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Google's Slack Competitor 'Hangouts Chat' Comes Out of Beta (techcrunch.com)

Frederic Lardinois reports via TechCrunch: Hangouts Chat, Google's take on modern workplace communication, is now generally available and is becoming a core part of G Suite. Hangouts Chat was first announced at Google Cloud Next 2017, together with Hangouts Meet. While Meet went right into public availability, though, Chat went into an invite-only preview. Now, Google is rolling Chat out to all G Suite users over the course of the next seven days (so if you don't see it yet, don't despair). For all intents and purposes, Hangouts Chat is Google's take on Slack, Microsoft Teams and similar projects. Since Google first announced this project, Atlassian also joined the fray with the launch of Stride. Like its competitors, Chat is available on iOS, Android and the web.

Chat currently supports 28 languages and each room can have up to 8,000 members. What's maybe just as important, though, is that Google has already built an ecosystem of partners that are integrating with Chat by offering their own bots. They include the likes of Xero, RingCentral, UberConference, Salesforce, Zenefits, Zoom.ai, Jira, Trello, Wrike and Kayak. There's even a Giphy bot. Developers can also build their own bots and integrate their own services with Chat.

52 comments

  1. Slack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    News!

  2. And now it’s gone.... by BLToday · · Score: 2

    I look forward to having this service cancel right after I start using it. So to help all Hangouts Chat users I won’t be using it.

    1. Re:And now it’s gone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, came here to post the same thing. Another flash-in-the-pan project that will be abandoned once Google get bored of maintaining it.

      Stop wasting our time, Google.

    2. Re:And now it’s gone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I look forward to having this service cancel right after I start using it. So to help all Hangouts Chat users I won’t be using it.

      You must use Slashdot a lot too then. They've been down for DAYS STRAIGHT and not one word from them about why.

      Apparently the dumb níggers in Slashdot's management can't handle the most basic things.

    3. Re:And now it’s gone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They had a story about it.

      Change of datacenter combined with DDOS.

    4. Re:And now it’s gone.... by atheos · · Score: 1

      yes, we all know exactly how things work at google. I'm not even interested in checking this out, even though I know the market needs it.

    5. Re:And now it’s gone.... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      You need a major corporate player, with a record for privacy invasiveness and stealing ideas as well as a willingness to corrupt the democratic process to feed their ego and an extremely autocratic bent to forcing their asexual peccadillos on the rest of us, to have an inside line on your companies activities. The ability to data mine all your staffs digital discussions. Seriously the company that does evil by it's own definitions, why, just why?

      Seriously modern corporation, I would not trust Google with anything, except what it can uniquely provide, Google Maps, for everything else, someone else, they have straight up proven they can not be trusted. For search https://duckduckgo.com/?q=duck..., for office apps https://www.libreoffice.org/, browser https://www.waterfoxproject.or... (I know firefox is all chromey but yeah, NAAHHH). Email, seriously serve your own, or if you want more reliable rent a private maintained email server in a local server farm. Messaging https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/..., keeping in mind messaging beyond marketing hype and bullshit, is more counter productive than productive, honestly.

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    6. Re:And now it’s gone.... by swillden · · Score: 1

      I look forward to having this service cancel right after I start using it. So to help all Hangouts Chat users I won’t be using it.

      This is a service for enterprise customers, who pay real money for their services. Unless it's a total flop, it will stick around for a very long time. Even if it is a total flop, it will have a long sunset period for any companies that decide to use it.

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    7. Re:And now it’s gone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      except what it can uniquely provide, Google Maps

      WTF? There is absolutely nothing unique about their map offering and it has the same invasive dossier collection as all of their other stuff. In fact, Maps is one of the most insidious because people use it all the time to provide directions to their stores and so Google knows whenever customers are about to travel to your store, or are considering your store vs all the other stores they just looked up, even if they don't have the spyware installed on their mobile phone which tracks them while they are traveling.

    8. Re: And now it’s gone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DDoS, yeah sure. And when /. starts sending around dick pics, someone will have hacked the phone.

    9. Re: And now it’s gone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google fanboi alert. Hey swillden, did Sergei tell you that Office 365 is lapping your sorry asses to the tune of 10:1 in terms of revenue? That is what actual enterprises use. Now go back to tracking children online.

  3. google is a shithole company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck them and their 50 different chat programs that change every year. fuck them for abandoning open chat standards.

  4. Google Messenger 8472! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Resistance is futile, you will be .... oh damn they allready cancelled it!"

  5. Coward one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google chat is crap. Can't compare slack with it.

  6. Late to the party by zifn4b · · Score: 1

    Google coming to the table with a competitor to Slack and HipChat is like Microsoft's Mobile Phone offering. Too little, too late.

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    1. Re:Late to the party by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Yeah,
      and it is the ugliest chat program I have ever seen, and discontinued on my old iPad ... what the fuck can you make to build in a timer into your software and deactivate it? It is a damn chat software, they did the same bullshit whatsapp and line did on my iphone.

