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Two Studies Find 'Clear Evidence' That Cellphone Radiation Causes Cancer In Rats (qz.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Quartz: [A] pair of studies by the U.S. National Toxicology Program found "clear evidence" that exposure to radiation caused heart tumors in male rats, and found "some evidence" that it caused tumors in the brains of male rats. (Both are positive results; the NTP uses the labels "clear evidence," "some evidence," "equivocal evidence" and "no evidence" when making conclusions.) Tumors were found in the hearts of female rats, too, but they didn't rise to the level of statistical significance and the results were labeled "equivocal;" in other words, the researchers couldn't be sure the radiation is what caused the tumors. The next scientific step will be to determine what this means for humans. The peer-reviewed papers will be passed on to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, which is responsible for determining human risk and issuing any guidelines to the public, and the Federal Communications Commission, which develops safety standards for cell phones. The FDA was part of the group of federal agencies who commissioned the studies back in the early 2000s.

Ronald Melnick, the NTP senior toxicologist who designed the studies (and who retired from the agency in 2009), says it's unlikely any future study could conclude with certainty that there is no risk to humans from cell phone use. "I can't see proof of a negative ever arising from future studies," Melnick says. He believes the FDA should put out guidance based on the results of the rat studies. "I would think it would be irresponsible to not put out indications to the public," Melnick says. "Maintain a distance from this device from your children. Don't sleep with your phone near your head. Use wired headsets. This would be something that the agencies could do right now."
Quartz notes that when the draft results were published earlier this year, all the results were labeled "equivocal," meaning the study authors felt the data weren't clear enough to determine if the radiation caused the health effects or not. "But the panel of peer reviewers (among them brain and heart pathologists, toxicologists, biostaticians, and engineers) re-evaluated the data and upgraded several of the conclusions to 'some evidence' and 'clear evidence.'"

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  1. Longer lifespan by XXongo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The summary neglects to mention that the strongest result of the one study was that the rats exposed to microwave radiation had SIGNIFICANTLY longer lifepans than the ones not exposed.

    Somehow I would have thought that this result was worth mentioning.

    1. Re:Longer lifespan by sheramil · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The study also neglects to mention if the rats were exposed to human-scaled phones, or, more appropriately in my view, tiny rat-sized ones, with tiny tiny touch sensitive screens and incredibly tiny headphone jacks.

      What this study may indicate is that it's bad for humans to be around phones the size of your refrigerator.

    2. Re:Longer lifespan by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "The study also neglects to mention if the rats were exposed to human-scaled phones, or, more appropriately in my view, tiny rat-sized ones, with tiny tiny touch sensitive screens and incredibly tiny headphone jacks."

      You show your age, gramps, not even rat-phones have headphone jacks nowadays.

    3. Re:Longer lifespan by ByteSlicer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The summary neglects to mention that the strongest result of the one study was that the rats exposed to microwave radiation had SIGNIFICANTLY longer lifespans than the ones not exposed.

      Indeed, and it is well known that longer lifespan strongly correlates with more cancer.
      The RF radiation probably slightly increases body temperature, which helps fight off infections, leading to longer life, leading to age-related cancer.

      Also, dupe, by the same guy.

    4. Re:Longer lifespan by Misagon · · Score: 3, Informative

      That would make sense, actually ...

      Radio waves have been used to promote wound healing. It was mentioned in the earlier thread discussing the pre-publication draft of this study.

      I know of a study in which simulated cell phones were shown to promote the frequency and growth of tumours in mice that had been deliberately given cancer. That study confirms an earlier study. What would make this more credible is that this group's job in general has been to replicate junk science about RF to prove it wrong.
      The point here is that small tumours that have been caused by other sources than cell phones are more likely to survive the onslaught of the body's immune system and be able to grow to become life-threatening.

      I'm just posting these here for further discussion. I'm not a physician or biologist myself, and not a kook either. So don't shoot the messenger, OK?! Do let those who are knowledgeable enough to comment something useful comment instead.

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  2. Who's the asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    who keeps buying cell phones for rats!?

  3. Re:Non-ionizing radiation can be harmful by iggymanz · · Score: 3, Informative

    not quite true, heating sufficiently can break chemical bonds. For example, a well known consequence of working around military radar equipment is higher than average rate of tumors in eye and testicles.

    Cell phones obviously can heat tissue, a little.

  4. Hm... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Looking at the data they released, I think the "equivocal" conclusion was more honest. It doesn't look like the tumor incidence results would survive correction for multiple comparisons.

    The findings that do look like they remain significant are that the male rats exposed to RF survived longer. It doesn't appear that the study was long enough to see significance in the female rats, but they were also showing that tendency.

    The tumor results are complicated by that longer survival as well. They don't look like they were corrected for that effect.

    1. Re:Hm... by pghmike4 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      They sacrificed the rats at 105 weeks in the table I was looking at, when looking for tumors.

