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Megaupload Founder Kim Dotcom Wins Battle in Ongoing Fight Against US Extradition (reuters.com)

Eccentric Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom has won a major court battle today in his ongoing fight against his extradition from New Zealand to the U.S. From a report: German-born Dotcom faces extradition to the United States relating to his Megaupload site, which was shut down in 2012 following an FBI-ordered raid on his Auckland mansion. U.S. authorities say Dotcom and three co-accused Megaupload executives cost film studios and record companies more than $500 million and generated more than $175 million by encouraging paying users to store and share copyrighted material. Dotcom, who has New Zealand residency, is fighting those charges and the extradition. The Human Rights Review Tribunal awarded Dotcom damages of NZ$30,000 ($21,816) for the "loss of a benefit" and NZ$60,000 for "loss of dignity and injury to feelings."

98 comments

  1. Loss of dignity and injury to feelings? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Does anyone have the number of this place giving out cash? I have a nice list of names from highschool of people who both caused me loss of dignity and injured my feelings.

  2. and so the system works as intended. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just as the judicial system intended.
    If you ever find yourself arrested by a heavily armed militia at gunpoint for a victimless, nonviolent charge for which you cannot defend yourself as all your assets have been unilaterally and indefinitely frozen...

    if the judge for your case exhibits criminally contemptuous behavior and appears to be working lock-step in compliance with the wishes of a foreign nations special interest group...

    If the prime minister of your country spent four days meeting with the special interest trade group of a foreign nation, and that nations own FBI illegally seized all your data...

    then rest assured...The Human Rights Review Tribunal will award you a few thousand dollars for being made to feel bad..

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    1. Re:and so the system works as intended. by butzwonker · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Also, he was arrested in 2012. Now it's 2018 and he's still fighting against his extradition to a country that has declared him a fugitive even though has never set a foot on its soil, based on shaky evidence and illegal surveillance.

    2. Re:and so the system works as intended. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      But what TFA fails to mention is that the Attorney General appears to have withheld information that could have helped Dotcom, putting him in contempt and potentially blowing up the whole extradition case.

      Of course Dotcom is still screwed, because even if he avoids extradition it will be difficult for him to travel outside New Zealand, and the US won't unfreeze any of his assets, and his business has still be destroyed with no compensation. At least he might avoid a US jail though.

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    3. Re:and so the system works as intended. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would have to look at the timeline of US political changes compared to decisions around this case, but... those may be relevant to who is running the DOJ at the time.

      As always, might just come down to politics and money. I don't recall if the media cartels give a lot of $'s to Republicans. Doubt it.

      Then again, New Zealanders probably weren't too happy with their tax funds being used for this inanity.

      Guess it's matter of picking the potential narrative. Either way, at least Dotcom got some sense of justice. Though a pittance...

    4. Re:and so the system works as intended. by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 5, Informative

      >His business model was founded on undermining the concept of intellectual property.

      His business model was selling cloud storage.

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    5. Re:and so the system works as intended. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha yeah, his business model was selling "cloud storage". (wink wink)

    6. Re:and so the system works as intended. by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Why don't they leave that poor boy alone?

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    7. Re:and so the system works as intended. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Yes.

    8. Re:and so the system works as intended. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which in other news - US cloud storage company Dropbox just IPOd to much excitemen making the founders billionairest. Droobox has been heralded as an innovative company for it's ... cloud storage services .. which uh ... America bitches.

    9. Re:and so the system works as intended. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which national asset did they sell off to pay dotcom ? ;-)

    10. Re:and so the system works as intended. by Calydor · · Score: 2

      The business model of ISPs is undermining the concept of intellectual property, then. Without the internet you can't download pirated music and software.

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    11. Re:and so the system works as intended. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Got any more of that $60,000 for "injury to feelings"?

    12. Re:and so the system works as intended. by youngone · · Score: 3, Informative

      Then again, New Zealanders probably weren't too happy with their tax funds being used for this inanity.

      I am a New Zealand taxpayer and I would much rather my tax money was spent on this sort of thing than tooling up a bunch of police (who should have known better) to kick someone's door in at dawn when two detectives could have knocked politely at a decent hour.
      Now that the raid has been ruled illegal it will be hard to argue anything gained in the raid is admissible I would think.
      As mentioned, Kim dotcom might be in danger if he travels overseas however, as the US has a track record of kidnapping people and torturing them.

