remind people to follow the law because it's the law after all, go out of your way, though we won't punish you if you don't... but it's the law. Unless they think Facebook, Twitter, et al are going to manually check everything posted,
Just like every other attempt to "develop tools to detect" anything anything ever says online.
Funny how a bunch of other stuff got lumped in with "terror" (how is it defined and who makes the calls) content there. Heck here the in the US we can't even properly limit our DMCA takedowns let alone the rest of that stuff.
We will chop your heads off and post a video of the beheading on YouTube!
networks around EU and its demands for political control.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
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“Online platforms are becoming people’s main gateway to information, so they have a responsibility to provide a secure environment for their users,” said Andrus Ansip, EU vice president for the digital single market. “We still need to react faster against terrorist propaganda and other illegal content which is a serious threat to our citizens’ security, safety and fundamental rights.”
Will they be taking down the CIA and other US government propaganda sites that actually participate in the violent overthrow of entire governments? Without taking sides or getting into who is right or wrong, you can see the problem with censorship.
Regarding terrorists, the public should hear and see what they have to say so that they can be informed.
Copyright; fuck you. I'll share with friends and friends alike, if you don't like it, suck my dick.
Child sex abuse; disgusting, but hiding it from the internet doesn't prevent it. Do your fucking jobs as investigators and detectives if you want to prevent it. This doesn't mean taking my crypto away either.
The EU might be a tad out of line. Just what is online terrorist speech. Much political content in the United States could be classified as online terrorist speech.
Perhaps the EU should create its own internet.
This article must be chick full of terror content that they keep removing,why else are there no comments?
That's a view held only by the Russian government, the mullahs of Tehran and other supporters of Butcher Assad. Putin sees the refugees fleeing to Europe as a bonus result of his plan to save Assad, who would have been gone by now if not for his intervention. Of course he doesn't have a refugee problem because what refugee would choose Russia over Europe?
I don't understand why first world countries claim to support free speech and then turn around removing communications they don't like all over the place.
It doesn't count as free if you can't push the envelope, and that includes "harmful" speech. "Harmful" speech still requires a person to act upon reading it, after all. By censoring speech, humanity's potential remains limited.
Hate speech has been expanded to telling facts/truths that anyone* finds offensive. These companies should resist this or leave their countries.. Force them to setup their own postmodern firewalls to keep people from accessing the foreign services.
You know what I find offensive, speech from fucking governments who steal 40-50% of the income from everyone.
If this were to happen, then how would the Eurocrats know that he's a terrorist?
So under socialist lefty logic I demand that it be taken down! I mean think of the children! For god-sake.
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If the EU ministers didn't take any videos of their pre-teen orgies, then why are they so keen on being able to remove any content from the Internet as soon as it is exposed?
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Re "easier to identify"
The NSA and GCHQ are tired of reporting CIA and MI6 support networks for the "moderate" rebels.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Create a message board that goes down for maintenance every hour.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Ban Islam and segregate all Muslims who don't wish to give up their religion. Islam should have no permanent presence in the EU in any significant fashion.
So something like that would have to be removed in an hour? I doubt my screaming on the Internet about Islam is going to be very successful, but incitement to hatred it most certainly is.
It seems the EU is dated. Time to reign in the (what letter are we on here...) FU! Long and ever live the FU
They are trying to bully Internet companies into being giant faggots, taking "a voluntary approach" to curtailing free speech in a way the laws of few countries in Europe would allow if it was truly done through direct government intervention.
Bad things don't happen, didn't happen and won't happen in the future. It seems this political climate has occurred before, Oh yeah in the late 1920's and into the 1930's. If you erase history no one can learn from it, if you hide under the blanket the boogey man can't get you. Even in the US the PC groups are busy tearing down and rewriting history because it is politically inconvenient and not sanitary.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
It's time we stop pretending what this is all about. "Terorrism" my ass. Terrorism is a method. You cannot be at war with a method. This whole "war on terror" and "terrorism propaganda" is a big bullshit drawn over our eyes because those in charge are too timid to call a piece of coal black. Sorry, should I have said "rock of color"?
There is a group of people out there who believe it is right to murder us. In their eyes, our crime is simply to be not like them. In their eyes, they are just and right because their religion says so. Terrorism is just one way in which they realize their hatred of everything different. If we by some magic managed to eliminate terrorism, they would find another way. In fact, they did in the past.
The true name for "war on terror" is Jihad. We are just on the other side of it, the side that is being attacked. But since the concept of Jihad is so deeply embedded in Islam, we are afraid to call it by its true name, because we could offend the billion or so muslims who do not murder unbelievers.
