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Twitter CEO Says Bitcoin Will Be the World's 'Single Currency' In 10 Years (theverge.com)

In a recent interview with The Times, Twitter and Square CEO Jack Dorsey said he believes that bitcoin will become the world's single currency within 10 years. "The world ultimately will have a single currency, the internet will have a single currency," said Dorsey. "I personally believe that it will be bitcoin." Dorsey went on to say that the transition would happen "probably over ten years, but it could go faster." The Verge reports: That Dorsey is a fan of bitcoin isn't too surprising, though. In addition to serving as the CEO of Twitter, Dorsey is also the CEO of Square, which recently added the option to buy and sell Bitcoin directly from the Square Cash app. The company also released an illustrated children's story touting the benefits of the digital currency. As for Dorsey himself, he's gone on the record in an interview with The Verge's own Lauren Goode about the benefits of bitcoin as a currency, describing it as the "next big unlock" for the world of finance. (Dorsey owns an unspecified amount of the cryptocurrency.)

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  1. From the wheres-my-business-model-apartment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, at least it will be sooner than twitter's working business model.

    1. Re:From the wheres-my-business-model-apartment by nonBORG · · Score: 2

      He said that right after buying $15Mil of bitcoin I suspect.

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    2. Re:From the wheres-my-business-model-apartment by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, at least it will be sooner than twitter's working business model.

      And it could be a self-defeating prophecy. All that electricity going toward mining, none left for tweeting. At least we'll all be warm.

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    3. Re:From the wheres-my-business-model-apartment by denzacar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      CEO of bullshit company peddling bullshit Ponzi schemes/pyramid schemes because "HE BEEELIEVEEEZ!!! PRAIZE THE JEBUZ!!! AND THE BUTCOIN!!!"

      Does that qualify as a business model? Lots of churches are doing the same...

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    4. Re:From the wheres-my-business-model-apartment by denzacar · · Score: 2

      BTW, is there a criplecurrency called Butcoin? And I don't mean that fake one.
      My analsis (60 seconds of googling) can't seem to assertain if there is one.

      If not... I smell a big future for such a currency.
      Everyone in the world is already half way there to assepting it, but they are kinda sitting on the fence about it.
      And there's even a ready-made Latin motto for it - "Non Olet".

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    5. Re:From the wheres-my-business-model-apartment by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Not that bad if you bought it when it was worth pennies but buying it over ten thousands dollars, serious ouch and make no mistake apart from thrashing about for a while bitcoin is dead and unbacked crypto getting banned as a ponzi currency. Every government seems to be closing in on it. It's like a big net, catching people, only the criminals and spies left using it, as far as some governments are concerned.

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    6. Re:From the wheres-my-business-model-apartment by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You've got the wrong end of the stick if you're asking "How will this benefit Twitter?" The question should be "How will the benefit Jack Dorsey?"

      The answer is right there in the summary: he's also the CEO of a credit card processing company that's just gotten into BitCoin. So the title of this article should be "Square CEO says bitcoin will be the world's only currency in ten years," and the summary should note that people believing this would be very good for Square.

      I wouldn't be surprised if Dorsey picked up a bunch of Bitcoin before making the pronouncement. However if I were a Twitter stockholder I wouldn't be too happy about his using his Twitter notoriety this way.

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    7. Re:From the wheres-my-business-model-apartment by trg83 · · Score: 2

      1 Bitcoin is subdivisible into 100,000,000 (one hundred million) parts known as Satoshis. Here you are, with so much misplaced confidence.

  2. All that glitters is not bitcoin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I guess no one informed him that bitcoin has a limited number of transactions. Good luck with that.

    Obvious pump is obvious

    1. Re:All that glitters is not bitcoin by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Interesting

      He's the CEO of Square. Decentralized transactions destroy his business model. However, Bitcoin still requires third-parties like Square. TL;DR, from his POV, the limited number of transactions is a feature, not a bug.

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  3. OK by no-body · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You need Internet to do bitcoins, right?
    So, in 10 years everyone on this planet will have internet access and able to handle bit coins...

    What idiot!

    1. Re:OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course everyone on this planet will have internet access by then. How else will the world government control us?

    2. Re:OK by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If it happens, it won't be used as a day-to-day currency.....the transaction times are too slow, and the volume is too limited for that. Instead, it will be used the way gold was a century ago......mostly kept track of on ledgers in a bank, used for large transactions between currencies.

