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Kansas 'Swat' Perpetrator Is Now Also Wanted in Florida (kansas.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Florida police recount how close they were to aresting 25-year-old Tyler Barriss before his fake call to Kansas police led to a fatal shooting. "Panama City Beach police Lt. J.R. Talamantez told the Panama City News Herald that police had tied Barriss to about 30 other bomb threats," reports the Wichita Eagle -- a full month before another call led to the fatal shooting of a father of two in Kansas. But attempts to secure an arrest warrant may have been slowed by the lack of an address, since apparently Barriss "lived in a shelter in South Los Angeles. Police there found him in a local library."

A Florida newspaper reports that their local police department is now doing what they can to right the situation. "Lt. J.R. Talamantez, cyber crimes investigator with the Panama City Beach police, said the department currently has two felony warrants issued for Barris' arrest and is providing the U.S. Attorney's Office with information... Talamantez said the end goal is to identify all victims of Barriss' calls and bring him to justice on all those incidents... "We just want to send a message that this isn't going to end with a slap on the wrist. The victims will see an appropriate punishment."

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  1. Another day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Another Known Wolf.

    1. Re:Another day by ravenshrike · · Score: 2

      At least they had the excuse of the guy not having a known address, let alone having been called to the address in question 39 times.

  2. "The victims will see an appropriate punishment" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Maybe you could have phrased that better, chief.

  3. Re:"The victims will see an appropriate punishment by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 3

    All but one of the victims will see an appropriate punishment.

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  4. Punish by DCFusor · · Score: 2

    The caller, the shooter of an innocent person? It needn't be an either/or issue. I say, both!

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    1. Re:Punish by q_e_t · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I'm locked in the bathroom. My husband is battering tn the door, saying he will kill me".

      "Madam, can you quote your driving license number?"

      "No, it's in the living room, in my purse"

      "Sorry, Madam, we can't help you. Goodbye"

    2. Re:Punish by LWATCDR · · Score: 2

      Oh I am sure it will deter some.

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    3. Re:Punish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      'Anti-police' and 'police should do better' are not the same thing. Quit conflating them.

      We really need to get rid of the whole 'reaching for their waistband' as an automatic excuse for the police to open fire. Too many actions can be interpreted / distorted as reaching for a waistband. Firing at the first motion seems to be based on the assumption that the person doing the reaching is some sort of movie-level quick draw artist - able to pull a gun out of their pants, aim and fire so fast that a police officer can't wait to at least see something that looks like a weapon. It's bollocks.

    4. Re:Punish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Could you pour it on a little thicker? "Might be a kid?" Come on, go all the way - it might be a button that'll start a thermonuclear war! Better shoot now, just in case.

      The police in this situation were in a distant, protected location - there was no reason to react in a panic, and they didn't have enough information to choose deadly force. But one of them, theoretically a trained individual who should have been prepared for this situation, opened fire when he should not have.

      I bet you've got excuses for the cops in the Arizona shooting too:
      https://www.washingtonpost.com...

    5. Re:Punish by Maritz · · Score: 1

      This happened in the US. Police there get to shoot whoever they like, more or less. Most of the time they don't even stop being cops.

      I agree the cop should be prosecuted, but it's not really a part of the world where that kind of thing happens.

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    6. Re:Punish by Maritz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Everyone is assumed to be a threat until proven otherwise or rendered ineffective.

      Oh boy. Quoted for understatement. Yeah. Shoot shoot shoot.

      I say, walk a mile in the cops shoes before you start casting judgement.

      The cowardly cunt shot an unarmed man who had his hands up. Cops like him are cowardly, spineless fucks, and you've got waaaaaay too many just like him.

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    7. Re:Punish by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Employ better police. Train them better. Have police who are not snivelling, jumpy cowards. Try that. See how you get on.

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    8. Re:Punish by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Try being a cop for a while.

      Gladly. Despite your ridiculous excuse making, there is a simple fact at play. The cop shot an unarmed man. There were no weapons in the house.

      There. Are. No. Fucking. Excuses. For. That. I don't give a fuck if it was dark, or if the cop had been told some SCARY things.

      Pathetic.

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  5. Appropriate punishment by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Funny

    The victims will see an appropriate punishment.

