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Lawmakers Call FBI's 'Going Dark' Narrative 'Highly Questionable' After Motherboard Shows Cops Can Easily Hack iPhones (vice.com)

Joseph Cox, reporting for Motherboard: This week, Motherboard showed that law enforcement agencies across the country, including a part of the State Department, have bought GrayKey, a relatively cheap technology that can unlock fully up-to-date iPhones. That revelation, cryptographers and technologists said, undermined the FBI's renewed push for backdoors in consumer encryption products. Citing Motherboard's work, on Friday US lawmakers sent a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray, doubting the FBI's narrative around 'going dark', where law enforcement officials say they are increasingly unable to obtain evidence related to crimes due to encryption. Politico was first to report the letter. "According to your testimony and public statements, the FBI encountered 7,800 devices last year that it could not access due to encryption," the letter, signed by 5 Democrat and 5 Republican n House lawmakers, reads. "However, in light of the availability of unlocking tools developed by third-parties and the OIG report's findings that the Bureau was uninterested in seeking available third-party options, these statistics appear highly questionable," it adds, referring to a recent report from the Justice Department's Office of the Inspector General. That report found the FBI barely explored its technical options for accessing the San Bernardino iPhone before trying to compel Apple to unlock the device. The lawmaker's letter points to Motherboard's report that the State Department spent around $15,000 on a GrayKey.

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  1. Re: Sales-talk and keeping up appearances by Type44Q · · Score: 2

    then people would stop buying

    The Feds could give two fucks about that; what matters to them is that dumb criminals would stop using their phones foolishly.

  2. Is Apple coooperating with the authorities? by Joe+Branya · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article says Greylock can access "fully up-to-date IPhones".

    Can Greylock access Iphones that don't allow automatic updating? If Greylock can't, then Apple has given out an update that allows outsiders to access your IPhone. So much for the Apple claim to be a privacy good-guy. Even more interesting is the possibility that Apple has pushed an OS update to phones which have automatic update turned off, something we usually associate with Microsoft.

    Is there anyone out there capable of looking at the stream of bits coming-and-going and reading the flash memory that holds the updated code? And if Apple can push an update, what does that mean for the validity of the phone log when the IPhone shows up as a court exhibit? And do IPhones in Europe and China get the same treatment?

    1. Re: Is Apple coooperating with the authorities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, all this means is that thereâ(TM)s a security vulnerability in iOS that the greykey guys are aware of, but Apple is not.

  3. Re:Graykey works for now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As soon as a case where the phone was unlocked with this 'tool' comes to court, the defence will challenge the evidence and independant 3rd parties will examine the device. It does not take a genius to realise that the 'magic sauce' that makes this work will soon become public.
    If Apple does not already know about this and not already patched it then they are slipping and slipping badly.

    The game of cat and mouse is about to go to another round.

  4. Re: It's not easy being the good guys by Type44Q · · Score: 2

    It's not easy being the good guys

    Fortunately for the FBI, "being the good guys" has never been their mission statement.

  5. Re: Sales-talk and keeping up appearances by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    All the hoo ha about backdoors does seem pretty suspicious. It's pretty trivial to write an app that stores things or communicates with unbreakable encryption and is pretty much immune to legislation. Surely smart criminals must do this already. So a backdoor would only be useful for catching dumb ones. Perhaps insisting that a backdoor is needed but does not exist is useful for catching dumb criminals AND not-so-smart ones.

  6. Quoting Monty Python... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    However, in light of the availability of unlocking tools developed by third-parties and the OIG report's findings that the Bureau was uninterested in seeking available third-party options, these statistics appear highly questionable"

    FBI: "I wish to plead incompetence."

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  7. Re:So, the FBI is lying? by ArchieBunker · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd call them more incompetent than anything else. They received tips about the Florida school shooter including his name and what he was going to do and they did nothing. Typical big government.

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  8. Independent verification Greykey works? by david.emery · · Score: 2

    Anyone seen 'proof' this GrayKey thing actually works?

  9. Re:It's not easy being the good guys by NormalVisual · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The freedoms we enjoy are quite precious, and the sacrifices made to preserve them do not all occur on the field of battle

    Which also means that we as a society have to deal with the fallout from such rights. For instance, the fact that it's legal to buy and sell alcohol means that people WILL die as a result of drunk driving, regardless of the laws against that particular act. You can't have one without the other, and if you truly stand for freedom, you accept that. We can take other steps to prevent those deaths, but they'll always be an inherent cost of preserving that right.