      The only way that will happen is if there is massive inflation and no one trusts fiat currency anymore. Somehow we made it through the 70s and 80s without that happening, so it seems unlikely.

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    3. Re:OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      in other words, he wants to cash-out his own bitcoin holdings but is pissed the market is down significantly from its all time high; so he's using his position as square c.e.o. to try to boost it... sounds like the sec should take a really close look at him.

    4. Re:OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The same thing could be done with Lightning network without any bitcoin anywhere. No matter how hard you and CEO boy try to shill, bitcoin is not only nearly useless, but also wastes significant electricity.

      Enjoy the crash.

    5. Re:OK by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But Lightning network fixes that by providing Bitcoin the capability to support extremely high volumes of almost instant and nearly-feeless transactions.

      There may be someone who figures out how to make Bitcoin derivatives that enable high volume, low-fee transactions, but it won't be Lighting Networks. They will be in the trashbin of VC funding before the end of next year. Their focus on marketing, combined with their lack of focus on actually getting the thing to work has doomed them: if they ever gain any popularity at all, they will be hacked and lose it all, like many other bitcoin startups before them. Lightning Networks is making all the same security mistakes.

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    6. Re:OK by Mr0bvious · · Score: 2

      It's going to crash big time, it must, an AC on /. said so.

      If you think that since it's worthless/useless and wastes electricity that I'll crash, then you put too much faith in rational behaviour of humans.

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    7. Re: OK by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Oh look, someone wants to argue. Given that Lightning Networks already has security bugs, given that bitcoin security is very hard to begin with...........What do you think are the chances of them succeeding with security?

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    8. Re:OK by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      there's no fucking need for it to be used day to day like that.

      maybe you could. but you would still just use your credit card or whatever.

      also, one thing you shlops forgot is that DORSEY IS A BIT STUPID. when is twitter gonna make money now again? in 10 years too?

      (*being a bit stupid is not something that would make it impossible to gather a lot of money from outside sources and burn it on running a service at 10x the cost it should take to run and paying yourself huge salaries while at it twitter is a fine example of a company trying to make up for lack of profitability per user by scaling up. sure after that you're bigger, but you're still not profitable because you didn't fix the architecture that makes running the service too expensive per user)

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    9. Re:OK by jshackney · · Score: 2

      So, in 10 years everyone on this planet will have internet access . . .

      Except in Hamilton, NY and Gettysburg, SD. I can't for the life of me get a good enough signal in either of those places.

    10. Re:OK by Powercntrl · · Score: 2

      in other words, he wants to cash-out his own bitcoin holdings but is pissed the market is down significantly from its all time high

      He's probably not alone; I'm sure a lot of people who "invested" in BTC want out before all those Mt. Gox coins get dumped on the market. When it comes to cryptocurrency, beware of the pump - it's almost always a sign of an impending dump.

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    11. Re:OK by Powercntrl · · Score: 2

      If you think that since it's worthless/useless and wastes electricity that I'll crash, then you put too much faith in rational behaviour of humans.

      Bitcoin did languish at roughly 1/4th of its previous (at that time) high for most of 2015. Bitcoin will probably never crash completely down to $0, but the pool of "suckers" will eventually run dry.

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    12. Re:OK by Powercntrl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There may be someone who figures out how to make Bitcoin derivatives that enable high volume, low-fee transactions...

      And they still wouldn't have fixed the biggest flaw in cryptocurrency: instability. Since around noon today, BTC has gone from a high of $9,174, a low of $8,745, and was at $9,000 when I started writing this, but has since dropped about $8.

      The whole concept of a transaction is an exchange of goods or services for an agreed upon sum of currency. Cryptocurrency completely fails at this. Hell, even used iPhones would be a more stable form of currency.

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    13. Re:OK by pD-brane · · Score: 2

      It is surely reasonable to think that if Bitcoin were used as the main (or only) currency, its value would be stable (as things are priced in Bitcoin).

    14. Re:OK by CrashNBrn · · Score: 2

      Yeah maybe, considering there's also more used iPhones than mined bitcoins.

    15. Re:OK by StormReaver · · Score: 2

      So, in 10 years everyone on this planet will have internet access....

      That's more likely than Bitcoin becoming the one currency to rule them all. Starlink has tremendous potential to end most (if not all) ground based Internet, but only if reality and theory mesh this time.

