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Ecuador Cutting Off WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange's Communications Outside London Embassy (suntimes.com)

The government of Ecuador said on Wednesday it has cut off internet access in its embassy in London to Julian Assange, the founder of the whistleblowing site WikiLeaks, saying that he was putting the country's international relations at risk. In a statement released on Wednesday, Ecuador said that the step had been taken because Assange had failed to abide by an agreement not to interfere in the South American country's relations with other states. From a report: As part of an agreement between Assange and the Ecuadorean government, he is not permitted to send any messages that could interfere with the South American nation's relations with other countries. Assange has been living in Ecuador's embassy for more than five years.

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  1. Now, he is in prison by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If he has no means to communicate with the outside world or to travel freely...that's the definition of incarceration. Finally.

    1. Re:Now, he is in prison by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Someone like Assange will go stir-crazy without net access. He'll have to resort to having memory cards smuggled in and out. I wonder how they plan to keep him away from cell phones? Confiscation of guest phones and periodic room sweeps?

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    2. Re:Now, he is in prison by bobbied · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He can walk out the front door anytime he wishes...

      (sarc)Trading the Gilded cage in the embassy for a British jail cell? Yea, he's "free" to choose. (/sarc)

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    3. Re:Now, he is in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      You do know that the US currently does not, nor has ever had an extradition order on him, right?

    4. Re:Now, he is in prison by Archtech · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You do know that the US currently does not, nor has ever had an extradition order on him, right?

      Nor, AFAIK, on any of the people languishing (if that's the word I'm looking for) in Guantanamo.

      So what?

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    5. Re:Now, he is in prison by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He is probably too paranoid for cell phones. He will also need to actually trust people for memory card swap.

      He is a prisoner of his own device.

      Welcome to the Hotel Ecuador UK

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    6. Re:Now, he is in prison by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Guantanamo is a military prison, so to end up there, you must somehow get detained by our military. This isn't a discussion on if you agree with it or not, simply a statement on how you end up there. Since our military is not currently involved in combat operations within the UK, Assanage would not end up there.

      This would be nice if it were true. However, several of the Guantanamo Bay detainees were arrested in countries where the US didn't have military combat operations, and brought to Afghanistan for bounty. Adel Noori is perhaps the most famous case.

    7. Re:Now, he is in prison by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Interesting

      British Judges and several Assange supporters would disagree with you, as his bail backers lost their 300,000 GBP bail sureties (in total) when he skipped bail and took up residence in the embassy...

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...

    8. Re:Now, he is in prison by lactose99 · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is about the only situation where IP over carrier pigeon might be reasonably successful.

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    9. Re:Now, he is in prison by Tough+Love · · Score: 3, Informative

      (sarc)Trading the Gilded cage in the embassy for a British jail cell? Yea, he's "free" to choose. (/sarc)

      That is what happens to people who jump bail.

      What confuses me is, the penalty for skipping bail is not particularly extreme. So why not just take his lumps and be done with it?

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    10. Re:Now, he is in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, several million pounds to capture a non-violent bail jumping non-citizen who won't spend a day in a British jail (he'd be deported to his home country for essentially a misdemeanor) while tens of thousands of actual British bail jumping criminals including murderers, rapists, child abusers, thieves, etc. go free and continue break the law because the local police departments don't have the resources to track them down. Yeah, that makes sense.

      And there is no abuse of "diplomatic rules". Ecuador granted Assange political asylum because it concluded that he was being politically persecuted and that the Swedish and British charges against him was a ruse to extradite him to the US where he would be illegally charged with crimes and would not receive a fair trial. Under international law which has been upheld by a ruling of the UN, Ecuador had every right to do that.

    11. Re:Now, he is in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Guantanamo is a military prison, so to end up there, you must somehow get detained by our military. This isn't a discussion on if you agree with it or not, simply a statement on how you end up there. Since our military is not currently involved in combat operations within the UK, Assanage would not end up there.

      This would be nice if it were true. However, several of the Guantanamo Bay detainees were arrested in countries where the US didn't have military combat operations, and brought to Afghanistan for bounty. Adel Noori is perhaps the most famous case.

      Adel has NOTHING in common with Julian, he was a suspected Al Queda member, and has a complicated history.

      d. Detainee acknowledges that if he returns to China he will face execution. He is very fearful that information about him will be passed to the Chinese government. He requests asylum in the United States.

    12. Re:Now, he is in prison by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm guessing that will include an all expense paid trip to the USA and any number of federal prisons for the majority of his remaining life

      There's not even an extradition warrant for him, why would the UK send him to the US? Why would the US even want him? Yes, he's damaged the US, but he hasn't broken any US laws.

      The only outstanding charge against Assange is related to evading arrest over the extradition to Sweden. He wont even be extradited to Sweden, he'll just have to pay a fine. The only "prison time" he'll do will be the few hours between being arrested and being released on bail.

      Honestly, at this point his reasons for not leaving the embassy amount to extreme paranoia on his part.