    So he's going to be locked in a cell and SWAT teams will randomly terrorize him for years, day and night, without warning, at random hours?

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    1. Re:Appropriate punishment by geoskd · · Score: 4, Informative

      He'll maybe get a stay in a psych ward somewhere, and then be freed when the psychiatrists get bored with him.

      That's not the way that process works.

      The way it actually works, is the judge finds that a defendant is incapable of understanding the consequences of their actions, and orders that the defendant be held in an institution for such people (This is a process known as being involuntarily committed, and can be undertaken by a judge or a family member). If at such a time in the future, the person in question is planned for release from the facility in question, they are remanded back to the custody of the court, and the original proceedings are continued. This is not a get out of jail free card, unless you mistakenly think that involuntary commitment is anything other than a prison.

      Once a person has been committed, even the entity that committed them cannot get them released without the facilities consent or a court order to that effect.

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    2. Re:Appropriate punishment by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      You do realize that being committed for being insane usually leads to a longer stay than if you'd actually been convicted of the crime, right?

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    3. Re: Appropriate punishment by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Gulag FTW!

    4. Re:Appropriate punishment by Kjella · · Score: 2

      He's not capable of understanding that he has done anything wrong. Any good lawyer will play that like a fiddle. He's a narcissistic psychopath or some other melange of serious mental disorders. No judge or jury will be able to hold him legally accountable for his actions. He'll maybe get a stay in a psych ward somewhere, and then be freed when the psychiatrists get bored with him.

      Not very likely. The insanity defense is used for people with delusions, hallucinations, compulsions, psychotic episodes and such, that is to say people who lack the capacity to understand and/or control their actions. Not feeling bad about your crimes, poor impulse control or stalking/obsessive behavior is generally not enough for an insanity defense in the US, at least not after the 1984 Insanity Defense Reform Act. Besides it's more like a life sentence, the whole system is rigged against ever getting out because even if the professionals think you're fit for release it goes back to the DA who wants to be tough on crime, a court that'll mostly go along and a general public who isn't eager to have former mental patients with a history of criminal acts back on the streets.

      In other countries yes, like here in Norway if you're found not guilty by reasons of insanity you're per definition not a criminal and the justice system has no more say. So if they put you on medication and the medication works it's their call whether to release you. Re-offending statistics indicate they're generally cured, it's mostly people's feelings of justice that are hurt. If you suffer a heart attack while driving and run over some random, innocent pedestrians we kinda accept it's an ill body and not an act of terror. It's a lot harder to accept that the raving loon that went around stabbing people is the result of an ill mind, a sickness that has been cured and that the person is no more guilty of that than the one that suffered a heart attack. For a sane person it's hard to imagine "something else" taking control.

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  6. Let me get this straight by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 1

    A police cyber crimes investigator is also the one doing the sentencing: "this isn't going to end with a slap on the wrist. The victims will see an appropriate punishment."?

  7. They need to fix the VoIP spoofing vulnerability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And this needs to be done nationwide. Unlike a lot of theoretical vulnerabilities demonstrated at the conferences, this is literally a matter of life and death. This kid isn't the only one out there pulling this kind of shit.

    And they need to train 911 operators to spot and react properly to out-of-state calls.

  8. Re:Yet more rehashing of bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    oh, shut the fuck up. next time there's someone dealing drugs outside your house, what are you going to do about it? cry? no, you call the police. if someone calls in a bomb threat at a school, or if there's someone with a gun at the mall shooting, is nobody supposed to show up? get fucking real. this kid was abusing a means of calling for armed emergency last-line support. he was doing it knowingly to hurt and harass other people. he knew he was doing this and wasting tens of thousands of dollars of public funds. he should be hung or shot as an example that that's not tolerated. you can't allow people to do that kind of abuse to public systems without repercussions, or everyone who wants to will do the same.

    like honestly, are you stupid, or 10? don't be stupid. letting him get away with it is no different than letting the country decay into lawlessness.

  9. Florida doesn't take action? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They seem to be showing a pattern of ignoring clear warning signs.
    They failed to take action prior to the recent school shooting and now we find out that they let 30 bomb threats go.
    I'm starting to think the whole big brother thing is just a scare tactic to reduce crime without doing anything except over-exaggerating their capabilities.
    How many other red-flags are they ignoring?