      I'm lucky so, they did not buy telegram and destroyed it.

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  7. "Comes Out of Beta" by jargonburn · · Score: 1

    That must mean they're ready to cancel it. /s

    1. Re:"Comes Out of Beta" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That must mean they're ready to cancel it. /s

      Next thing you know, a show I really enjoy will be aired on the SyFy channel.

  8. Same ransomware business model? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do they use the same ransomware extortion business model as slack of locking up your messages after awhile and demanding you pay them to get your stuff back???

  9. What could possible go wrong? by elrous0 · · Score: 2

    Yeah, because in this age of sexual harassment/hostile workplace/he-hurt-my-fefes claims being thrown at the drop of a hat, more informal communication between employees is EXACTLY what every company and agency is looking for.

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    1. Re:What could possible go wrong? by bug_hunter · · Score: 1

      Alternatively it could be just like Slack that exists in millions of work places and makes it quick to talk to somebody downstairs etc.
      Also this informal communication would be logged, so one thinks people will act a little more cautiously on it.
      We use Slack all the time and it's great for telecommuting, technical group chats, and posting stupid gifs.

      Is the point of your post to blame everything on SJWs, even vague possible threats?

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    2. Re:What could possible go wrong? by murdocj · · Score: 1

      Huh? There's NOTHING wrong with informal communication. Just don't act like a jerk and you don't have to worry about harassment / hostile workplace issues.

    3. Re:What could possible go wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When the term "harassment" is as ill defined to mean "anything anyone doesn't like at any point." And when you can create a hostile workplace by disagreeing with someone in polite conversation, then yes you should be worried.

    4. Re: What could possible go wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THIS.

    5. Re: What could possible go wrong? by edgedmurasame · · Score: 1

      He isn't wrong. If anything, it should encourage immunity from adverse actions at work for personal (non-workplace) conduct.

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  10. Ryver vs. Slack - NM Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's your news:

    Ryver - Like slack, except they actually listen to their users.

    Google's a day late and a dollar short, and we already know they don't listen to their users. GMail's still missing email functionality like "when email comes in to X address, reply using Y address" that was in apps like Eudora in the 1990's.

    As long as Google's got your data, they consider themselves finished with a product. If they can't collect enough of your data, they'll let languish - or abandon - said product. Rinse and repeat.

    1. Re: Ryver vs. Slack - NM Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been able to reply automatically via received address for years...

    2. Re: Ryver vs. Slack - NM Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just use Skype! ... ok, it was a joke.

  11. What’s the over/under? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    I’m calling it - 27 months until Google discontinues Hangouts Chat.

    Also, how many chat products does Google have now... twelve?

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    1. Re:What’s the over/under? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I miss the Gizmo5 days of xmpp and sip federated communication being somewhat the norm between messaging systems. Kinda silly that none of this is built over IRCd and expanded with user management and built in bounce log history (and built in noodle slapping of course)

    2. Re:What’s the over/under? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      biggest problem with IRC is that the authentication is not encrypted. Serious security problem.

      That's not the reason it's not built on that, though. The reason it's not built on that is because everyone accesses it through a web page, so the back end doesn't matter. The protocol is http. For everything.

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    3. Re:What’s the over/under? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > biggest problem with IRC is that the authentication is not encrypted. Serious security problem.

      Why is that a problem?

      Or maybe the way to look at this is that the whole point of IRC is that users are not authenticated for the simple reason that Internet access itself is not authenticated at the global level.

  12. This costs money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does this exist and cost money when Discord and such already do this and more for free?

  13. I've used it, it's great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it only works if there's an even distribution of genders on a given channel.

    And don't even think about getting >3 white males on there. It uninstalls Chrome from your machine.

  14. Where the hell is it? by nashv · · Score: 1

    I have Google Hangouts enabled for users in my Gsuite account services. I don't see anything like Hangouts Chat? I thought Hangouts was always about chat? WTF is Hangouts Meet? Is it the same as meet.google.com?

    What the hell is going on here?

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    1. Re:Where the hell is it? by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      What the hell is going on here?

      The usual, reinventing perfectly good open technologies (such as IRC) with proprietary alternatives.

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    2. Re:Where the hell is it? by nashv · · Score: 1

      At this point, I am not exactly sure what they've invented or if they choose their names based on a random pemutation generator of "chat, hangout, talk, meet".

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    3. Re:Where the hell is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      chat.google.con

    4. Re: Where the hell is it? by nashv · · Score: 1

      That just tells me to go enable it in Admin console. And there is no such thing on admin services.

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    5. Re: Where the hell is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It comes up for me https://admin.google.com/AdminHome?hl=en#AppDetails:service=Hangouts+Chat

  15. Google = Transfag Nigger Trash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now you can enjoy Google 'chat' where your discussions are analyzed by their "AI", sold off when the price is right, and removed at their discretion! Very EXCITING!