    16. Re:OK by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      And they still wouldn't have fixed the biggest flaw in cryptocurrency: instability.

      Actually they might fix that. Instability is the result of low trading volume to tangible things of external value. Fundamentally one of the causes of bitcoin's low trading volume is the high cost and long transaction delay that make it unsuitable to use for trading. Fix that and one of the hurdles disappears which may lead to higher trading volumes which inherently creates stability.

      Mind you some of the other causes are things like chicken and egg scenarios which real currencies around the world overcame by backing of government banks. I don't see that one happening with Bitcoin though.

    17. Re:OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is surely reasonable to think that if Bitcoin were used as the main (or only) currency, its value would be stable (as things are priced in Bitcoin).

      And there's your problem. Nations (especially the US) are NOT going to give up their own currencies, because the loss of control over their economies. Yes, the Euro is different, and there are conditions to be able to issue it - "budget deficit of less than 3% of their GDP, a debt ratio of less than 60% of GDP (both of which were ultimately widely flouted after introduction), low inflation, and interest rates close to the EU average"

    18. Re:OK by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      Hell, even used iPhones would be a more stable form of currency

      According to this dated report I just pulled up, from 2011. Each Iphone contains 0.034 grams of gold, 16 grams of copper, 0.35 grams of silver, and 0.00034 grams of platinum.

      http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/13/technology/iphone_trade_in/index.htm/

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  4. Should investigate early onset dementia by gweihir · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because he seems to be suffering from it. Alternatively, he bought a lot and now is trying to pump the exchange rate.

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    1. Re:Should investigate early onset dementia by thegarbz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not at all. It all makes far more sense when you look at the money:
      Man who somehow made a whole lot of money by starting a company that has been unable to make any money is suggesting that something that isn't money will become worldwide money.

      When you frame it like that you realise that he doesn't have dementia, he just has no idea where money comes from or how it works.

  5. Just a hunch, but... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Twitter and Square CEO Jack Dorsey said he believes that bitcoin will become the world's single currency within 10 years.

    Am I the only one who's starting to get the impression that the people who are running these immense dot-com behemoths might not be as bright as we've been led to believe?

    Could it really be that the so-called leaders of the tech sectors are really just a bunch of shallow jackasses with zero self-awareness?

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    1. Re:Just a hunch, but... by Zaelath · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Asking @jack about global finance is like asking Michael Jordan about string theory.

      Just because he's "successful" in one endeavour doesn't mean he's any better informed in something completely unrelated.

      They're both really good at promotion though.

    2. Re:Just a hunch, but... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Asking @jack about global finance is like asking Michael Jordan about string theory.

      Nonsense. Next, you'll say that choosing a crooked New York real estate developer as a political leader might not be the best idea.

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    3. Re:Just a hunch, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      True you need the Harlem Globetrotters for String Theory (per Futurama: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Keeps_On_Slippin%27)

    4. Re: Just a hunch, but... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are you retarded?

      I want the slickest, meanest, slimy, ugly motherfucker on my team. We're up against Russia and China, who have no problems murdering anyone to get ahead (or just to make a point).

      Obama was a massive pussy in their worldview. They walked all over him, and we suffered for it.

      Now we're doing the walking. Put your boots on, or shut the fuck up.

      DO NOT CONGRATULATE

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    5. Re: Just a hunch, but... by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yet Trump can't actually say anything negative about Putin. If which there are many opportunities.

      It's almost like they have dirt on him.

      Ot almost like Trump has some understanding of international diplomacy that you, being a mouth-breathing idiot, lack?

      First rule of diplomacy: do not congratulate the leader of a government (for winning a very questionable election where many opposition leaders were arrested or barred from running) who just tried to murder a former spy on the home soil of one of your biggest allies. It emasculates and humiliates your ally and emboldens the offending state.

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    6. Re: Just a hunch, but... by Duds · · Score: 2

      "Electing a serial sexual assaulter has helped women come forward"

      Brilliant.

  6. Obligatory: Predictions are like assholes by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    ...everyone has one and most stink.

  7. Oh come on by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is the same guy whose company is banning cryptocurrency ads.

    I guess that means he's holding bitcoin and is worried about it.

    Even the bitcoin fans will tell you why that won't work. Crazy overhead to validate transactions, limited number of transactions, overall currency limit.