      But the majority of the examples I saw showed fewer rats with tumors at 6W of exposure than at 0W. The numbers were all pretty small, and the total number of male rats (the one study I looked at) was something like ~100.

      In virtually no tumor example did the # of tumors go up with the radiation exposure.

  5. Ducks quack too, that doesn't make them Luddites. by az-saguaro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Every time this subject comes up, somebody says the same foolish things. Looking at studies like this does not make one a Luddite. On the contrary, it seems that there are those with a rabid zealous passion to defend the technology whatever the cost, science be damned.

    First common mistake - "blah blah blah, it's not ionizing". True. High frequency, high energy bands, UV and gamma, cause ionization and they damage DNA and cause cancer. Radar, radio, mm - they are not ionizing, but they do have other effects on cells. Mechanisms at the cytosolic, nucleosomic, and cytoskeletal levels are not well characterized, but the gross effects are well known, even used therapeutically and as research tools on cell cultures. There are many causes of malignant transformation in cells, including non-biological vectors such as chemicals and even direct physical energy transfer (trauma - momentum & kinetic energy). Low frequency EM might not be unequivocally proven to cause cancer, but it does unequivocally stimulate cell proliferation and migration, necessary prodromes of malignant transformation.

    Two - do the math. Remember, the inverse square law. Watts by themselves do not mean much. Field or flux must be known. So, using your examples, and knowing that surface of a sphere is 4 x pi x r-squared, and doing some rough rounded off calculations:

    Cell phone, 0.6 watts at your ear, 4 inches or 10 cm from center of your brain - that is a flux of about 0.6 w / 1200 cm-sq = 0.0005 or half a milliwatt per cm-sq.
    Radio tower, 50K watts 500 feet away from your house (in which is the center of your brain) - that is a flux of about 50K w / 2.7B cm-sq = 0.00002 milliwatt per cm-sq.
    You cell phone thus has about 25 times more exposure per given time than that radio tower.
    If you spent one hour talking on your cell phone, it would impart the same energy exposure to your pituitary or pons as living 500 feet away from the tower for a whole day.

    "Long term epidemiological studies have shown that non-ionizing radiation has no observable health hazard . . ." You might be correct about that, and that ultimately is what matters for public health, but that does not negate that there are biological effects of radio frequency. Hot water burns and can kill, but that does not mean we shoudn't have hot water heaters and take baths or cook food. It just means that hot water at home must be used responsibly and safely. That is what research like this ultimately gets at. Do not derogate something as "quack science" until you actually know the full "spectrum" of the science.

  6. "Cell phone"? Bluetooth? Wifi? 2.4ghz? 5ghz? by iamhassi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When they say "cellphones cause cancer" what exactly are they talking about? Do Bluetooth headsets cause problems? What about wifi? Is 2.4ghz safer than 5ghz? Should we tell the kids they can't have their iPads? What about wireless controllers, should kids go back to wired controllers? I sleep 2 feet from my phone, is that far enough? This article is short on details but big on fearmongering.

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  7. Re:DEJA VU by Mr0bvious · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's proof that cell phones cause Deja Vu.

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  8. Re:All EM Waves Interact by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Simply probability outcomes like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?.... You alter one of those pegs and the outcome alters. Cell division is not like making a cheese sandwich, that outcome counting millions of moleculeshttps://michaelgr.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/how-many-atoms-to-encode-the-human-genome/ in the correct sequence, must replicate in the correct sequence, otherwise bad things might happen, dependent upon which part of the sequence was in error.

    So damage could be routine but the bit of DNA damage is the bit that defines the shape of you nose, buried in DNA in bit of skin in your big toe and you toe does not care what the DNA instructions are for your nose. The more damage, the more pegs altered, the more likely a specific range of DNA damage is going to occur, the ones which prevent bad cell death (dysfunctional cells should self destruct) and allow unhindered cell replication (instead of just replacing a dying cell breeding out of control, sort of like those crazy religious sects, hmm, is that why they call them a cancer on human society) and of course not be rejected by the immune system (too much DNA damage and the cell no longer recognised).

    In fact every single rat could have suffered genetic damage just that the cells died, the cells did not reproduce, the cells were eaten by the immune system, the damage did not impact the functionality of that cell (watch out though more errors can accumulate). The older the more likely as basically you keep rolling dice and eventually you get bad numbers. Alter the dice, induce a bias for negative outcomes and you will likely get negative outcomes sooner. Yep, cell replication is the trigger for cancer and lots of stuff can alter that probability outcome, the more antagonists to successful cell replication, the sooner you get a negative outcome.

    Suck it up baby, life itself is a dice roll or at least a random variability outcome during cell reproduction, sometimes shit happens. You strive to improve those odds, rather than making them worse.

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  9. Re:DEJA VU by Pseudonym · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes. There is clear evidence that research causes cancer in rats.

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