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Researchers Develop Device That Can 'Hear' Your Internal Voice (theguardian.com)
Researchers have created a wearable device that can read people's minds when they use an internal voice, allowing them to control devices and ask queries without speaking. From a report: The device, called AlterEgo, can transcribe words that wearers verbalise internally but do not say out loud, using electrodes attached to the skin. "Our idea was: could we have a computing platform that's more internal, that melds human and machine in some ways and that feels like an internal extension of our own cognition?" said Arnav Kapur, who led the development of the system at MIT's Media Lab.
Kapur describes the headset as an "intelligence-augmentation" or IA device, and was presented at the Association for Computing Machinery's Intelligent User Interface conference in Tokyo. It is worn around the jaw and chin, clipped over the top of the ear to hold it in place. Four electrodes under the white plastic device make contact with the skin and pick up the subtle neuromuscular signals that are triggered when a person verbalises internally. When someone says words inside their head, artificial intelligence within the device can match particular signals to particular words, feeding them into a computer.
Kapur describes the headset as an "intelligence-augmentation" or IA device, and was presented at the Association for Computing Machinery's Intelligent User Interface conference in Tokyo. It is worn around the jaw and chin, clipped over the top of the ear to hold it in place. Four electrodes under the white plastic device make contact with the skin and pick up the subtle neuromuscular signals that are triggered when a person verbalises internally. When someone says words inside their head, artificial intelligence within the device can match particular signals to particular words, feeding them into a computer.
All day long everyday.
"Don't think of the pink elephant. Don't think of the pink elephant."
Damn. Thought of the pink elephant. Now they know.
"Oh no... he found the
..you must think in Russian.
Think Russian.
*whooooosh*
The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
There are tremendous opportunities for entertainment with this!
I can see this as the perfect party-game...
For folks wondering, this is more the realm of sub-vocal utterances. It isn't mind-reading, and reading too much into it is likely a mistake outside of niche human behavior research.
You'd get the same result running a few filters on a mini-microphone stuck in your throat. At best, you're going to hear mumbling, perhaps some hyper-crude renditions of a song someone is thinking of, lots of hmms.
As far as biometric time wasters go, seems OK - but this is basically one step below (yes, below) random polygraph junk in terms of data sources for 'truth' about someone.
So it is more reading the grumbling/mumbling silent vocalizing and not really your inner voice of consciousness, right?
Still pretty cool and much better than a throat mike, but I think they are marketing it wrong.
"Don't think about screwing my buddy's wife."
Damn.
No matter where you go, there you are.
There was a device invented about 10-ish years ago that seems like the same thing. It would read the nerve impulses in your vocal cord region and derive words from them. And yes, this was done with unspoken words.
https://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-05/electronic-voice-box
Did I just say that out loud?... or not?
More fake "innovation" from the MIT Media Lab. When have they actually produced something that might be useful? And I call baloney on the ability to identify non-verbalized words. Complete BS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
It is pitch dark. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Seriously slash, step it up.
Human machine interface using nonverbal cues is *not* hearing your fucking inner voice.
The fuck.
My mind seems to be so scattered that I don't know if I'd be able to use this accurately. I can't even tell how many posts I've written then deleted because something else came to mind.
Where I think this could be really cool though is transcribing dreams. It seems most days I can remember a portion of a dream, but never the entire thing. I think it would be neat to look and see what I was dreaming about.
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
It's a pity Stephen Hawking is no longer with us. This would undoubtably speed up the rate at which he could communicate.
... headset ... is worn around the jaw and chin, clipped over the top of the ear to hold it in place. ...
Four electrodes under the white plastic device make contact with the skin
Try getting through airport security wearing that and after it verbalizes your thoughts to the TSA agents.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
'Bullshit' - that is exactly what I thought, with my inner voice! But you transcribed it, so you must be able to read my mind... so this invention must really work! Even when I wasn't wearing it... ;)
William George
The science fiction book "Earth" by David Brin predicted exactly this back in 1990. Brin imagined a clip-on device that would interpret subvocalised words by measuring muscle movements in the chin and throat, exactly like this. He called it the "subvocal". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
You are lost in a twisty maze of little standards, all different.