    And the big reason, which is that it's not money. It's just a fantasy. OK, I think dollars are a fantasy too, but cryptocurrency takes all of the problems of fiat currency and amplifies them.

    1. Re:Oh come on by freeze128 · · Score: 2

      "There will be one currency, and bitcoin will be it"... Yeah, right. Just like there will be one spoken language, one written language, one form of government, one type of measurement, etc. All that will only happen if there is only ONE continent on this planet, and it's going to take a hell of a lot longer than 10 years.

    2. Re: Oh come on by mapkinase · · Score: 2

      What if you replace bitcoin in the quotebite with "blockchain based currency"?

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  8. This would be a terrible outcome. by sg_oneill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Bitcoin is an inherently deflationary currency thats been in almost permanent recession since it first got hype. The thing is , what makes a currency good to invest in is somewhat the opposite of what makes a currency good for an economy. When an economy is working, the dollar will buy less and less over time, commensurate with the increase in money flowing in the economy. But bitcoin is hard wired to a very slow increase in money supply and has no financial instruments capable of stimulating that supply of money. This is counter intuitive to a lot of people, but if you look at how real money actually works, you can see its true. In the good times, theres lots of inflation,. both in the price of things, but also in peoples wages. When that trend reverses, we have a depression on our hands(assuming that trend lasts a few quarters, I believe).

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    1. Re:This would be a terrible outcome. by Orgasmatron · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nothing quite like a bitcoin story to bring the middle school economists out of the woodwork.

      Consumption loans would be rare, nearly impossible to get on an unsecured signature in a deflationary scheme. Are you sure this is a bad thing? And if a 20% interest loan is barely breaking even in real terms in today's inflationary scheme, who would borrow at a similar nominal interest rate under deflation knowing that it was an effective 50% real rate?

      I'll give you a tip for thinking about future possibilities. If you change something in your hypothetical universe, it is wise to figure out the consequences of that change by not changing anything else - except for things that are already consequences of the thing you are changing.

      Interest rates are neither the word of God, nor physical law. They are the consequence of a richly dynamic interaction of many forces operating over many years. It is highly implausible to imagine that they would be exactly the same in an environment that is even slightly different, much less one where the very heart of the system has been inverted.

      Inflation always ends badly. And by "always", I mean from literally the dawn of history. The only potential counterexamples are still current, just like the only potential counterexamples of human mortality are still current. I'm pretty confident that every human alive today will die eventually, just as all that came before have, and I'm equally confident that every inflationary currency will die the way inflationary currencies always die.

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  9. Yeah, right. by HanzoSpam · · Score: 4, Funny

    Given that Twitter can't seem to make any money, what makes their CEO's views on economics noteworthy?

    Listening to this guy's opinion on bitcoin is like buying stock based on tips from a homeless guy.

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    1. Re:Yeah, right. by GrimSavant · · Score: 2

      It should be a flashing red light to sell stock in this guy's companies. This indicates a wider scale and deeper cluelessness about business in general, and that sort of aggressive cluelessness that does not bode well for the concept of "long term viability and profitability" for businesses he runs.

      Or maybe he is just BSing and trying to ride a wave of exuberance but doesn't actually believe what he is saying. That's not really much better.

  10. My bullshitarium won't inflate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Advantages of crypto currency over money: anonyous transaction? Nope, its a ledger. Cannot be infinitely inflated? Nope, there can/are an infinite number of these currencies with different keys and techniques. Cheaper to transact? Nope, they're damn expensive to transact and there's nothing inherently expensive about transacting money.

    It has no real utility and therefore no real value. The value is there because people believe it has value.

    I could set up a server right now and sell you numbers if you like. The block chain doesn't add any utility. It's garbage in garbage out, it only records what you feed it, and that could be total garbage, so we can throw that part away. Would you think my numbers have value? Number 3 sold for $100 (to my mum) and she sold it on for $300 (to my dad) who sold it on for $700 (back to me), so that gives my currency a worth of billions!

    Depends on how much of a mock auction I run, and how much astroturf I push to scam the gullible.

    In inflation times, money moves into hard assets, typically stocks and resources not fluff like this.

    1. Re:My bullshitarium won't inflate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Insults aside, you didn't counter a single thing I said.

