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Artem Tashkinov writes: Some time ago, Ars Technica ran a monumental article on beaming of consciousness in Star Trek and its implications, and more importantly, whether it's plausible to achieve that without killing a person in the process.

It seems possible in the Star Trek universe. However, currently physicists find the idea absurd and unreal because there's no way you can transport matter and its quantum state without first destroying it and then recreating it perfectly, due to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. The biggest conundrum of all is the fact that pretty much everyone understands that consciousness is a physical state of the brain, which features continuity as its primary principle; yet it surely seems like copying the said state produces a new person altogether, which brings up the problem of consciousness becoming local to one's skull and inseparable from gray matter. This idea sounds a bit unscientific because it introduces the notion that there's something about our brain which cannot be described in terms of physics, almost like soul.

This also brings another very difficult question: how do we know if we are the same person when we wake up in the morning or after we were put under during general anesthesia? What are your thoughts on the topic?

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  1. Ya, well ... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... physicists find the idea absurd and unreal because there's no way you can transport matter and its quantum state without first destroying it and then recreating it perfectly, due to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.

    It's been established that ST transporters have Heisenberg compensators, so checkmate actual physicists.

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  2. Already been definitively answered by burtosis · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since we are talking Star Trek, this has all ready been directly answered. Riker beams up, but leaves a copy. Years later, he is rediscovered by the enterprise crew. Dr. Crusher and Jordi agree they are identical and equally "Riker" so it must be true. Eventually the duplicate wanders off to lead a life of his own. Glad I could wrap that up for everyone scientifically, once and for all.

  3. Think Like a Dinosaur (The Outer Limits) by orev · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Outer Limits did an interesting episode on this topic: s07 e08 Think Like a Dinosaur.

  4. Re:After general anesthesia? by dlleigh · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's sleep paralysis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    It's very common and nothing to worry about.

  5. Heisenberg compensator by Toshito · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's what the Heisenberg compensator are for: http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/...

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