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Microsoft's Longtime Windows Boss Terry Myerson To Leave the Company Amid a Huge Executive Reorganization (businessinsider.com)
Terry Myerson, Microsoft's executive vice president of Windows and a long-time leader at Microsoft, is leaving the company, the company said today. The news comes as part of a big reshuffling of the company's executive leadership. From a report: "His strong contributions to Microsoft over 21 years from leading Exchange to leading Windows 10 leave a real legacy. I want to thank Terry for his leadership on my team and across Microsoft," wrote Nadella in an e-mail to employees announcing the changes. As part of the reorganization, Rajesh Jha, the executive VP of Microsoft Office products, will be expanding his responsibilities to encompass Myerson's role when he leaves in "the coming months." Jha will become the leader of a group called "Experiences & Devices," bringing Windows and Office under a single banner. "The purpose of this team is to instill a unifying product ethos across our end-user experiences and devices," writes Nadella. "Computing experiences are evolving to include multiple senses and are no longer bound to one device at a time but increasingly spanning many as we move from home to work and on the go."
"The purpose of this team is to instill a unifying product ethos across our end-user experiences and devices,", translation: We'll fuck up the Windows 10 UI even more.
Sounds like a move to make all MS leadership Indian as much as anything else....?
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Seeing the usual canned non-responses always makes me wonder what the real story is. Is Terry responsible for the idiotic strategy that made Windows 10 the most hated version of windows ever?
It must be Thursday.
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I don't know about Microsoft but around here when one area gets an Indian manager suddenly all the people reporting to him are Indian and all the former non-Indian people are shuffled off to other departments. Just something I've observed time and time again where I work.
Sounds like a move to make all MS leadership Indian as much as anything else....?
All of Microsoft will soon be doing the needful.
Myerson was a solid dev leader. He was "acquired" when Microsoft bought his analytics startup. Now he is being replaced by an established app/cloud guy. I do not see this as a positive indication, but it is consistent with Nadella's overall direction for the company.
I have no idea what it was like to work with him personally, so maybe it's something like that. But if decision reflects the corporate direction, then the telemetry/data issues with Windows 10 will probably grow.
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Yep, that's the reason I commented....this is not uncommon to see happen.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Working so far.
Microsoft has done an about-face under Nadella and is finding a very profitable niche in business services. They're bigger than google in cloud services and are still the king of desktop productivity.
Microsoft's biggest problem is Microsoft. For decades they've depended on the classic office-windows pro-windows server triad and their entire profitable business was built around it.
And it's a boat anchor. It's loaded with upfront costs, staffing costs. Maintenance costs. Real estate costs. Power costs. Hardware depreciation. Inventory. Hell even needing a server room is a pain in the ass. Yes, having an internal enterprise network is the "old" way of doing things, quickly going the way of the mainframe.
The problem with the above is Microsoft is structured like a bunch of internal competing entities and those centered around the "old way" don't want to let go of their power and marketshare within Microsoft. This schism manifests itself in a number of ways. Microsoft' notoriously awful licensing (Did you know you can literally get a certification in Microsoft licensing? Yes. 6 months of training just so you can figure out how to properly purchase Microsoft software) Products canceled soon after launch.
Most obviously - Remote desktop. The would is SCREAMING for Microsoft to sell an easy to use private cloud-hosted windows desktop you can remotely access (And remotely administer in a group) Imagine spinning up an office complete with your software stack with a few clicks. Anywhere in the world with internet access and with any device that has a keyboard/mouse that can run an app.
Microsoft would literally print money. Nothing is holding this back but microsoft, because the 'old' division would be made largely obsolete overnight.
Yep, saw that at a Siemens plant I worked at. Wondered the same thing when I read Jha was replacing him.
The only way Microsoft could reorganize properly is if they split vertically. The only way they could improve is by a total rewrite using decent coding standards and published APIs. None of which is likely under any administration.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
I guess everyone wants their own people working for them. When White people do it it's called racist (and rightfully so), but when Indians do it no one seems to care.
Over yet another move away from "Windows Uber Alles"...
And it's a boat anchor. It's loaded with upfront costs, staffing costs. Maintenance costs. Real estate costs. Power costs. Hardware depreciation. Inventory. Hell even needing a server room is a pain in the ass.
It's only mildly popular because people are obsessed with cash flow and right now. Still way cheaper in the long run for many vs. going with any of the major hosting providers. That's just a fact.
If hosting outfits could somehow successfully leverage economies of scale and pass it on such that it were actually cheaper than DYI that would be one thing. The reality is virtually all of the hardware and software systems are universal commodities. There is very little to be gained when you need to actually use a substantial portion of resources and possibility of quite a lot of overhead needing capabilities and features that small operators can get away without.
That happened everywhere I've ever worked. My first job out of college was in Seattle in 1986. We hired an India VP of Engineering, and within a year the twenty white programmers besides myself were all fired or driven out. In many places where I worked, it was demoralizing to not be allowed vacation time, but the Indian guys all got 2 or more weeks a year off to go back to India. Eventually that gets to you. I haven't had a full week off as of next month in 25 years.
One big difference is culture. The vast majority of white guys I worked with weren't married. They had no one else to help them when working 80+ hours a week. Almost all of the Indian guys were married, and their spouses did a great job of supporting them. Bringing in lunch or dinner several times a week is nice.
"As part of the reorganization, Rajesh Jha, the executive VP of Microsoft Office products, will be expanding his responsibilities to encompass Myerson's role..."
