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Pockets of Water May Lay Deep Below Earth's Surface (sciencemag.org)

sciencehabit writes: Small pockets of water exist deep beneath Earth's surface, according to an analysis of diamonds belched from hundreds of kilometers within our planet. The work, which also identifies a weird form of crystallized water known as ice VII, suggests that material may circulate more freely at some depths within Earth than previously thought. Geophysical models of that flow, which ultimately influences the frequency of earthquakes driven by the scraping of tectonic plates at Earth's surface, may need to be substantially tweaked, scientists say. Such models also help scientists estimate the long-term rates of heat flow through Earth's surface and into space.

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  1. Just stay away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from that ice-nine.

    1. Re:Just stay away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's two whole ice-es away we're probably fine.

  2. Re:yeah right by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    this sure sounds plausible and not like some made up bullshit for scientists to get funding

    Yes, geologists and geophysicists are well-known for being greedy and money-grubbing. After all, everyone knows they selected those fields just to make a quick buck.

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  3. "Fountains of the deep" by spiritplumber · · Score: 1

    I wonder how long it'll take for this to make the rounds on creationist websites, and similar silliness.

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    1. Re:"Fountains of the deep" by Mikkeles · · Score: 1

      I wonder how long it'll be for desert area people (Calif, Ariz, eg.) to suck it all up and whine about water shortages.

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    2. Re:"Fountains of the deep" by fredrated · · Score: 2

      From hundreds of kilometers below the surface? Probably a long time.

  4. Mars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Can we use that data to search for water on mars more accurately ?

    1. Re:Mars by olsmeister · · Score: 1

      Mars does not have plate tectonics, and has lost most of its water to space. Also, have no way to find or analyze diamonds on Mars, assuming they exist. On top of that, if we knew there was equivalent water on Mars it would be unreachable and do us no real good.

      So, nope.

    2. Re:Mars by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      No, but we do know that water ice sheets exist on Mars only a couple of meters below the surface in some areas. This will be an important source of water for the colonists when then start to colonize the planet.

  5. Re: yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See, this kind of ad hominem attack convinces me that this is a made up story. After all, there is nothing in the Bible to support such fanciful tales.

  6. Re:yeah right by duckintheface · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you are going to write headlines, let's use good English. Water does not *lay* deep below the surface. That's a transitive verb and requires an object of the laying, like an egg. The water in question, if it exists, *lies* below the surface, like good intransitive water is wont to do.

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  7. Ice VII? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The work, which also identifies a weird form of crystallized water known as ice VII, suggests that material may circulate more freely at some depths within Earth than previously thought.

    Just as long as it isn't Ice Nine, I guess we're all safe!

  8. I feel like by aliquis · · Score: 0

    We shouldn't mess with what's in the ground too or redistribute heat.

    We still just have one earth and the less we destroy the better.

    1. Re:I feel like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This water will come in handy when we've destroyed the rest of our drinking supplies via fracking.

      Hopefully they don't find any oil or gas near these extremely deep pools of water or we'll have a real conundrum on our hands.

    2. Re:I feel like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We only have one earth, and that is a serious problem for the continuance of our species.

      The best possible thing we can do to ensure our long-term survival is colonize other planets.

      The *only* way to do that is to develop the tech, and the *only* way to do that is to have the funding necessary for all the research, and the *only* way to do that is to have and maintain a thriving economy that can fund it, and the *only* way to do that is to harvest resources from the earth.

      Gotta spend a planet to gain one, it seems.

    3. Re:I feel like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're thinking in terms of capitalism, which is understandable as it does seem to be the current functioning society with the resources to pull of any of what you're describing. The problem is capitalism doesn't tend to lead towards research in those fields unless you're speaking EXTREMELY long-term. Sure, we've got the Elon Musks and such making their little tin-can tossings ever more impressive, and I say that as a man that really is rooting for Musk to succeed in his quest to colonize Mars within the next generation's lifetime or so, but that in and of itself was a long time coming.

      I won't pretend I know what the better way is, but I have to think there's got to be a better way to deal with reality that attempting to make some imaginary concept (money) the new god and demanding EVERYTHING be funneled through the filter of that god.

