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Fedora 28 Beta Linux Distro is Finally Here (betanews.com)

Posted by msmash on from the for-the-testers dept.

An anonymous reader writes: Today, version 28 of the Fedora finally achieves beta status. After a short delay -- it was scheduled to be available a week earlier -- the distro is back on track, and looking better than ever. As is typical now, there are three versions of the operating system -- Atomic Host, Server, and Workstation. While all three have their places, normal desktop computer users will want to focus on Workstation. While there are plenty of new features (and bugs), the most exciting aspect of Fedora 28 Workstation is the inclusion of the GNOME 3.28 desktop environment.

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  1. Fedora Beta Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    3 words that go together pretty well

    1. Re:Fedora Beta Linux by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      Windows 7 was at least beta quality. But 10 was a regression.

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    2. Re:Fedora Beta Linux by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      3 words that go together better: systemd free edition.

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    3. Re:Fedora Beta Linux by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I don't know whether this should be +1 funny or -1 thinks it's still 1997.

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  2. Exciting? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ”While there are plenty of new features (and bugs), the most exciting aspect of Fedora 28 Workstation is the inclusion of the GNOME 3.28 desktop environment.”

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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    1. Re:Exciting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The DNF system, the management of RPM's, has been twisted and destabilized by continuing to use "Recommands" to try and outsmart the system admin.It's a backwards incompatible change and breaks many RPM's for recompilation to older operating systems. I'm afraid that dnf is suffering the same creeping featuritis that systemd suffers from.

      The switch to python 3 as the default is also in progress, which is a good idea but is destabilizing a lot of stable, older python programs which are not python 3 compatible.

    2. Re:Exciting? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The switch to python 3 as the default is also in progress, which is a good idea but is destabilizing a lot of stable, older python programs which are not python 3 compatible.

      Do we need to give them another decade to get Python 3 compatibility in place? I could see how just ten short years to make these changes might be rushing things a bit.

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    3. Re:Exciting? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      I've looked at this myself. There is no chance of making old Python 2 code compatible with Python 3, especially older and unmaintained code, even if it is stable. Upgrading all python code in Fedora to be Python 3 based is possible, though it's a long-term upgrade effortt than just one Fedora release. I'd be curious about when Python 2 will be abandoned and attempts to publish packages with both python2 and python3 versions will end.

    4. Re:Exciting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Python 2 upstream EOL is 2 years away. The "2to3" script does a pretty large part of the conversion effort for most codebases to switch to python3.

    5. Re:Exciting? by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not having backward compatability with yourself does not inspire confidence in a language. There is really no excuse for it. Why not just have a python 2 compiler that compiles for the Python 3 VM. There is really no excuse for not having backward compatability and for a fork for 3.

    6. Re:Exciting? by tonique · · Score: 1

      It's as exciting as waiting for the next flare-up of inflammatory bowel disease.

    7. Re:Exciting? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Like Ubuntu there are spinoffs with Mate and I think Cinnamon.

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    8. Re:Exciting? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      It like Windows XP. It will never go away

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  3. What a crap article by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 4, Informative

    Release announcement.

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  4. Exciting gnome .. by aliquis · · Score: 2

    Yeah.. gnome.. 3 .. .28. Exciting.

    Window managers got much less exciting when they tried to look like Windows 95.

    KDE 3 seemed somewhat exciting and I haven't used either for long so I shouldn't really comment but .. I guess I wouldn't have much reason to be excited.

    1. Re:Exciting gnome .. by hduff · · Score: 1

      KDE 3 seemed somewhat exciting and I haven't used either for long so I shouldn't really comment but .. I guess I wouldn't have much reason to be excited.

      I really liked KDE1, 2 and 3. I bailed on KDE4 and went to LXDE. That does what I want, gives me what I need and doesn't mess with me.

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    2. Re:Exciting gnome .. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Personally, I care about functionality a lot more than looks.

      I would have said "in any case, you can change the look easily", but these days you can't because GTK3 is a piece of shit.

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    3. Re:Exciting gnome .. by jon3k · · Score: 1

      The most interesting things are happening in the world of tiling window managers in my opinion. While that subreddit isn't exclusively for tiling window managers, it can give you an idea of some of the customization and personalization that's possible with both the look and the configuration/usability of these window managers.

  5. Re:Fuck Fedora by Stormwatch · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    It seems she shot her boyfriend. Fun fact: women commit more domestic violence against men than the other way around.

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  6. perhaps correlated with RHEL 8? by nimbius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Heres the RHEL 8 alpha branch for anaconda
    https://github.com/rhinstaller...
    As well as the commit activity...
    https://github.com/rhinstaller...

    What are the chances of a Redhat Enterprise Linux 8 release this year?

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  7. Re:Gnome? Nigga, please! by youngone · · Score: 2

    So what's the story with Gnome then?
    I'm really not trolling, and I prefer Cinnamon myself, but both Ubuntu and Redhat make Gnome their default desktop, and they must have some idea what they're doing, surely?
    I just can't see why they would push it if their users hate it so much. And yet I am yet to see much love for Gnome anywhere.

  8. Re:Fuck Fedora by ChrisMaple · · Score: 2

    Men generally don't report, so the numbers are intrinsically unavailable.

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  9. Re:But what about Systemd? by Chas · · Score: 1

    Maybe there's a real, concrete reason for the complaints.

    Especially when the software in question has infested multiple major distros and wormed its way into other software packages...

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