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YouTube Will Increase Security At All Offices Worldwide Following Shooting (theverge.com)
Following the shooting at YouTube's headquarters in San Bruno, California, yesterday, the company has announced plans to increase security at all of its offices worldwide. YouTube says this is intended to "make them more secure not only in the near term, but long-term." The Verge reports: The move reflects a growing concern in Silicon Valley that the effects of increasingly toxic and partisan online behavior may translate into violent offline actions. YouTube's statement was released through Google's Twitter account for communications; it's not clear whether Google itself will be implementing stronger security measures beyond YouTube. The shooter, 39-year-old Nasim Aghdam of San Diego, died yesterday of a self-inflicted gunshot wound after shooting and injuring three employees. From police reports, testimony from Aghdam's family members, and extensive traces of the woman's online behavior on YouTube and other platforms, we now know that Aghdam was disgruntled over the demonetizing of her videos and harm to her financial well-being.
Maybe just stop ripping off small content creators. It would probably work out cheaper than massively ramping up security.
Improving security is a good idea, however in the statement there is not a word about its content policies. Quite a few YouTube "celebreties" produce clickbait content and become "rich" and "famous".
In my opinion, YouTube shoud do more to encourage production of meaningful conent.
So they're adding more guns for their defense while deplatforming gun videos and advocating that everyone else give up their guns?
There are content creators whose existence is toxic and damaging to Youtube brand. Obviously the shooter fell into that category. Advertisers do not appreciate advertising on videos that would potentially damage their brand. Youtube has every right to downgrade or remove stuff that is damaging to their business. If you don't like it go to another platform or go direct (via your own website - and get your own advertisers).
They are, actually. But in europe it's mostly random rapes, truck rampages, grenade attacks, knife attacks, bombings, etc etc.
I feel safe knowing all i have to worry about is guns.
When a large corporation fires/lays off hundreds to thousands of employees, it's a best practice to have armed police on business campuses for a period of time (months to even years).
Giving severance pay is another best practice..
So is giving advance notice that the change is coming (actually that's a legal requirement too).
So is having a meeting and giving some kind of explanation which shows respect for the employees and a reason why the change needs to take place and isn't arbitrary.
When youtube demonetizes content without warning, what they are doing is akin to a layoff.
Youtube could have reduced the likelihood of a shooting if they had:
Given 30, 60, or even 90 days notice that demonetization was coming.
Given "severance" pay based on the content creators historical income.
* To high income earners because they've done a lot for youtube in the past and they are less likely to get angry if youtube shows respect by giving severance.
* To low income earners because *it's very cheap* and generates a lot of good will.
* Distributed a video or -better- had a live conference where they explained why demonetization was necessary (advertisers refusing to pay for content, legal exposure to risk, etc.)
* Let everyone know that there would be armed uniformed police on campus starting immediately and continuing for for an unspecified period of time.
Instead, Youtub did it in a really roughshod way, with little explanation, no to almost no advance warning, and then expected, in a country full of gun owners and regular mass shootings, that nothing bad would happen.
I've been seeing youtube content creators posting upset videos for a while now.
I don't blame Youtube for demonetizing content. I just think they ignored best practices because they didn't see it as a layoff/firing of thousands of employees. And that is part of the reason their employees were shot.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
... create your own content portal or find another one that feels you are a good fit ...
It's impossible to create your own content portal like YouTube, because creating an organization like this requires thousands of qualified specialists, billions of investment into infrastructure and promotion, governmental support on external markets, and so on and so forth.
So it does have certain responsibility towards its content creators, society in general, including international community.
Yep, adding more guns and security scanners on all the entrances to their buildings wi.e a corporate image of tolerance and harmony.
It won't give anybody the impression that they're a big bad corporation or make them even angrier.
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Remember when the worst thing about Youtube was just the rampant music piracy?
My guess is the story about a lover's quarrel probably originated from the social engineering tactic she used to gain entry to the building.
You need a license to drive a car. You need to show that you know the rules to abide by when driving, and that you have sufficient skill and knowledge to minimize the danger you pose to others when driving. This, US citizens are fine with.