    4. Re: I feel like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You still have to support the development economically, with a fully developed technical infrastructure. The only question regarding capitalism, if interstellar travel is really your yardstick, is whether it's the most efficient way to do that. I suspect it is, but never mind proving me wrong, since I don't accept that yardstick.

  9. Re:yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But we survive underground as the world turns into an ice ball!

  10. Re:yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's 2 kinds of geologist: The kind you see squatting down on the Discovery Channel pointing at strata on an exposed piece of rock, and the ones hired by oil & mining corporations (who are definitely not the academic paupers people like to picture)

  11. Re:yeah right by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    But "may lay" rhymes and we know that it is important to rhyme in headlines.

  12. Fremen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a leftover Fremen cistern from the days when sandworms ruled!

  13. Re:yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    The headline was copied from TFA, which is a geology article. Did you really expect the Dirt People to know anything about basic grammar, spelling, or sentence structure?

  14. The hollow Earthers were right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I knew flat earth was a scam. Thanks NASA

    1. Re:The hollow Earthers were right! by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      Yes, unfortunately the hollow earth is filled with Silurians. Don't wake them up.

    2. Re:The hollow Earthers were right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought they were already running the government. How could it get any worse?

  15. Be wary of finding ice ix! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No good comes of that.

  16. Re:yeah right by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    But we survive underground as the world turns into an ice ball!

    No, as the oceans rise we survive by developing techniques to pump more water deep underground.

  17. Real science on slashdot? Wowsers! by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    About time!

    By the way, the earth isn't flat and climate change is caused primarily by humans since more than a century now.

    That said, while this might be fun for those writing SF and Fantasy, in thinking about what life might "exist" in underground domains, it's still highly unlikely that it will replace us. That's AI killer robots job.

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  18. Uh-oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Elon decides that the Boring Company can sell bottled water, too.

  19. Re:yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don’t know what a geologist gets paid these days....but a hundred or hundred fifty years ago, some of them made absolute fortunes doing large scale surveys in the US and around the world.

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  21. Extra water? by mysidia · · Score: 1

    Sounds like something to help with our drinking water shortages of late....
    Let's get a drillin!

    1. Re:Extra water? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of the missing water to explain ocean rise was found to be water pumped from aquifers.

    2. Re:Extra water? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Sounds like something to help with our drinking water shortages of late....
      Let's get a drillin!

      If you RTFA you will see the salty mineral laden composition detected

  22. Re:yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can't tell if you are a Russian troll or just a clueless alt-righty who thinks everyone is out against them. not that there is much difference between Russian, communist trolls and the alt-right people these days. both want to destroy democracy.

    Unlike your uninformed, uneducated, conspiracy theory opinion, this article discusses actual findings and facts.

  23. Re:yeah right by jwhyche · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you have access to The Curiosity Stream, or if you can find it else where, you should watch the Wizard of H20. It is about Alain Gachet who figured out a way to use satellite images to find deep water aquifers. Using his technique his has been right 98% of the time.

    He is very couscous about making sure the aquifers are sustainable and will recharge. I've added him to my list of hero's to worship.

    The documentary actually entities that don't want him to find water for people. They actually think its better to let refugees die of thrust that find them water. Sometimes I wonder if coming out of the trees was such a good ideal after all.

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  24. Oh really, they lay? What do they lay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do those pockets of water lay? Or do you mean lie? Did you mean they lie deep below the earth's surface? Surely, that makes more sense, because pockets of water never really lay anything. Or do you just not know the difference?

  25. Re:yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "They actually think its better to let refugees die of thirst that find them water."

    In Arizona, on the Cabeza Prieta Wildlife Refuge some 50 miles from the border, they shut down wells so migrants can't use them.

  26. Re:yeah right by jellomizer · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    The next thing I will be told is is if I drill a hole in my backyard I will reach a point where I can pump up relatively clean water? Like some kind of well?

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  27. Ice VII?! by smithmc · · Score: 1, Interesting

    But that's only two ices away from Ice-Nine!!

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    1. Re:Ice VII?! by vulcanrob · · Score: 2

      Thank you, I was afraid there would be no ice nine jokes. That's the first thing I thought of. All is right with the world.

    2. Re:Ice VII?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm here because of Kurt Vonnegut!

    3. Re:Ice VII?! by UnAmericanPunk · · Score: 1

      Yup, that's exactly what I thought too!