  3. Is he using the Asperger's defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like all other hackers?

    1. Re:Is he using the Asperger's defense by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No, with him it's more the "if you hold me prisoner, you have to feed me, maybe you want to reconsider after looking at me" defense.

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    2. Re:Is he using the Asperger's defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he has a better defense: there's a Republican in the White House. If She had had #herturn, this guy would have been deported in no time.

    3. Re:Is he using the Asperger's defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably. And probably the fat slob defence as well. New Zealand should extradite him just so they won't have to pay his obesity-related medical bills.

    4. Re:Is he using the Asperger's defense by kamakazi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow, I have seen loose interpretations of the term "hacker" but I expected better on \.. What exactly is he supposed to have hacked?
      This is a guy who saw an opportunity and made money, just another crooked entrepeneur. Really no different than Facebook or Google, except he took data from large corporations, while the latter take data from normal civilians.

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    5. Re:Is he using the Asperger's defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, with him it's more the "if you hold me prisoner, you have to feed me, maybe you want to reconsider after looking at me" defense.

      Good job, there. Never mind the travesty of justice the US and NZ governments have carried out, just go for fat shaming. Your mother must be so proud. /s

    6. Re:Is he using the Asperger's defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is different, this is shaming Kimble for being Kimble. Whole package. His weight is beside the point.

    7. Re:Is he using the Asperger's defense by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Damn. Bringin' it.

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    8. Re:Is he using the Asperger's defense by youngone · · Score: 2

      That might be how things work in the US, but here in New Zealand we haven't politicized our judiciary.

    9. Re: Is he using the Asperger's defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it's perfectly fine to call Sarah Dunham a Human Dumpster Fire, because I'm attacking the "whole person" and not just an aspect of how horrible she really is.

      Good to know, I enjoy playing by the rules.

    10. Re: Is he using the Asperger's defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fat shaming, the left and their "tolerance" How very progressive of you!

    11. Re:Is he using the Asperger's defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haaahahahahahahaaah. You sure you're living in NZ?

  4. Re:Justice by Opportunist · · Score: 0

    Yes, but it happened to so many people before, so many had to suffer, why not that sleazeball?

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  5. Still by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I still think he should be sued for having such a lame last name.

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    1. Re:Still by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      I just wish *my* feelings were worth $60,000...

    2. Re:Still by Tsolias · · Score: 2

      I am glad he used the .com tld and not the .co.nz they have in NZ for companies.
      Imagine Kim DotCoDotNiZ

    3. Re:Still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except it would be Kim Dot-Co-Dot-eN-Zed.

  6. FBI Vast Overreach Stymied by shubus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm really glad to see this.

  7. MegaUploadCost by Tsolias · · Score: 1

    Megaupload executives cost film studios and record companies more than $500 million and generated more than $175 million by encouraging paying users to store and share copyrighted material.

    wow, that's almost 6 gorillion shekels.

    1. Re:MegaUploadCost by sheramil · · Score: 1

      Megaupload executives cost film studios and record companies more than $500 million and generated more than $175 million by encouraging paying users to store and share copyrighted material.

      wow, that's almost 6 gorillion shekels.

      It does seem a little low. Aren't the damages in these sorts of cases ranked in the hundreds of billions? Did a legal team sit down and decide "Five hundred billion seems too much, given the films he was supposed to be hosting."

  8. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    This does not in any way mean he's won his extradition fight. If you look at the next line in TFA, it says "The Human Rights Review Tribunal’s decision might be relevant for his high-profile U.S. extradition case, which is with the Court of Appeal." So, no more than "might be relevant".

  9. Scorecard for March 26th by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2, Insightful

    US World Police: 0
    Good Guys: 2
    (kim.dotcom and Lauri Love won't be thrown into the dungeon of the US injustice system)

    I don't condone many of the activities of either, but I don't wish the US "justice" system on anyone either nor condone judicial kidnapping by the US government.

    1. Re:Scorecard for March 26th by KixWooder · · Score: 1

      I'm happy with this decision, but Kim Dotcom is in no way a Good Guy. He's a sleezeball.

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    2. Re:Scorecard for March 26th by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the insider trading. Probably no worse than many Wall Street bros get away with every week, though.

    3. Re:Scorecard for March 26th by MDMurphy · · Score: 1

      And Miranda was a rapist. It usually requires someone to commit a crime, or an innocent person unjustly treated before laws get "corrected'.

    4. Re:Scorecard for March 26th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kim Dotcom is in no way a Good Guy. He's a sleezeball.

      But he's standing right next to the US and NZ governments, so he looks like a good guy.

