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Microsoft Brings Native HEIF Support to Windows 10 (thurrott.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Microsoft is bringing support for the new HEIF image format to Windows 10. First popularized by Apple with iOS 11, HEIF is a new image format that uses less storage space while preserving image quality. The new image format is used by default on Apple's iPhone X and other devices running iOS 11. While Microsoft's online services like OneDrive already supported HEIF since the release of iOS 11, Windows 10 didn't natively support the new format as of yet. But with the upcoming Redstone 4 update -- possibly called the Spring Creators Update -- the Microsoft Photos app in Windows 10 will support HEIF by default. Further reading: CNET.
I only used uncompressed image storage formats. They are far superior.
WTF is wrong with Microsoft that I can attempt to open a PDF in MS Server 2014, and it STILL can't handle it natively?!?
Are they waiting to see if PDF will "take off"? Are they waiting to see if their "PDF-Killer" XPS will win-out (hint: It won't). Or what?!?
What morons.
Great ... just what we need another patent minefield image format.
WTF is wrong with Microsoft that I can attempt to open a PDF in MS Server 2014, and it STILL can't handle it natively?!?
In my view, getting P0WN3D should be opt-in.
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HEIF is a container, not an image format. However typical container contents (HEVC and H.264/MPEG-4) are patent encumbered.
Why am I not surprised to discover that both the container for format (HEIF) Anna the codec (HVEC) are extensively covered by patents? This is the GIF story again, except this time done deliberately by Apple and Microsoft.
OneDrive doesn't properly support HEIF, or at least didn't as of September last year. https://mspoweruser.com/micros...
Microsoft has reached out to us, clarifying that OneDrive on iOS will automatically convert HEIC files to JPEG when you back them up on your iPhone, so you will still be able to view them as regular image files in your Windows 10 device and iPhone.
Are there any implementations for Linux?
You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
>You compress it, you will lose quality.
Um, NO. lossless compression is possible.
That comment in the summary probably could have been worded better, but I think it was intended to say that it does a better job of preserving image quality per amount of space used when compared to other image compression algorithms, such as .jpg (which is the defacto standard right now).
Intelligent responses welcome, flames will be met with marshmallows.
If MS built PDF into their OS, there would immediately be cries that they were abusing their monopoly position to try to kill Adobe and third-party PDF apps.
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uses less storage space while preserving image quality.
BULLSHIT
You compress it, you will lose quality.
Or all of information theory is wrong.
Or you shift some of the storage space to the program that decompresses. You know, with things like Run Length Encoding, or Huffman compression, or LZW. Or things like Fractal Image Compression where you effectively gain artificial, but perceptible, quality by trading for time and storage space during both an analysis phase and decompression. I'm just guessing, but you seem to have missed out on the last three decades of the previous century. Now if you want to make an argument for the loss of quality for all encoding techniques, regardless of compression used, when reducing an original image to a particular color depth, or resolution... then yes... all existing image formats are inherently lossy when going from real life to digital storage.
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It has slightly better image quality than JPG for the same file size, but the main benefit is that it allows multiple photos in a single file. This can either be a very short movie (Apple calls it Live Photo on the iPhone) or the same photo in multiple exposures or focal lengths (I believe photographers call this "bracketing") allowing you to fix a bad photo after the fact or do other creative things.
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How free is the HEIF format? Can open source support it?
BULLSHIT
You compress it, you will lose quality.
Or all of information theory is wrong.
I have three letters for you to study: PNG.
I still use Photoshop CS6 (no real need to 'upgrade'), will the Windows upgrade mean I can open HEIC files in it?
That's hardly a DND (Duke Nukem Delay)
Or things like Fractal Image Compression where you effectively gain artificial, but perceptible, quality by trading for time and storage space during both an analysis phase and decompression.
Not only time and storage space but also money, as Iterated Systems demanded substantial royalties for the use of techniques covered by its broad patents. And good luck moving all your users from countries where patents like these are valid to countries where they are not.
The patent thicket around fractal transform compression allowed for more research into DCT, wavelet, and MDCT compression, and this research allowed these paradigms to overtake fractal transform compression.
That depends on what you mean by "quality" and what you consider important in the data. If you can compress away visual details that the eye/brain cannot detect, in an image that is primarily meant for human viewing, then you have reduced the data with no apparent loss of quality. Similarly for audio, if you throw out data that the average (or say 90th-percentile person) can't hear, you can reduce the amount of data with no apparent loss of quality. The use of formats like MP3, JPEG, and MPEG by hundreds of millions if not billions of people every day bears out this concept.
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Yes - mobile and cloud. That's why this was introduced on Apple phones a while back. Not sure about Android but I would be surprised if it didn't go that way.
I use it, primarily to bring photos into a central storage location from my iPhone.
WTF is wrong with Microsoft that I can attempt to open a PDF in MS Server 2014, and it STILL can't handle it natively?!?
There is a reason for this:
Adobe Systems refused to let Microsoft implement built-in PDF support in Microsoft Office, citing fears of EEE (Embrace, extend, and extinguish). -- Wikipedia
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
I doubt if most here run Windows servers. Neither do we distribute documentation exclusively in PDF format. I suppose if it were common for servers to have a GUI then we might consider a PDF reader to be necessary. However, my file manager is capable of browsing foreign servers and allowing me to open documents located on those servers, and it's possible that Microsoft has managed to duplicate this functionality as well.
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We use some non-consumer level MS products that use XPS natively, and I prefer those. They're smaller and faster to work with.
I don't respond to AC's.
Embrace
Extend
Extinguish.
Support is nowhere to be seen.
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>> HEIF is a container that can contain anything
Nope.
Can't contain my beer.
Back to PNG.
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Firefox comes with a basic PDF viewer. So does Google Chrome (and Chromium since third quarter 2014), though Mozilla PDF.js is also available from Chrome Web Store.
Or are Chromium and Firefox also a "bug-fest"?
This can't be slashdot - TFS is way too well written