      1) There is an infinite supply of crypto currency. You didn't dispute this.
      2) It has no utility and hence no value. You didn't dispute this either.
      3) Blockchain is garbage in garbage out. Again no dispute.
      4) I could sell you numbers from my limited pool of numbers with the same pump used for 'crypto' and it would have equal value of zero. Again no dispute.
      5) The claimed 'anonymous' nature of Bitcoin transactions is clearly bogus, since all transactions are in the ledger and identifying one traceable transaction identifies them all. No dispute.

      Bogus assets are as old as the hills, junk bonds, junk derivatives, subprime mortgage derivatives, all have the property of having value because people selling them claim they have value.

      Suckers buy in, then the price drops, the suckers try to talk up the price to minimize their losses, drawing in fewer and fewer suckers until the bubble collapses.

    2. Re:My bullshitarium won't inflate by Moloth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nonsense argument in the context of inflation. That's like saying that if I sit at home creating new fiat currencies that will inflate existing fiat currencies. Huh? There is an similarly infinite supply of fiat currencies.

      Yes you can creat new fiat currencies however typically there are only 1 per country.. However you can create as many alt coins as you want and as with any new software they are built to be better than the last. So what stops users changing from one alt coin to the next? You dont have this option when you are using the local currency. If your in Australia you can only use the australian dollar and that dollar is backed by the government so unless the government goes broke your fiat is perfectly fine.

      Many cryptos have utility. Ever heard of smart contracts?

      Yes smart contracts are a good utility, howeve there is no lock in unless one crypto becomes the default way to do contracts. What stops me changing to a new smart contract provider? The issue is it is too easy to create another coin/smart contract/blockchain thing. The only defining asset a crypto has is the amount of people using it.

      How is "garbage in garbage out" a problem? (that's a typical trait of most systems)

      Agree, garbage in garbage not a problem if you are using a coin that has a decent following. If its full of garbage no one would be using it.

      No you can't .... well not in the same way cryptos can. The blockchain provides a layer of trust and mechanisms for transactions (that maintain this trust relationship). The fact it uses "numbers" is an implementation detail.

      Again you could make the same argument for fiat currency (a piece of paper with a number on it, heck I'll print you some now!).

      The parent was saying that he could create a new alt coin and sell coins in it for bugger all capital investment. A lot harder to create a fiat currency and sell it. Yes it is next to impossible to forge a bitcoin and very hard and illegal to forge fiat.

      You've changed from discussing "crypto currencies" to now being specific about BTC.

      There are many 'anonymous' cryptos if you're wanting one. BTC is not one.

      Agree.

      Fiat currencies are a flat out failure and will collapse at some point. Something will replace them, it may be crypto currency, it may not.

      Ask yourself: Why does a currency need an underlying asset of value? (yes it's a common trait, but not a required one). What is the underlying asset behind fiat currencies? There's not a whole lot of difference between either except one was here first and the other provides a bunch of additional features (think inflation).

      Fiats are not a failure, there is a reason for fiat, yes governments can and do abuse it by printing billions which can turn into inflation (or even worse: hyperinflation) . On the other hand having it locked to a physical asset like gold can cause the money supply to dry up which is another set of problems. see Why the Gold Standard Is the World's Worst Economic Idea, in 2 Charts I think having any blockchain as currency and its limited nature is like having a gold standard, which means your screwed in recessions. So I dont think any government is going to allow cryptos as a standard medium of exchange unless they are allowed to increase its supply ( Then cryptos are basically fiat. )

  11. Not with the kiddie porn on the blockchain. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yesterday we saw an article saying the bitcoin blockchain contains kiddie porn inserted by the users.

    Today we saw an article saying the senate has taken another step to amend the Communications Decency Act to cut into the broad protections [online services] have from legal liability for content posted by their users.

    Maybe Bitcoin won't be around much longer because the miners will all be in jail as pornographers.

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    1. Re:Not with the kiddie porn on the blockchain. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oh Slashdot, with your low UID graybeards who know everything from decades ago but are just clueless reactionaries on anything current and unfamiliar. You do realize mining in a pool doesn't require maintaining a full local copy of the blockchain, right? And being the sage you are, I'm sure you also realize that virtually no one mines solo.

    2. Re:Not with the kiddie porn on the blockchain. by MrVictor · · Score: 2

      I am noticing this too. Any story on bitcoin sends the low UID accounts into fits of rage. It's their way of rationalizing missing the boat on, what might be, the greatest wealth transfer in history. It's either that or early onset dementia.