So we invent all this bullshit and talk about "terrorism" and "hate speech". But naturally that runs into our freedoms. If I hate people with green hair, I can say so. That is freedom of speech. Rounding them up and murdering them isn't. So where did we forget that before Hitler mass-murdered Jews, there was this idea called Appeasement. Remind me, how well did that work out?
We need to defend our values and civilisation against Jihad - a concept of an eternal war whose purpose is the complete elimination of everything that is different. We need to step up and make it clear that we don't want to be taken back to the Dark Ages.
Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
Wrong: The directive is 'volunteer obedience to our guidelines or we will enact regulations upon you'.
They did that: It's called DMCA compliance. This is the same form of censorship applied to a 'common good' instead of a corporate profit. The results will be the same: The big corporations dealing with each other, for profit and ignoring the rights of people.
Who decides what is "child sexual abuse"? Corporate USA already has strict imaging rules that has driven other countries to destroy benign material, saving zero children. Who decides what is 'hate speech'? Other countries already punish the verbal abuse and criminal language that is so common in the USA. This 'voluntary' compliance is the EU assuming the sovereignty of nations and appointing not wholly blameless US corporations, the scapegoat.
Pretty much any "terrorism" - viol)0 ence the western establishment doesn't like - is either:
1) Carried out by western powers, like the drone murders that started under Bush and turned into a fetish under Obama
2) Carried out by western allies, like when Israel decides its time to murder a few thousand Palestinians or the Saudis decide to ramp up their genocidal campaign against the Houthis in Yemem
3) Direct blowback to actions from western powers. See: all the whining about "lslamic terrorism" in Europe when NATO helped turn Libya from the country with the highest standard of living on the African continent into a nation with open-air slave markets.
So, when big newspapers are publishing that same 100th story about some evil president who "gasses his own people" (despite Mattis and Macron now denying it), and they call for insurrection and war against a foreign government that did nothing to us, can I flag this garbage and get it deleted within an hour?
What about UK politicians doing some Russian scare I don't recall exactly because of so ridiculous and offensive it was?
What about anything Netanyahu says?
I can't think of any worse "incitement to hatred and violence" than emotional and distorted propaganda to incite war - even if they're passing it off as "humanitarian" and calls for large scale war are written as "the international community has to act now", "it's a shame we're doing nothing to.." and so on.
I see, having to post anonymously. Afraid of having your own opinions associated with you on a thread about freedom of speech?
I mean, certainly more so than what others try to label as "agricultural terrorism", namely showcasing animal mistreatments of criminal kind and scale.
Nah, somebody copied someone else's post and copyright infringement claim was lodged.
Seriously though, lumping in copyright infringement in at the same level as terrorist content and child abuse, WTF? Copyright is starting to be a dirty word and it sickens me to see how corporations have even managed to twist public opinion of it, I even saw a dictionary refer to copyright infringement as theft fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. It makes my blood boil.
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rimshot...
(Actually, a sting.)
This is pathetic. Instead of *using* that information to track down and capture whoever they define as terrorists, the EU proposes to destroy the evidence. Any law enforcement officers must shake their heads in disbelief.
Not even mentioning that in most legislations, destroying evidence is in itself a crime.
The EU is going down the drain, Germany is leading the way.
And that's when the US pulls the plug on the EU and says "If you don't like it, make your own God damn Internet you hypocritical Orwellian fucks." *drops cable; walks away.*
TBH, we are getting to the point where swear words are considered terrorist content and homework is considered child abuse. So maybe we could put copyright infringement on the same level.
Create an inarguable position against an unknown, often false flag enemy that can never be fully identified, pinned down, and won against. The endless war on terror and the endless war on free speech will, if those in control have their way, will lead to the filtering of the Internet Fahrenheit 451 style... Just saying.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_451
The UK was trying to (checked - they did) criminalise glorifying terrorism, but to me that's exactly what the government and media do constantly. Want to be (im)famous? - the more people you kill the more glory you get, the media love terrorism, the government also love to ham it up to the max. Want to be even more famous - then kill people in some more novel way, add a twist, luckily for us all, terrorists have no imagination and tend to be pretty stupid.
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Lexis Nexus, when I was there, considered itself a publisher of law-court case reports rather than an indexing site, and so has to take down reports when the courts issue a blocking order.
Despite well-honed proceses, it was still a panic to get a standardized dummy page through in place of the real report. Managing our part of a really huge site in Dayton, OH from Toronto, ON is not a trivial exercise.
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yeah, this is completely unreasonable. They are trying to force tech companies to police ever bit of content that flows through their servers, and ultimately this is about censorship and control.
It's funny how copyright infringement is thrown in the same bag as terrorist content, hatred, violence and sexual abuse. It tells a lot who's behind this..