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    13. Re:Now, he is in prison by lucm · · Score: 3, Funny

      It would require a good antivirus

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    14. Re:Now, he is in prison by lucm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Let's see. The situation is that he engaged twice in unprotected sex with girls that were asleep (which is essentially rape), then he ran away when he was accused rather than face these "unfair" accusations, then he hid in the embassy of a publicity-seeking diplomat, and remains there even though the rape charges in Sweden were abandoned because the prosecutor realized he would never appear in court to face the music before going past the statute of limitation.

      So at this point the reasons for him to remain "protected" in that embassy are:
      1) skipping bail on no longer relevant charges
      2) free food and hero status
      3) an alleged CIA conspiracy to send him to gitmo (or some other secret prison) because he took part in the leak of confidential documents under the obama administration

      You're allowed to cream over that buffoon all you want, but please let's stop pretending that there are "facts" supporting your worshipping.

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  2. Not very welcome by arth1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The current Ecuadorian government inherited Assange, and it's no secret that they don't agree with his staying at the embassy. It's not the first time they have cut his access, and overall, making it undesirable for him to stay and get him to leave on his own there is likely the overall strategy, avoiding any backlash from actually tossing him out.

    1. Re:Not very welcome by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He won't quit agitating. He is attacking people using his access and you can't blame Ecuador for getting tired of it.

  3. Re:Wifi by jolyonr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, I'm sure there's a public wifi just in reach called "NotMI5Honest" that he could use.

    Perhaps it's time for Ecuador to start charging him rent.

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  4. Grow some balls by Stan92057 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Time for him to grow some balls and have his day in court. And im sure their are some Ecuadors who are in need of the funds their government is useing to keep him alive...

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    1. Re:Grow some balls by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Considering that FISA courts do not try people I would say the chance if very good he'll never be convicted in one. FISA courts exist to grant surveillance requests.

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  5. Re:Sometimes a paranoid kook is a paranoid kook. by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For one thing, it's in weak countries' interest to have as much strife as much as possible between superpowers (US, Russia, China) as possible. If the big thugs are arguing amongst each other directly, they're less concerned about proxy wars and imperialism in places like Latin America. Keep 'em occupied and worried.

    I tend to disagree. Strife between major powers often results in proxy wars simply because teh big powers have too much to lose so they support other countries and let them fight it out. They like the idea of a little power poking the eye of their enemy, it's less risky then an all out confrontation.

    Plus, it feels good to punch up as the little guy.

    Until, of course, the big guy punches back.

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  6. Assange could easily go free by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's a simple plan where Assange could easily move outside the embassy.

    1) Create a fake Twitter account and post a really mean tweet followed by an announcement you'll be holding a parade just outside London - this will draw the entire London police force and most of the military to strike down the tweeter before he can tweet again, enabling Assange to walk out of the embassy unchallenged.

    2) Embed himself in management for an under-age rape gang, as they are immune from policing in the UK and presumably he could make a good living there.

    Of course, once free if I were him I'd stay away from park benches and BMW's given how much he has entered pretty much every government.

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  7. The worst in Slashdotters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems that the Assange topic brings out the really ugly in the Slashdot crowd: petty, bitter, cynical, superficial.

    Folks, sometimes you're really disgusting.

  8. Extradite [Re:Grow some balls] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sweden agreed to hear him at the Ecuadorian embassy, dropped the charges and now he's only wanted by the brits for jumping bail

    Statute of limitations doesn't run out in Sweden until 2020. Assange steps out of embassy, the UK police would be happy to hand him over to Sweden, where he can be interrogated for weeks without a lawyer for Wikileaks activity,

    He's not wanted in Sweden for Wikileaks activity, or anything to do with Wikileaks. It's doubtful that Sweden cares about Wikileaks one way or the other.

    He's wanted to answer questions about a rape investigation. That investigation has been dropped, though, so he's not actually wanted in Sweden at all. (Although they could resume the investigation later, if they chose to, on one of the two rape charges (the other one is past the statute of limitations).)

    because he hasn't been officially charged in the US (as Assange haters keep reminding everyone). Then deported to said US.

    He can't be deported to the US, since he's not from there in the first place. I think you mean "extradited." But even there, there hasn't (so far) been any charges, much less an extradition request.

    They've done it before: https://www.theguardian.com/co...

    that's the exact opposite-- a person extradited to Sweden.

  9. Re:Wifi by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sure. He can just contact any ISP he wants to have one installed what is considered sovereign territory of Ecuador. The country won't mind. Also all ISPs would love to get entangled in an international incident.

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  10. Re:Wifi, no need by youngone · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've been talking to the Ecuadorian tech guys and they have just changed the wifi SSID to GoHomeNowJulian and the password is Solo ve a casa, podrías.
    I don't think he's getting the hint.

  11. Re:Wifi by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is a common myth. An embassy is not treated in law as part of the sending state. Rather, the privileges enjoyed by an embassy and its personnel are only those provided by the receiving state's laws implementing the Vienna Convention; outside of the privileges that the Vienna Convention provides, the receiving state's laws still apply, and the land still remains part of the receiving state's territory.

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  12. Re: Wifi by lucm · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, being waterboarded at Gitmo and then executed for "treason" is how people embrace life. Bold words, AC.

    This is the most retarded comment I've read today, and yet I just spent the last half hour on 4chan.

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