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  10. PRINCIPLE by markdavis · · Score: 2

    >"That revelation, cryptographers and technologists said, undermined the FBI's renewed push for backdoors in consumer encryption products."

    To me, it is completely irrelevant whether they can or can't unlock consumer devices. The PRINCIPLE remains the same- the government does not and should not have a "right" to ruin security in the name of "safety". I don't care how inconvenient it this makes it for them to do their job. The statements about not necessarily needing it due to hacking products shouldn't distract from the real thing at stake here- personal privacy and freedom.

    There simply is no way to have have it both ways. When you have "back doors" in encryption, there will be no security/privacy anymore.

  11. Re:So, the FBI is lying? by BlueStrat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd call them more incompetent than anything else. They received tips about the Florida school shooter including his name and what he was going to do and they did nothing. Typical big government.

    After the "Fast & Furious" fiasco where the ATF were attempting to illegally allow straw-purchasers from Mexican drug cartels to buy and smuggle US weapons into Mexico to "give ammo" to the gun-control lobby, it would not surprise me at all to learn of covert 'stand-down' orders regarding the Parkland shooter (especially considering the bizarre behavior/non-action of LEOs at the scene on top of a plethora of ignored warnings beforehand), and authorities at high levels in government responsible for deliberately and intentionally allowing those children to die to advance the gun-control agenda.

    It's strange, because gun-related homicides over the last 25 years are down over 50% and gun violence victimization is down over 75%. School shootings are also way down, with the '90s being the worst.

    The US government is rapidly coming to more-resemble a hostile occupying force than a peaceful domestic government in place by the will of the people it governs.

    Strat

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  12. Re: Sales-talk and keeping up appearances by fafalone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    99% of criminals fall into the 'dumb ones' category. They will use whatever is default and even if their interest in something more secure was piqued, they couldn't get the other dumb criminals they talk to about their crimes to go along with it. So whether encryption is unbreakable by default actually does have huge significance to law enforcement. It still should be since that's by far outweighed by the privacy benefit to non-criminals, but as out of touch /. is with normal people, it pales in comparison to how far removed from typical criminals it is, and there seems to be this mistaken belief that the percentage of criminals that will "just" set up a secure alternative to bad defaults is in some way significant.

  13. Re:So, the FBI is lying? by fafalone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A conspiracy theory involving dozens of police from several different agencies all knowingly and without knowledge leaking allowing someone to go on a shooting rampage in a highschool is modded +4 Interesting and Insightful? You have got to be kidding me. This is the kind of bullshit they put on InfoWars.
    And another big fat [citation needed] on Fast & Furious being motivated by helping gun control (a program, by the way, started under George W. Bush in 2006).
    That this isn't modded down or at least Funny makes me more disappointed in the direction the comments section here is heading more than anything else, and there's heavy competition, even though I do agree that violence is way down and our government is becoming a hostile occupying force, not to mention fully support the 2nd.

  14. Re: So, the FBI is lying? by Brockmire · · Score: 2

    You listen to NRA propaganda? Jesus Christ. Guns going to Mexico is going to have meaningful change in US? Fuck, that's just stupid. That's just a pile on opportunity because the NRA are cocksuckers. The guns were supposed to be tracked. They weren't. They are fucking incompetent. News at 11. Same as police and teaching professions, protecting fuck ups and covering it up instead of shit canning them just makes things 100X worse than the original fuck up.

  15. Re: Sales-talk and keeping up appearances by dgatwood · · Score: 2

    On the other hand, the dumb criminals typically leave myriad other clues that can be followed just as easily. The ones that you're going to have a hard time catching are the smart ones, and they're smart enough to use something more secure than the default. They're also the ones whose schemes are likely to cause the most damage.

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  16. Re: So, the FBI is lying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you are so against private firearm ownership and are an American, why would you remain in the one nation on the planet known for private firearm ownership, and instead try to overcome 200+ years of national history and tradition, not to mention the objections of the majority of people to abolishing the US Constitution's 2nd Amendment?

    It would be much more effective to simply go live in one of the plethora of nations that already ban or heavily-restrict firearms. Just saying, as I'm not American nor live there. I have no dog in this fight. It just seems illogical. It's like demanding America switch their culture and language to match those of the Japanese instead of simply immigrating to Japan to satisfy your desire to live in Japanese culture and speak Japanese.