But needing to show that you know the laws pertaining to gun ownership, that you understand gun safety both in usage and in storage before being allowed to own a gun, that they balk at. It boggles the mind.
You realized they just banned videos that have anything to do with guns, right?
The shhoter was a whack job, but had YouTube not "demonetized" her content,
YouTube decided that her content was worthless . . . why should they continue to give her any more money for it? She could have taken her content to anyone who thought that it was worth any money.
she would have probably lived out her life in well deserved obscurity.
I doubt it. She was a ticking time bomb, and if it wasn't YouTube, something else later would have set her off.
She needed serious mental health care. But mental heath still has this heavy stigma in the US . . . pumping your children full with Ritalin is OK . . . committing your daughter to a mental health institution is not socially acceptable.
Calling the cops is no answer . . . they are not able to legally do anything, and are not trained mental health professionals.
Ideally, this woman would have been evaluated as to her threat to herself and others, and would have received treatment.
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
You need a license to drive a car. You need to show that you know the rules to abide by when driving, and that you have sufficient skill and knowledge to minimize the danger you pose to others when driving.
You need a license to operate a vehicle on public roadways. It's a small but significant difference.
"Lack of speed can be overcome. In the worst case by patience." --Znork
it is not a public space ... it is private property... you do not have the right of free speech.
This is the part where you've got it wrong. In most of the west, if a place "becomes a regular meeting area" for the public, or an active venue of communication then regardless of whether or not it's private property free speech laws apply. In the US, there's multiple court cases on this already.
YouTube has no obligation to be open to anyone saying anything.
Except that it holds dominant marketshare, uses it's platform to crush competition right? Maybe anti-trust laws would be a better answer to this.
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Given the fact they pissed off a huge amount of their content providers lately they should have realized that it was a large enough group that something like this was not unlikely. Now that it has occurred it's a certainty that others will attempt a copy cat attack. The security they had was laughable. I guess they didn't understand that a lot of people hate them.
Indeed and when I first heard there was a shooting there my first thought was "Please don't let this be one of the gun channel people". It wasn't of course. Just a peaceful California vegan/animal rights activist nut bar angry over not enough people getting to see her homemade music and bunny rabbit videos.
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...but don't post any videos about guns.
An anti-gun company is going to add security, ie guns.
While demonetising the NRA which didn't shoot them up.
Because a vegan leftist nut job shot them up?
You don't need a license to publish a newsletter. Because one of the first 2 Amendments in the Bill of Rights protects the freedom of speech and of the press. The other one protects firearms possession.
There basically is no place in the world where is as easy to legally get a gun as in the US
Fixed that for you. Due to smuggling, it's basically equally easy to get a gun in illegally in any industrialized nation. If it weren't, we should expect there to be literally zero gun crime in countries where it is difficult or impossible to legally obtain a gun, but there is no place in the world with zero gun crime. Funny how that works out.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
Here, I'll do it for you, then I'll respond to that as well; it'll save us both a post.
Yes because somehow car accidents can't be solved by more cars they same way gun violence can.
The problem isn't gun violence, it's violence and you don't solve it by taking away guns, because there are plenty of other ways to enact violence and the violent types will use them. Similarly, you don't solve humans being inattentive, or irresponsible, or simply being human and making mistakes, by taking away cars, because there are plenty of other ways in which humans are inattentive, irresponsible, or simply human and make mistakes.
I haven't heard a single person advocate for more guns, that's just a strawman your kind put up because you know nobody will defend it, because you're the one who said it in the first place. Go argue with yourself elsewhere, you're the reason we can't have reasonable gun laws in the first place and, as long as you keep at it, we'll never have gun laws that actually work.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
"Please don't let this be one of the gun channel people". It wasn't of course. Just a peaceful California vegan/animal rights activist nut bar angry over not enough people getting to see her homemade music and bunny rabbit videos.
A vegan trans immigrant SJW, in fact. Actually, I think I'll change my sig, as the irony is humorous.