If my thought-dreams could be seen they'd probably put my head in a guillotine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subvocal_recognition
The article has a professor talking about the potential military applications for communications. The thing is, subvocal microphones (attached right above the larynx) and bone conduction microphones already solve that problem with the military. And it also solves the problems that they are trying to solve of "secret communications with my device." Also, it looks significantly less stupid.
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I'm a world class mumbler, I've had the opportunity to listen to recordings of my speaking which even I could not understand. Almost everyone mumbles. That is, full articulation of words doesn't often happen. As any audiologist will tell you sentences (at least) aren't composed of words separated by voids, but run together. As they say, hearing is not the same as listening (or understanding). It would be interesting to find out what the number of atomic "words" the apparatus is able to distinguish. I'd guess less than a couple dozen.
I have between 2 and 6 voices going on internally simultaneously, typically when I'm multitasking or mulling over a difficult problem, the voice keeps going on in the background (quite literally as if you're in a shared office) and occasionally interrupts the current primary conversation. I also have conversations with myself in my head and they have different voices.
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and it's been around for a while. See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyN4ViZ21N0 (Posted March 2008)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spFIBtTVtAA (Posted March 2009)
Nothing new here people, move along.
My internal farts for my internal voice. I know it's tough to tell the difference.
Kind of my thought. When you subvocalize words internally your voice box actually twiches to make the sounds you just don't move your lips and tongue to say them.
This is different from picking your thoughts which uses a different mechanism.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
Is it beer?
my inner farts?
Except that people don't use their vocal apparatus when they use their inner voice...
Guess it's working perfectly
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Come on Cambridge analytica, we spot you. Don't think you got us fooled for a minute.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Although I can think in words when I explicitly want to, I find that the most accurate way to describe how I normally think is in terms of either images or else general concepts that I have an intuitive understanding of or at least the ability to imagine.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Robert J. Sawyer in his book Quantum Night mentioned this sort of idea.
He suggested that Philosophical Zombies would not have an inner voice, they in reality go through the motions of every day life without actually carrying on an inner monologue and they just fake it to fit in. He gives a lot of examples of strange human behaviour that are explained by the idea. For example mob mentality if many people are running a simple "just fit in" script in their brains instead of a real train of sapient thought.
No matter what, if this device really works, we are going to learn a lot more about human consciousness from it over the next decade.
Yes and no
You can subvocalise like that
But certainly the Sunday is claiming access to your internal voice, not subvocalised speach.
Not reverb close to the same thing.
So certainly the summary is bs.
That and the fact that their sensors are not in the right place for voice box monitoring anyway.
So this looks to be little more that old fashioned muscle tracking, so they are monitoring mostly tongue movement.
Can someone who's read the article please tell me if we're talking about some kind of mindreading horseshit or subvocalization?
It's Friday and I've been drinking since 11am and I really can't be bothered to click the link.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Subconscious is best realized through your nerve endings. The most nerves are in your nose and in your butthole.
Kind of my thought. When you subvocalize words internally your voice box actually twiches to make the sounds you just don't move your lips and tongue to say them.
This might explain why my voice is so tired. I usually have a tune running through my head, pretty much 24/7, and right now it's playing "Rosetta Stoned" by Tool, and I don't have Brother Maynard's vocal range.
Obviously this will be used to extract confessions from accused persons. Politicians and televangelists will be granted immunity from anything they think.
Can you say "thoughtcrime?"
Now I can join the fellowship!
It's what did I lock the door I should really go to bed where's the cat what bread should I get tomorrow where did I put my phone why isn't whelmed a word whatever happened to Limahl I thought too.
This is just the exact type of AI that should not be developed. Do we really want anyone, let alone the government, be able to immobilize us somehow strap this on us and either use it as a lie detector or to read thoughts that we have never tried to NOT subvocalize. In fact the real market may be in courses that teach you to not think in words at all!
Yeah, mod you all the way up, first thing that occurred to me. This will be used by law enforcement, and there will be Supreme Court challenges to it's use, as it would violate someone's 5th Amendment rights, I believe. Of course all of this is assuming the device actually works as advertised, with accuracy, and isn't just a bunch of overhyped or fake tech.
"But certainly the Sunday is claiming access to your internal voice, not subvocalised speach."