  12. This just in by redmid17 · · Score: 2

    Jack Dorsey is a moron.

  13. ROFL drunk, drugged or just plain stupid? by bloodhawk · · Score: 2, Informative

    LOL, so did he happen to have a needle stuck in his arm at the time or was he plastered on cheap moonshine? or does he actually believe that magically every country in the world is going to convert to an inherently flawed, non scalable currency controlled by the chinese? and that is before you consider the technical problems of no way in hell will everyone in the world have sufficient technology access for this to even be possible.

  14. Bitcoin does not scale by manu0601 · · Score: 2

    It is surprising Jack Dorsey did not realize that bitcoin cannot scale.

    There are already too many transactions, which cause delays and/or rising fees. This is such a serious problem that even ransomware business turns away from it.

    And the worst is to come. Since bitcoin volume is limited by design, mining new bitcoin will become harder and harder over time, leading to the situation where the incentive for miners to maintain the blockchain will vanish.

  15. Currency exchange rates and trade relations by RhettLivingston · · Score: 2, Informative

    To have a single world currency, you'd have to find a replacement for the role that exchange rates play in international trade relations. Currency is portable. Economies are not. They are tied to regions. Inequities are created when vastly different economies use the same currency.

    You can see some of the issues within the US. You can buy a home on loan for say $800K in California, hold it for a few years, sell it for a $1M, take the $200K to Tennessee, and buy a nearly identical home for $200K.

    I once used that equation as a recruiting method to recruit experienced engineers from California. They went from struggling to make it to living on easy street despite a 30% cut in salary because their house payment completely disappeared and all other expenses went down at the same time.

    That is only possible because California and Tennessee use the same currency. If they didn't, the exchange rate would likely counter the difference so that $1M California dollars = $200K Tennessee dollars since money should have the same purchasing power everywhere. Granted, using houses as the comparison stretches this a bit over reality. But, even when you look at mundane things like gasoline, groceries, or getting your grass mowed, the dollar is worth less in California than Tennessee.

    Imagine the abuses that could occur if this was extended to California vs. a poor third world country. It doesn't seem dangerous when you just look at people taking their money to a place where it is worth 10 times more and living there, but if they purchase resources there and bring them here to where they are worth ten times more and then sell them, you could dangerously reduce the resources in the third world country.

    1. Re:Currency exchange rates and trade relations by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2

      > you'd have to find a replacement for the role that exchange rates play in international trade relations. C

      You'd ideally also prevent large scale arbitrage from sucking all the profit out of those exchange rates, which is modern high-speed trading does to the stock market. I'm afraid that the thigh speed trading firms would balance the local currencies _very_ swiftly, before the ordinary worker had any possibility of personal benefit through switching markets.

  16. It won't be bitcoin - f*#k the banks by FeelGood314 · · Score: 2

    Crypto currencies are so much easier to use than regular FIAT currency that there will be a crypto currency that will be used for at least 10% of all world wide transactions in the next 10 or 15 years. It just won't be bitcoin. There are just to many problems with it. The supply is limited, the transaction times are too long, the number of transactions per second is far to low, and the governing group on policy is not the people using it but the miners. Oh and the cost of the mining in terms of electrical usage is just nuts.

  17. Truth in advertising by Rumagent · · Score: 3, Funny

    Translation: Twitter CEO has bought bitcoin and want to dump it

  18. Where was Dorsey in B-school? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    Obviously not in many econ classes. Bitcoin is failing as a currency precisely because now that most of the ultimate available supply has been mined, that's all there will ever be. Because of this, Bitcoin has transitioned from being a digital currency to a sort of imaginary investment which will be hoarded so long as each buyer thinks he can sell it for a higher price to some other buyer. Either Dorsey already holds a lot of it or he just doesn't know any better.

    Even gold makes a better currency than BTC, because the gold supply has increased by an annual couple of percent or so over all historic time as new gold comes out of the ground. That's why it made a perfectly good currency across the pre-technology centuries when the amount of wealth in the world barely changed and every transaction was a zero-sum exchange. When the Industrial Revolution made it possible for net economic wealth to increase every year, the need arose for managed currencies that grew at the same rate as everything for which it can be traded.

  19. 10 years from now... by sizzzzlerz · · Score: 2

    15-year old script kiddies control the world's economy through their successful hacking of the sole world currency.