      They really shouldn't have tried so hard to out-piece-of-shit him. I hope he gets all his money back, and ideally, some extra money (just to rub it in). Either get the bigger-bad-guys to personally pay, or have the extra money come from us the taxpayers, as an incentive to start reigning in our governments' abuses. If Trump becoming president wasn't enough to get people to vote, maybe every US citizen knowing that they had to pay a few extra dollars out of their own pockets to Kin Dotcom of all fucking people, will be enough to finally get people to care about their government.

      The sleezier Dotcom is, the more I like the idea of every US&NZ taxpayer having our noses explicitly rubbed into it. Maybe change the 2019 form 1040 (with similar change to whatever NZ has) to have a line near the bottom where it says "Kim Dotcom Tax $100.00" and it's added to everyone's tax liability. Have the tax go to him, making him a billionaire who doesn't deserve it. (The idea being, We The People deserve to have that money even less.)

    5. Re:Scorecard for March 26th by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Right. Notice how the losses he "caused" are calculated to be much more than the money he made. Whereas, if you have a "legitimate" business in the US that pollutes the Earth so bad that the government has to step in, close off the area, and use tax payer funds in a decade-long Superfund cleanup effort, you get slapped with a $6MM fine after having made billions conducting your business and blatant negligence. This is one example of an issue that spans several industries and many circumstances.

      If they perhaps calculated that these industries lost $20MM he could simply pay them and walk away. This is a witch hunt.

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    6. Re:Scorecard for March 26th by Calydor · · Score: 1

      The problem with defending civil rights is you spend most of your time defending scoundrels and criminals.

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    7. Re:Scorecard for March 26th by Calydor · · Score: 1

      6 million million dollars?

      20 million million dollars?

      Isn't million just shortened to a single M?

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    8. Re:Scorecard for March 26th by mhotchin · · Score: 1

      In financial circles, 'M' is for 'mille' (French) or 'milia' (latin). Like per-cent, think of the latin language roots.

    9. Re:Scorecard for March 26th by Cederic · · Score: 1

      I've worked in the finance industry for over 20 years and nobody uses MM for millions.

    10. Re: Scorecard for March 26th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except English is derived from German, not Latin.

  10. Still not off the hook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In case it wasn't clear due to the misleading summary, Kim Dotcom is still in court trying to escape the extradition request. The only thing that happened was Kim won one part of his case claiming that some data about him had not been provided by the Attorney General.

  11. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because he's rich. So there's the moral of the story.
    Lie, cheat, and steal to get rich and famous quick before the charges come in and you can ascend into the overclass with all of the privileges and de facto legal protections granted by such status. Not even the government will be able to touch you then.. sure maybe you'll have some things to boo hoo and hem haw about but you're not going to suffer near the sort of treatment that common people can expect while awaiting trial on a misdemeanor

  12. Re:Justice by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    The idea is that people shouldn't have to suffer in future. I hope Trump alienates the outside world to the point that they won't even extradite El Chapo if Ivanka begged on her knees for it. US justice is extremely biased and skewed towards the prosecution while maintaining a fiction of fairness.

  13. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the US has an excellent chance to return to being that nation that, at one time in history, defeated the Nazis

    Ah, that grand old time when the US was the Soviet Union.

  14. Re:Trump loses battle with life in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't you people block this loser's IP address ?

    The incessant series of irrelevant posts is well beyond wasteful.

  15. And the files? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can i get my fucking files back now?

  16. Re:Justice by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    Home?
    He can go the fuck back to Germany.

  17. Re:Attention trumptards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Says the pussy boy who hides behind a keyboard.

    Nice try, but I already won this thread.

  18. Re:Justice by MoaDweeb · · Score: 1

    He is a permanent resident and has citizenship in New Zealand. He is entitled to stay here as much as any other Kiwi.

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  19. Re: Justice by c6gunner · · Score: 1

    Ah, that grand old time when the US armed and supplied the Soviet Union.

    FTFY

  20. Re:Justice by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    He's a permanent resident, not a citizen.

    He also lied on his residency application about past criminal convictions.

  21. And in other news by BrookSmith · · Score: 1

    And in other news the FBI has walked free for the illegal confiscation of electronic equipment belonging to megaupload, what Business does the NSA and New Zealands GCSB have investigating copyright fraud - none, the reason these agencies were involved and the reason there was such a heavy handed approach to the investigation, and the reason the equipment was confiscated is because there was some sort of politically damaging material on there, of a very sensitive nature, so sensitive that they simply couldn't ask Kim to take it down, because then he would know what it was. A corrupt Bureaucracy covering up its trail.