    --- OR ---

    just call them a "fat niigger" whenever you want and not be a faggy chat nerd

    hm decisions, decisions

  16. Are these applications a good thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... or is my company doing it wrong - or am I too old.

    Use git for source control - setup login and fix configuration and permission issues to use git.
    Use Jira for bug/feature tracking - setup login but IT has decided on different naming conventions - use two factor method different from everything else - fix configuration and permission issues.
    Wait! Jira must be linked to git submissions. Cue new permission and configuration issues.
    Don't forget to update project Wiki!
    We use Agile! Or how to destroy communication that half-way competent people would do organically. Deadlines are tight people! We need "short" daily SUM's to make sure everybody is on the same page. Managers gotta manage...
    And now Slack. And the inevitable phone text messages - hey I hit you up on Slack why haven't you responded yet? Sooo... must monitor Slack during work.

    Easily half the day wasted on BS. Never a long enough uninterrupted time period to get "in the zone." Development in the social media era. Get off my lawn.

  17. GOOGLE, STOP. *GOOGLE* STOP. by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    It's over.

    NO ONE cares about your 'chat' applications. In any capacity.
    You've utterly and completely screwed this up, over and over and over and over (and over!) again.

    You didn't make an Android version of 'iMessage' which is all the Android people wanted.
    You made fairly competent chat apps for the desktop (inside gmail) and promptly ruined them.

    You renamed things, you merged things, you closed things, you had 2 or 3 chat systems running at once.

    The entire messaging team should be ground up into pig feed. No one there has a fucking clear vision *AT ALL*

    The messaging app should work on PC / Mac / Linux, in a browser and or with it's own app. It should also handle SMS, it should work on ALL Andriod phones as a built in chat tool too.

    Utterly appallingly bad management of the chat systems, honestly if I actually cared anymore, I'd rant 4x longer. It's *mind boggling* how badly it's been managed for the best part of half a decade, maybe longer.

    Nope an no, just no. WhatsApp (while not perfect) is destroying what you offer. Just give up.

  18. Change the reply hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've been able to reply automatically via received address for years...

    But can you automatically set the FROM reply address in the process? That's what's been missing. It's a really basic tool for managing multiple hats:

    How it should work:

    o Email comes in to nick@a.com
    o Reply goes out from yourChosenNick@a.com
    o Email comes in to nick@b.com
    o Reply goes out from anotherChosenNick@b.com

    How it's been working:

    o Email comes in to nick@a.com
    o Reply goes out from you@gmail.com
    o Email comes in to nick@b.com
    o Reply goes out from you@gmail.com

    It's not good to reply to different inputs from different domains with only one fixed email address as the reply. It's confusing / unclear to the recipient.

  19. Re:GOOGLE, STOP. *GOOGLE* STOP. by jbridges · · Score: 1

    I do like WhatsApp, but it does NOT have a desktop client, and does NOT have a web client.

    The pseudo desktop client actually links to your phone, so you must keep WhatsApp active on your phone to use the Desktop app.

    Same with web client, it's just an echo of the phone app.

    Also you cannot have more than one desktop/web client active at a time, frustrating.

  20. Re:GOOGLE, STOP. *GOOGLE* STOP. by novakyu · · Score: 1

    I blame the antifeatures. Hangout would be semi-usable, if it wasn't constantly trying to get me to invite people to Hangout, instead of sending them SMS like it knew I wanted to.

  21. Re:GOOGLE, STOP. *GOOGLE* STOP. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I cared about their chat offering until they abandoned open protocols for walled gardens then it lost all value to me.

  22. Electrum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    am I the only one worried that the app uses electrum?

  23. $5 free trial by weedjams · · Score: 1

    I just attempted to sign up for this and it requires a credit card and a domain with email services running on it.

    If you do not have your own domain, with email, it offers to create one, for a fee.

    bailed, unsubscribed, flew the bird @google.

  24. Annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm starting to get really frustrated with chat apps. It's starting to get as bad as the 90s. Slack isn't very stable for me and has all kinds of annoying limitations for free as well as really annoying things like expanding links and taking up the entire chat with it. The UI just sucks. Skype for all its sins hasn't been too bad except for advertising and Skype for Business just boggles the mind. It takes what was a simple and usable interface and turns it into something that's really awkward to use. Similarly, they recently crippled skype on the phone with a new kiddy interface that now makes it impossible to use seriously.

  25. Two big problems with this. by Mr3vil · · Score: 1

    1) G-suite with domain required. There's no way to subscribe to this as an add-on to existing infrastructure, which is where Slack thrives currently. 2) No ability to invite people outside your org. Again, Slack has Google beat here. You can invite (sub)contractors to your Slack instance without having to create internal credentials for them. Mind you, I hate using these chat apps for work. However, as someone that's had to manage Slack for an organization it's still the bees knees for teams that incorporate it.

  26. Okay, NM Ryver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never mind what I said about Ryver. They just went full-on charge-for-use for over 6 users; no reason to look at them now.

    Time to set up things like local-server-based chat systems.