Apparently Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella wants people who are as lacking in social, managerial, and technical ability as he is. Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella is NOT competent. The entire board of directors and top management of Microsoft should be replaced, in my opinion.
One area of extreme incompetence: Somehow, shockingly, managers at Microsoft decided that it is okay to spy on Windows OS computer users in the same way that Google spies on cell phone users using the Android operating system. (One of the many stories about Google spying: Google collects Android users' locations even when location services are disabled.)
Microsoft and Windows cannot be trusted. Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made.
Desktop computers users often have a HUGE need for COMPLETE privacy. Microsoft has damaged its already very poor reputation.
One of the MANY articles about Microsoft's EXTREME ABUSE: 7 ways Windows 10 pushes ads at you... (You may be able to stop the ads until Microsoft finds other ways to control your computers.) The effect: Microsoft wants companies to pay for Microsoft distracting employees with ads.
Wholeheartedly agree. I'd even see with good eyes the existence of a free Windows version paid for by spying users (a la Google/Facebook) and a nice one paid for with money like it used to be in the old days. If it had none of the bad things they added in 10 and the 7 UI I'd pay for it in a heartbeat
Plus in Seattle you can only get dial up Internet. Thanks, greenwow.
>>it was demoralizing to not be allowed vacation time, but the Indian guys all got 2 or more weeks a year off to go back to India
Yeah that happens here too. You're discouraged from taking long vacations, especially if it's at a critical time, but the Indian guys can take off for almost a month to go back to India. If it's ever questioned there's always some sort of sob story (he needs to go back and take care of a sick relative or he needs to go back and attend to family business). Funny enough, when they come back they're all smiles with lots of pictures of various parties they went to. I guess the sick relative got better immediately and they had nothing else to do the entire trip but party? Maybe that was the important family business they had to attend to?
He's not wrong. It happens at a lot of companies when an Indian takes over the top spot.
Thanks greenwow for your affirmation.
Great, now we'll get *yet another* GUI API that is *really* universal, this time we mean it!
Land of the free, home of the burned-out?
I have done the needful.
So, Windows 10 is the least odious from a usability standpoint (leaving privacy aside for a moment) of the last four releases [1], and they ax the Windows boss? It's almost like Microsoft wants their users to suffer.
[1] I'm counting 8.1 as a major release, as it was marketed as such, even though it changed the UI in only the most trivial fashion.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
The CEO is supposed to coordinate everything done by all groups in the company. That isn't happening.
Microsoft has suffered a HUGE LOSS OF RESPECT because of making Windows 10 into spyware.
One of the many, many articles: 17 Windows 10 problems - and how to fix them (Dec. 1, 2017). There have been MANY terrible problems since then. One example: Windows 10 bug: Microsoft fixes issue that broke USB, built-in cameras, keyboards (Mar. 6, 2018)
Do you see any competence in that?
> I guess shut up, keep your head down and toe the party is all you need to become an executive at a place like Microsoft or Google. No actual skill needed.
Isn't that either the:
* Peter Principle aka "managers rise to the level of their incompetence" or
* Dilbert Principle aka "companies tend to systematically promote their least competent employees to management in order to limit the amount of damage they can do"
I think it eventually happens to any big company.
"Nothing is holding this back but microsoft,"
Do you really expect MS to just drop their legacy products and services and move all their resources into a totally product line? They will support their desktop and server products until they are no longer profitable and not a minute sooner. They are fortunate to have such a long standing cash cow because it has enabled them to invest in other technologies and even take loses on the products or services that didn't pan out for one reason or another. And MS is slowly making the pivot into a different line of products and services. They are the number one contributor of open source software over the past 5 years. They have figured out how to incorporate GPL software and services with their traditionally proprietary offerings. MS has always understood that catering towards developers leads to more applications and more applications is what it is all about. People standing around touting the superiority of their particular OS should spend more time building applications for their superior OS. Meanwhile Apple is still using over priced proprietary hardware and software while hoping people will continue to purchase iPhones X, 11, 12, 13,14, 15, etc.. to generate enough profits to hide their poor performance in all the other sectors. Apple started off life using a proprietary approach to building and selling PC products and services while MS started off utilizing the commodity model of both hardware and software offerings. It was the iPod and a bridge loan from Bill Gates that kept Apple a viable company until the iPod basically brought Apple back from the dead.
more people speak Hindi than speak English.
When I got my current laptop, I opened up Minesweeper, and immediately saw that I could purchase a version without ads. That was a shock. I think my Minesweeper days may be over.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Agreed. Talk about racism and favoritism!
And don't y'all go go off dismissing this observation. Let's call it like it is.
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
Companies ruined or almost ruined by Indians
Adaptec - Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
Apple - R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
Apple - Foreign guest worker "Helen" Hung Ma caused the disastrous MobileMe product rollout.
Australia's National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
Caymas - Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
Dell - call center (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Delta call centers (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Fannie Mae- Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty.
GM - Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
Microsoft - Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it's lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
Microsoft - Lian Yang, Microsoft-Contracted Engineer, Arrested in Smuggling Plot After Another FBI Sting in Portland in 2010
MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
Qantas - See AirBus above
Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
Skype ( Yarlagadda fired)
State of Indiana $867 billion FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
State of Texas failed IBM project.
Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, has to be sold off to Oracle).
United - call center (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
Visium Asset Management - Sanjay Valvani Insider trading
World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).
Casteism