  22. compare to PornHub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    trying to figure out the difference between MegaUpload and PornHub... .... other than PornHub probably has more dirt on the cops and politicians who would enforce the copyright laws against them.

  23. Outsmarting Government by Jodka · · Score: 1

    This is what happens when you try to outsmart the corporate media complex:

    Kim Dotcom: I thought of a clever way to make money from copyright violations without violating copyright law myself. Aren't I smart.
    Media Companies: You are guilty whether you broke the law or not because we bought government.
    Kim: Oooops.

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  24. Re:Attention trumptards by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

    That you did
    I remind the pussy Trumptards, AMERICA voted HILLARY
    Dirt voted Trump.

  25. Re: Justice by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 3, Informative

    As opposed allowed the Nazis to rule for 1000 years?
    Was a good deal. Saved us the 23 million lives the Russians lost saving the world

  26. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He just got married though, doesn't that make him a citizen?

  27. Re:Justice by MoaDweeb · · Score: 2

    I stand corrected, he is a permanent resident not a citizen.
    However in his campaign to not be sent to Uncle Sam he has achieved the following:

    - Had the NZ Police pay him unspecified damages for unreasonable use of force in the initial raid
    - That the FBI has no right to the information handed to him by the NZ Govt
    - The GCSB (local unaccountable spy agency) gave an apology for spying on him which they cannot as a NZ resident.
    - Yesterday had the A-G found to be breaching his privacy.

    He certainly has kept the NZ lawyer community in business.

     

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  28. Re:Justice by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    He also got Hone Harawera out of politics, which I suppose was a good thing.
    How he did it, by trying to buy his way in to Parliament was not a good thing.

  29. Re: Justice by c6gunner · · Score: 1

    Yep. Even better deal for the rooskies, though.

    Saved us the 23 million lives the Russians lost

    Well, at least like 1/100th of that, anyway. Commies don't fight so good. Waves of untrained farmers don't do so well against crack troops with machienguns and tanks.

    saving their own asses

    FTFY

  30. Re:Justice by jrumney · · Score: 1

    He just got married though, doesn't that make him a citizen?

    No. You don't get citizenship by marrying (at least in NZ).

  31. Re:Justice by MoaDweeb · · Score: 1

    Dotcom never stood for Parliament, as a permanent resident he cannot, he can vote though.

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  32. Re: Attention trumptards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And name calling is why she lost in the first place, glad to see you've learned absolutely nothing.

  33. Re:Justice by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    He bank rolled the internet party and the mana party

  34. Re: Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well it also proves that a far reaching foreign government can seize your assets and imprison you without a trial.

  35. Re:Justice by MoaDweeb · · Score: 1

    Absolutely, he did put his money where his mouth is, however he was never going to be an MP.
    Internet/ Mana got about half as many votes as the pro-cat murderer in the last election, inconsequential figures for both parties.

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  36. Good for him by xenobyte · · Score: 1

    The case against him is the worst case of a witchhunt since well the actual witchhunts.

    Mega Upload was a filt storage locker (bitlocker). It did not encourage piracy but didn't mind taking money from the pirates of course. Using it was free but you could buy more storage space or better bandwidth.

    If they did something wrong, so did every other part in the process, from network providers, hosting partners and server manufacturers to each and every users own ISPs. They are no more a part in any offenses than the roads criminals use to get to and from the scenes of their crimes.

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  37. Trump name calling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    on Anderson Cooper - "a waste"
    on Ruth Bader Ginsburg - "Her mind is shot"
    on Alec Baldwin - "impersonation just can't get any worse", "portrayal stinks"
    on LaVar Ball - "just a poor manâ(TM)s version of Don King, but without the hair", "Ungrateful fool!", "unaccepting of what I did for his son", "Very ungrateful!"
    on Samuel L. Jackson - "cheats"
    on Penn Jillette - "goofball atheist"
    on Bobby Jindal - "lightweight"
    on Adam Schiff - "sleazy"
    on Chuck Schumer - "Cryin' Chuck", "Fake Tears Chuck Schumer", "clown"
    on Ben Schreckinger - "major lightweight with no credibility"
    on Tony Schwartz - "Dummy writer"
    on Paul Singer - "Mr. Amnesty"
    on Tavis Smiley - "hater & racist"
    on Stuart Stevens - "a zero", "sad!", "a clown!", "can't get a job!", "arrogant", "made some of the dumbest political decisions of all time"
    on Tom Steyer - "wacky", "totally unhinged"
    on Chris Stirewalt - "dope", "really dumb puppet"
    on Meryl Streep - "Hillary flunky who lost big"
    on John Sununu - "couldn't get elected dog catcher", "dummy"
    on Don Lemon - "I never watch Don Lemon, who I once called the 'dumbest man on television!'", "a lightweight", "dumb as a rock"
    on Clare O'Connor - "dummy", "dummy writer"
    on Frank Luntz - "a total clown", "clown", "a low-class slob"
    on Alicia Machado - "disgusting (check out sex tape and past)", "a con", "my worst Miss U."
    on Rand Paul - "truly weird", "reminds me of a spoiled brat without a properly functioning brain"
    on Rick Perry - "needs a new pair of glasses", "He should be forced to take an IQ test"

