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Amazon is Burying Sexy Books, Sending Erotic Novel Authors to the 'No-Rank Dungeon' (vice.com)

Samantha Cole, reporting for Motherboard: In the last few days, word has spread among independent erotica authors on social media that Amazon was quietly changing its policies for erotic novels. Five authors I spoke to, and several more on social media, have reported that their books were stripped of their best seller rankings -- essentially hiding them from casual browsing on the site, and separating them from more mainstream, safe-for-work titles.

[...] Most people browsing Amazon books might not notice or care about the best seller rank -- a number that's based on how well the title is selling on Amazon.com -- but it's part of an algorithm that influences how the book appears in search, and whether it shows up in advertisements, including suggestions from one product to the next ("If you like this book, you might like this book"). For independent authors and booksellers, this ranking is hugely important for visibility.

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  1. I'm OK with this... by Kenja · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I search for books on dinosaurs, I don't really want to see a "romance" title about a guy and a t-rex having sex.

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    1. Re:I'm OK with this... by ElRabbit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It will be OK until Amazon decides that book on dinosaur may be offending for a certain category of people (fundamentalist) and then send them down the drain too. Hidding erotic book is just the first step to send us back to Middle Age

    2. Re:I'm OK with this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you read up on the "slippery slope fallacy", they'll usually list it as a "potential fallacy", as if what someone says it could lead to does in fact happen, then the original argument was in fact not a fallacy. For example, if the government says that they want to monitor all internet traffic to look for child porn, and I say it needs to be disallowed because they might use it to monitor all citizens, officially that's a slippery slope fallacy, but then you hear about PRISM, and it turns out my argument may not have been such a slippery slope after all.

      Basically, dismissing an argument based on "slippery slope" really isn't a valid dismissal in any case except the most outlandish slippery slopes. If it's possible, it must be considered.

    3. Re:I'm OK with this... by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Only if your entire history is less than 50 years old.

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  2. Re:Nothing to see here.... by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No one is claiming it's a 2nd amendment or free speech issue. The issue here is that Amazon is such a dominant force for modern literature that authors are now pretty much beholden to whatever whims they decide to act upon.

    Author Jenny Trout had every book in her contemporary erotic romance series The Boss (written under the pen name Abigail Barnette) stripped of its rank and reclassified to remove it from the Romance category. She told me in an email that Amazon is “the bread and butter of every indie out there.” She says she sold half a million copies through Amazon in a three-year period, compared to 35,000 at every other retailer combined. Her series was de-ranked without warning or explanation.

    “There's no way for an indie author to make a living without Amazon, so whatever nonsense they decide they're pulling this month is just one other thing we've got to put up with,” Trout said. “And that sucks, but they're a private business and they get to do what they want, so we can only really complain from a consumer standpoint. It's not censorship, it's just a big bullshit hassle, so there's really no recourse for us.”

    I'm not some anti-Amazon crusader by any means, but it's always a little worrisome for a single entity to become as dominant as they've become in so many areas, because when this sort of thing happens, there's literally no recourse for people, and no real way for market forces to make corrections.

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  3. Re:Nothing to see here.... by BlazeMiskulin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People seem to forget that Amazon is a private business. They can do whatever they want. [...] Not shown in Amazon searches.... nothing to see here... move along.

    Nobody has said anything about the First Amendment--which you are jumping onto with a strawman.

    Just because they're a private business doesn't mean they're immune to criticism.

    People are complaining that this private business is behaving in a way which is detrimental to the livelihood of their suppliers, and convenience of their customers. This IS something worth discussing--so that suppliers and customers know what's happening and can make knowledgeable business and purchasing decisions.