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Artem Tashkinov writes: Some time ago, Ars Technica ran a monumental article on beaming of consciousness in Star Trek and its implications, and more importantly, whether it's plausible to achieve that without killing a person in the process.

It seems possible in the Star Trek universe. However, currently physicists find the idea absurd and unreal because there's no way you can transport matter and its quantum state without first destroying it and then recreating it perfectly, due to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. The biggest conundrum of all is the fact that pretty much everyone understands that consciousness is a physical state of the brain, which features continuity as its primary principle; yet it surely seems like copying the said state produces a new person altogether, which brings up the problem of consciousness becoming local to one's skull and inseparable from gray matter. This idea sounds a bit unscientific because it introduces the notion that there's something about our brain which cannot be described in terms of physics, almost like soul.

This also brings another very difficult question: how do we know if we are the same person when we wake up in the morning or after we were put under during general anesthesia? What are your thoughts on the topic?

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  1. It depends what you're wearing . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . beaming down while wearing a red shirt does NOT seem to be a good idea.

    Folks dressed like that never seem to last too long.

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  2. Re:Bullshit by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hasn't "BeauHD" ever heard of Heisenberg Compensators?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  3. Re:Bullshit by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1, Funny

    > "Soul" is a religious concept,

    Nonsense. It has fuck all to do with religion. The fact that _some_ religions _hijack_ the term is orthogonal to the discussion.

    > zero actual evidence of the existence of any such thing, and it is not a concept that should be included in such discussions.

    You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

    It is obvious you've never had an OBE, a shared OBE, an NDE, and don't know how to meditate.

    I became a mystic when I dwelt in the presence of my Soul a couple decades back. Experience IS the evidence.

    You will have _your_ evidence when you are dead and realize that

    a) "Holy shit! I'm conscious!"
    b) "Whoa! I no longer have a physical body"

    But keep telling others what they have or have not experience -- because you don't have a frame of reference to even understand the question.

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  4. The Mirror Universe. by Zorro · · Score: 4, Funny

    But why is the copy in the Mirror Universe ALWAYS Evil and has a Beard?

  5. Re:Bullshit by rudy_wayne · · Score: 3, Funny

    Come again?

    Don't mind if I do.

  6. exact replica by Jodka · · Score: 5, Funny

    The other day somebody stole everything in my apartment and replaced it with an exact replica... When my roommate came home I said, "Roommate, someone stole everything in our apartment and replaced it with an exact replica." He looked at me and said, "Do I know you?"

    - Steven Wright

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  7. Re: Bullshit by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Funny

    In my dreams I am a supermodel starship captain.

    Well then. I'll see you tonight ...

  8. Re: I really like to fuck vaginas. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    There are seven different vaginas that lead to enlightenment. You must find these 7 evil vaginas, and fight them.

    -a guy who has just as much evidence as the OP