You mean that voice, that tells me to kill everybody, that I'm hearing all the time?
"pretty much 24/7, and right now it's playing "Rosetta Stoned" by Tool, and I don't have Brother Maynard's vocal range."
Just rap it, that should be doable with 3 tones.
Practice practice practice.
Vocal range is from practice.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
In 2002, the Japanese company NTT DoCoMo announced it had created a silent mobile phone using electromyography and imaging of lip movement. "The spur to developing such a phone," ...
Oh, how amazingly insightful, thank you professor.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Does anyone have any doubts that this will instantly be used by law enforcement and your government?
I didn't think so.
J
Even if it works as described, it seems like it's still useless if a person thinks in terms of pictures or general concepts and not words.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
"That dress makes your ass look big"
Table-ized A.I.
I saw a story yesterday. Instead of using millions of dollars of equipment, a group of researchers used the el-cheapo (ok say a couple thousand bucks) version of a brain wave scanner: basically about 20 probes that you can attach to your head (they can be mounted into something like a cap that you put on). They recorded brain waves from users, and while feeding the brain wave sources into an AI computer, showed people pictures of many different people. After about 15 minutes, they asked the person to think about someone and what they looked like. They reversed the process (read the brain waves) and it came up with a picture. They then asked them who the person was, and showed a picture of them beside the 'brain wave' picture. And they were *damn* close. Not perfect, slightly blurry, but very definitely the same person. And this was from cheap hardware. We are 20 years away from reading what people are thinking by machine.
Didn't they create some thing like this for cats and dogs??
How did that turn out?
Brain-reading will make it so much easier for AI to destroy us all. The tech world is full of brilliant short-sighted idiots.
I was going to ask if it can hear my internal voice on reading this article, but aparantly everyone can....
A psychologist did something similar as an experiment. He was able to pick up the voices (audio hallucinations) that someone was hearing in their head.
AUGH! Learn to type as**ole!
Take it easy. Ok. Never mind. Rented fingers.
Does the JOIN get fully analyzed before the WHERE?
I will never effing understand this elliptic curve s**t
Man I really have to poop now
Check slashdot first. What's the stock market doing
Tweet this trump. I knew I shoulda bought amazon.
Fricking Microsoft! How could you NOT implement shortcircuit IF?
"Not in HTML5". Great.
Supersix EVO. oh yea baby. 64 cm ought to do it. Man that bitch is 'spensive.
Crap. Is it Len() or Length()? My mind is turning to mush.
Note to self. Renew Methylphenidate script.
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
If you were a visual thinker, you could think all those things within the span of two seconds.
"It's all fucking well and good until the fuckers find out how many of our internal fucking voices suffer from fucking tourettes" was mine. Really not looking forward to the day they start fitting this technology to guns though.
Clearly this technology is already too powerful!
Oh, the one that started out sounding like Woody Allen on acid and as the world grew more insane now has the authoritative voice of Maximillian P. Arturo and sounds reasonable.....?
....for now.....
Yeah, I feed that fucker lots of weed and GTA...keeps him sedated and sated.
Donald Trump, on a crusade to make Nixon look respectable
Goatse didn't get an asshole like that from nothing. :)
"lie detectors", fingetprints, hair/gene analysis, lineups, witnesses, and similar unscientific nonsense, it's safe to say that, as always, law enforcement ist all about quickl finding the nearest scapegoat in the causal graph, for the sole purpose of vile primitve revenge (aka doing the same thing as the criminal and claiming *you* are more equal because he did it first).
Researchers have created a wearable device that can read people's jaw movements.
Stephen Hawking's ghost is thinking "Oh yeah... NOW!"
But how many people can discipline their thoughts that way, especially if they're being interrogated relentlessly for hours?
I'm suggesting that some people, myself for example, don't think in words at all. The only time I think in words is when I explicitly am thinking about what to say or to write, or I make the deliberate and conscious choice to try and do so. In general, I think in terms of wordless images, or general ideas... until I try and communicate whatever it is that I am thinking about to another person. If I'm not trying to communicate it, no words need necessarily exist... words are tools only needed for linguistic communication, not thought.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Not everyone is autistic, though. In fact, some people have the opposite condition and can't visualize at all.
Subvocal throat microphones have existed for decades.