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You need a license to drive a car. You need to show that you know the rules to abide by when driving, and that you have sufficient skill and knowledge to minimize the danger you pose to others when driving. This, US citizens are fine with.
I'm not fine with it, and I'm an American citizen.
Licenses to drive are, in my opinion, a waste of money. We have traffic cops to make sure people know how to drive, so I don't know how having a piece of paper in the driver's pocket is supposed to improve things. What if a person doesn't have a license? How would anyone even know unless they broke the law? I don't care if people have licenses, I care that they follow traffic laws.
I know people would ask, how we would know people know the traffic laws before they drive? Well, we don't now. There's nothing that prevents an unlicensed driver from driving. We hear about unlicensed drivers all the time. These tend to be people that lost their license because they had a history of drunken driving, which just proves that taking a class which tells people not to drink and drive has questionable effectiveness. Another problem of unlicensed drivers are illegal aliens that want to minimize interactions with the government as that might mean they get deported. That's just a symptom of a greater problem. We saw states that tried to issue licenses to illegal aliens but that's just states giving implicit permission for people to break federal law. If the state KNOWS this person is in the country illegally and allows them to drive then the state government is aiding foreign invaders, and that sounds real close to treason to me.
We don't need licenses to drive. People should have to learn on their own how to not kill themselves while driving. I took a driver safety course in high school. That wasn't because it was required by law but because it was required by my parents. Maybe instead of licenses to drive we need parents that act like adults.
Oh, and we need states that find illegal aliens to notify the federal government. If you want safer streets then pick up all the illegal aliens that drive while having minimal knowledge of the traffic laws, or even minimal knowledge of the language spoken here. I don't care if they have a license to drive, that just tells me that the state that issued them doesn't enforce the law. If they are willing to give licenses to criminals (because entering the country without permission is a crime) then I have to wonder just how well the state enforced traffic laws.
I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
On the other hand animals which people see as "cute" could damage the brand if seen associated. So no it isn't about SJW or whatever , it is most probably in this case solely about not putting advertiser in a bind.
Right, it is not like there would be say sporting goods suppliers as advertisers, or knife manufacturers, the NRA, Gun Sellers, sellers of meat processing items, etc, etc.
Indeed. Guns are the least scary of the mass-assault options. A knife is silent, you might not know someone is stabbing people in a crowd until they stab you. A bomb is instant, you don't get to hear the first shot fired and take cover, nor can you kill, incapacitate, or restrain the bomber to prevent detonation. Vehicles are so commonplace, nobody thinks twice about one approaching a cordoned-off area (they may just be parking, or looking for room to turn around) and by the time you realize they're gonna plow through the crowd you're part of, well, it's too late to get out of the way... because you're in a crowd and, well, you can't run through people (like the vehicle can); further, even if someone does realize the vehicle is gonna drive through that crowd, what can they do? Shoot the driver? The vehicle doesn't magically stop when the driver becomes incapacitated and there's a fair chance they'll mash the gas pedal as they seize.
At least with a gun, if the first shot doesn't hit you (and there's a good chance it won't if you're in a crowd), you can take cover and protect yourself. If you're also armed, you can even stop the shooter, because you know they're there and they're making enough noise to easily locate them.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
Quite so. Note that there is absolutely nothing stopping YOU from doing a YouTube competitor. Come up with a business plan, buy (or rent) hardware, hire programmers, go to town....
Will you loan me $3 Billion to fund it until it is cash flow positive?
I should add to this that the reports and strikes can be filed for content you've had uploaded for years. e.g. Some people objected to Cody'sLab use of gunpowder for mine blasting from 2015/2016 and he's been fighting report/strike/appeals for months now.
He's on strike 2, and has made >50% of his videos private so he doesn't get thrown off the platform. This is/was legitimate and interesting content, not just "cat videos", and now it's gone.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/london-murder-rate-higher-new-york-city-first-time-surging-knife-gun-crime/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/01/south-london-stabbing-death-brings-capitals-tally-to-31-this-year
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/teenage-girls-killed-as-london-murder-rate-outstrips-new-york-for-first-time/news-story/e36a80d11985b3d72d0f9f00887f3c69
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5566689/London-murder-rate-overtakes-New-York-time-including-11-killings-just-16-days.html
All those and several more articles found on first page of search results. All these articles published in the last few days.