    (citations with links to twitters, etc)

  38. Re: Justice by david_thornley · · Score: 1

    Do you really think it would have been nearly as easy to beat German without Soviet assistance? If most of the German Army and Air Force had been in the West? Sending weapons and stuff to the Soviet Union enabled us in the West to beat Germany relatively economically.

    The Soviets built most of their own weapons anyway, and weren't going to be defeated by the Germans. (The most dangerous time for the Soviet Union was before significant help had reached the Red Army.) After that, the person who controlled who got what of Europe was Hitler, by moving forces to face whoever was the most immediate threat.

    Not supplying the Soviets would have made little difference in where the Iron Curtain fell, but it would have taken a lot longer to defeat Germany, and many more lives would have been lost.

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  39. Re:Justice by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    It doesn't matter how many party votes you get, if you win an electorate. That can happen with as little as 10,000 votes.
    If you win your electorate, less than 1% party vote can get you an extra seat to bring in a list MP, giving you 2/121 votes. The Maori part got fewer party votes in 2014 than Internet MANA, but scored 2 seats because they won an electorate. Kim's deal with Hone meant one of his list MP's - Laila Harre - would be first in line.

    Laila Harre was bought and paid for my Kim Dotcom. She refused the position when first ask. Then suddenly changed her mind after a personal meeting with Kim.

  40. Re: Justice by c6gunner · · Score: 1

    Do you really think it would have been nearly as easy to beat German without Soviet assistance?

    Yes.

    If most of the German Army and Air Force had been in the West?

    That's a different question. They weren't in the west. Regardless of what the Russians did, Hitler - despite having a treaty with the Russians - made the idiotic mistake of splitting up his forces. As soon as he did that the Allied victory was assured. Supplying the Russians so that they could fight made sense, but even without their assistance Berlin was still doomed.

  41. Re: Justice by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

    Oh? And WHICH army was first into Berlin, Capitalist lap dog?
    Looks like the "Commies" did a HELL of a job with castoff weapons and better logistics.
    Might do you some good to learn some history for once

  42. Re: Justice by c6gunner · · Score: 1

    Well, sure thing, Ivan; when you're willing to throw away the lives of 20 million of your people in order to defeat 5 million Germans, it's no surprise that you make it to Berlin first. That doesn't make you a great general, or make your people great fighters; as your comrade Stalin once said, quantity has a quality all it's own.

  43. Re: Justice by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

    An army with every third man armed with a bolt action rifle and 5 rounds will lose more men
    That the MEN were willing to die in order to kill Nazis tells you much about how much more moral they were compared to those who call Nazis the equal of antifa,Though it is the fascists who murdered 17 people for political reasons JUST THIS YEAR.
    Antifa have killed none.

  44. Re: Justice by c6gunner · · Score: 1

    Ah, I see the problem here. You're a card carrying ANTIFA member which means you meet all of the requirements for membership ... the first of which a room temperature IQ.

    Carry on, then.

  45. Re: Justice by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

    So the problem is that you are an apologist for the failed Fascist system.
    Cranio-rectal intesseption getting in the way of learning is it?
    So sorry for you.

  46. Re: Justice by c6gunner · · Score: 1

    No, sweetheart, I just don't like the idea with replacing one type of mindless fanatic with another. The only difference between you and a fascist is the people and ideas which you target; your tactics and your end-goals of suppression of thought and ideological purity are otherwise identical.

  47. Re: Justice by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

    And yet, here you are cheering for a false claim against the highly successful Russian Red Army.
    I remind you, 100% of fascists believe in Military power first, morality second
    That's your mirror calling child