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    4. Re:Ice VII?! by Memnos · · Score: 1

      Odd thing is, Ice IX has already been discovered IRL. But it doesn't have the ability to freeze the ocean. (I think it's up to about 17 ice crystalline forms so far..)

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  28. Re:yeah right by Sperbels · · Score: 1

    If I had mod points I'd down vote you so hard right now.

  29. Thank you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad I'm not the only one pulling out my hair.

    1. Re:Thank you. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      You two should get a room.

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  30. Hard water by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    I don't think a water softener would remove solid rock from your water.

  31. Cat's Cradle by shayd2 · · Score: 1
    They are up to Ice VII

    I am waiting for Ice IX

  32. Ringwoodite by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    I've read multiple articles stating that ringwoodite contains enough water in the mantle as on the surface of the planet - oceans and all!!

    Which BTW, does kinda make sense when you think about it. Earth was formed in orbit around the Sun (as all planets) via an accretion disk. So all that dust and debris would be not in any particular order. Over time, gravitation forces and tectonic activity would pull all the heavier elements toward the core, and lighter gasses would rise to the surface (see our atmosphere). Water is no different. If locked up in rock, it would belch out as water vapor through volcanism and other tectonic forces.

    Just a wild guess here, but it's not inconceivable to think that in another billions years or so, our planet will turn into a Water World. And sorry, no, there will not be a Kevin Costner around.

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  33. Re:yeah right by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Funny

    He is very couscous about making sure the aquifers are sustainable and will recharge.

    This man is a Middle-Eastern grain dish?

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  34. Re:yeah right by Templer421 · · Score: 1

    But Couscous is very tasty!

  35. Re:yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OMG! Satellites cannot "see' below the top 30 cm of soil. Deep aquifers! How are even allowed on this site? Do you work for that lying Scottish firm that claims this nonsense?

  36. Re:yeah right by jwhyche · · Score: 2

    OMG! Satellites cannot "see' below the top 30 cm of soil. Deep aquifers! How are even allowed on this site? Do you work for that lying Scottish firm that claims this nonsense?

    Sometimes, I do hate it when I've got mod points. I have to read idiots like this.

    Watch the documentary, it had details on how it work. Here is a link to a article that has some details on the process.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/french-geologist-alain-gachet-says-new-water-divining-technique-could-alleviate-drought-all-over-the-a6796516.html/

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  37. Re:yeah right by jwhyche · · Score: 2

    This man is a Middle-Eastern grain dish?

    Spell-checkers are sometimes more trouble than they are worth. But on the other hand, I might have found dinner this weekend.

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  38. Tell Elon by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

    With water available, and enough technology to reach it, maybe he can build a base on that planet.

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  39. Global flood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A large part of the great Noah's flood came from below.

  40. Re: yeah right by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    See, this kind of ad hominem attack convinces me that this is a made up story. After all, there is nothing in the Bible to support such fanciful tales.

    Bullshit. There is enough odd verbiage in the Bible to support any tale imaginable.

    And then some.

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  41. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why? duckintheface is completely correct.

  42. Re: yeah right by jwhyche · · Score: 2

    Bullshit. There is enough odd verbiage in the Bible to support any tale imaginable.

    Did you know that unicorns are in the bible? You really want to fuck^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hhave fun with a creationist. Go to one of their "museums" and get them talking about the dinosaurs, which are not in the bible. Then ask them where the unicorns are, which are in the bible.

    I swear I could practically hear the gears stripping in his head.

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  43. Re:yeah right by JOstrow · · Score: 1

    +1

  44. Re:yeah right by Khyber · · Score: 1

    I use satellite all the time to find minerals tens of meters under the surface of the earth. Try again when you actually know how to utilize satellites.

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  45. Re:hi there fuckwit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't you shut up you fat retard

  46. Geologists Catch up with Physicists .. almost by fygment · · Score: 1

    Yeah Thomas Gold would not have been surprised. But that's because physicists have first principles and draw conclusions from them and think about what is possible. "Geo"-types (and esp. Bio-types) aren't scientists in the sense that physicists are rather they are collectors continually surprised by the unexpectedness the world presents them with.

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  47. Deep Water! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I knew it! Deep Water is lurking there, trying to prevent our Dear Leader, the Big Giant Orange Head, from achieving his Right Thinking goals and objectives!