I'm too lazy to compose a creative sig.
No because she could have just as easily have ran over people in the parking lot with her car. Gun control will not stop violent people from finding a way to act out. It's treating a symptom and not the cause.
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So give in to a nut with a gun? Why not take away her her gun?
Did anyone even know she had a gun? Did she show criminal tendencies in the past? Or have a history of poor mental health? I'll admit to ignorance here but I saw nothing on how she got the gun. As far as I know nobody knows yet how she got the gun and therefore nobody can claim any kind of gun control would have been effective.
Gun control in Australia slashed gun crimes.
And banning bridges would prevent people from jumping from them. I see your argument but I think it's a very stupid one.
How about instead of focusing on guns and "gun crime" we look at ALL CRIME? I've seen the argument before on how banning guns would prevent people from shooting themselves in suicides. That did happen in every nation in which it was tried, but total suicides didn't go down, people just found different ways to kill themselves. The problem here was a bat guano crazy lady that wanted to inflict physical harm on people at YouTube. If we find out how she go the gun and put in place a law against it then we'll just see some other kind of violence take its place. I see in Europe it has become popular to run people over with vehicles and slash people with knives, a gun ban didn't stop that. I don't see people calling for bans on vehicles. We did see some crazy laws on the buying of knives in some nations, where now people have to show ID and sign a log to buy a pizza cutter.
Trump might be shit scared on the NRA, but the kids in the schools aren't.
I don't believe Trump is scared of the NRA, he spoke at NRA conventions before. Trump and NRA leadership don't agree on everything but they seem to get along just fine. Seems to me that the school kids are scared of the NRA. They'll talk about how the NRA will get them killed. Well the NRA runs the most popular child gun safety programs and few people even know about it. They don't emblazon the NRA logo on the gun safety program because it's not about getting members, it's about keeping kids safe in school. The Brady Campaign likes to call themselves a "gun safety" organization but where are their animated cartoons telling kids to not touch a gun?
What's needed is gun control.
That's presuming an outcome not supported by the evidence. Alaska and New York have similar murder rates. We know why the murder rate in Alaska is so high, depression is a serious problem. That kind of happens in a place where the sun might shine for only three hours per day in the winter, and it's brutally cold. The state also attracts a lot of young men with not much better to do than turn a wrench on a far off oil well, or spend days at sea fishing. They get in fights, they get drunk, and they tend to kill each other. What's New York's excuse? Or London? London just passed New York City in the number of murders for the first time in a long time.
http://www.breitbart.com/londo...
What's London's excuse for such high rates of crime? They already banned all the guns? Are they going to ban them again? Maybe we need crime control to control the crime. Seems sensible to me.
I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
But needing to show that you know the laws pertaining to gun ownership, that you understand gun safety both in usage and in storage before being allowed to own a gun
One, the RIGHT to keep and bear arms is a right, like voting is a right. Change "gun ownership" to "Voting" and "gun safety" to "Constitutional law" and you'll start to see where the problem is in your logic.
BTW, I consider VOTING to be far more dangerous than owning a fire arm. People voting to take away my liberty and property is a huge problem that most liberals have no problem with. The passions of the people stirred is why democracies are inherently dangerous to liberty, and why we need constraining documents to control the powers of the collective.
Not that any socialist would understand.
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I may have used the wrong words. It is not a government organization, it is not a public space ... it is private property... you do not have the right of free speech. There are a few non-discriminatory laws that you must abide by, but other than that YouTube has no obligation to be open to anyone saying anything.
It's a "place of public accommodation," which means it has to honor your civil liberties.
Same shit they pull to ban smoking in bars.
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From one of your links (The Guardian):
A claim over the weekend that London’s murder rate in February and March exceeded New York’s has been dismissed by police chiefs because it was based on too short a period. New York had 292 murders in 2017 and has had 50 so far this year.