  10. Has the SWAT cop been charged yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Glad, they're taking care of the idiot "just for lulz" guy. Hope they're going to charge the SWAT cop if they haven't already, too.

    1. Re:Has the SWAT cop been charged yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
  11. Prison rape, but yes by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and personally I think it's a little screwed up that we use the prisoners themselves to inflict the cruel and unusual punishment that we don't have the stomach to do ourselves. Then again I'm not in favor of punishment based prison. Either rehabilitate him or keep him locked up for life if we think he'll be a danger to the community. But I'd like us to be good enough people that we don't have to resort to round about torture.

    Either that or go all in and use pain ray on them 24/7 until their heart fails. At least then we'd be admitting we want to cause pain and suffering.

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  12. Re: Yet more rehashing of bullshit by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    next time there's someone dealing drugs outside your house, what are you going to do about it?

    If your post is any indication, the answer is "Go outside and conduct all the fucking business you can."

  13. Re: "The victims will see an appropriate punishmen by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    ...will see

    For the borderline illiterate, "will see" in this context is more likely to mean "will happen to them."

  14. Re:Yet more rehashing of bullshit by fafalone · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    You disgusting authoritarian bootlickers who see no difference between a civil police force that protects its citizens and one that is ultra-violent, militarized, and views citizens as war-time combatants are a disgrace to the principles this country was founded on. Take your "but if police aren't ultra-aggressive soldiers that shoot first, ask questions, and view civil rights as something to work around, the only alternative is anarchy with no police" and fuck right off to PoliceOne you psychotic jackass. Same for whatever jackass who modded that comment up.

  15. Re:They need to fix the VoIP spoofing vulnerabilit by fafalone · · Score: 1

    Well you can't have 911 operators refuse to respond to a call because it originates out of state. For every one of these terrible pranks, there's people who call in because of legitimate emergencies with loved ones in other states.
    Caller ID, it's quite the redesign. There's too many legit uses to not allow spoofing at all; you'd have to somehow have every 911 center hooked into every phone company system to view the real origin, as well as into every VoIP provider (and with that, you'll only have IP and billing info at best, not geolocation). There's good reasons it's still a problem.

  16. Re:Yet more rehashing of bullshit by civilwaradvocate · · Score: 2

    Are you mentally retarded?

    There's a SLIGHT difference between 'some one showing up' and a military platoon crashing in without warning.
    No one is arguing for this kid's interest. You are willfully ignoring the real issue, you troll.

  17. Re: Yet more rehashing of bullshit by civilwaradvocate · · Score: 1

    Seriously, cops do not do SHIT about drug dealing. I live in a downtown area and people sell hard drugs to partyers, junkies, etc. all day long OUTSIDE MY WINDOW and on the blocks all around

  18. Re:They need to fix the VoIP spoofing vulnerabilit by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Well you can't have 911 operators refuse to respond to a call because it originates out of state.

    I'm curious: do they decide if the call is local because of the area code or because of some telemetry location data, like a cell tower's location? If it's area code, then that's just stupid. I've moved from one coast to the other in the past 3 years and I still have an area code from the midwest.

    If they use actual location data, then that's a little more reasonable, but I can still imagine a scenario where someone from outside the area would be making a 911 call. For example, if a mother is talking long-distance to her neo-nazi gamer son who tells her he's going to go shoot up a school because they're not real people, only crisis actors, then I would expect the mother to call 911 for the area where her son lives. I'm pretty sure the local 911 operator would put her right through. She might end up saving some lives, though hopefully not her son's.

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  19. Re:Victims of what exactly? by q_e_t · · Score: 1

    And the police operations cost exactly nothing too. Er, hold on...

  20. Re:Yet more rehashing of bullshit by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

    Trying to blame one kid

    The SWATer is no kid: "25-year-old Tyler Barriss"

     

  21. I say by kilodelta · · Score: 2

    The people doing the swatting are idiots. If you're gonna misuse an instrument of state use it to creative purpose. For example you could swat the more idiotic politicians in the region. That would be great fun too especially if someone could tap their in-house camera systems.

    Maybe then we'd get them to pass legislation ending the trusted CLID business.