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Tesla Temporarily Stops Model 3 Production Line (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Tesla is temporarily stopping production of its Model 3 electric car, amid a long waiting list and several missed targets. The company, however, says the shutdown is intended to resolve some of the problems that have contributed to the numerous delays in getting the cars to hundreds of thousands of reservation holders. The automaker said Monday it would halt production of the Model 3 sedan for 4-5 days at its Fremont, California assembly plant, BuzzFeed reported. Tesla, however, says this is part of a planned period of downtime that was similar to another shutdown in February, and it isn't intended to have an affect on the company's current production targets for the car. "Our Model 3 production plan includes periods of planned downtime in both Fremont and Gigafactory 1," a Tesla spokesperson told The Verge. "These periods are used to improve automation and systematically address bottlenecks in order to increase production rates. This is not unusual and is in fact common in production ramps like this."

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  1. Next - janitorial staffing updates by sinij · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why such obsession over trivial and routine manufacturing decisions at Tesla? Are we also going to get "Janitors at Tesla factory had to put overtime to unclog plugged toilet" headlines?

    1. Re:Next - janitorial staffing updates by ausekilis · · Score: 4, Funny

      Because people are genuinely interested in the amount of fiber in Mr. Musk's diet.

    2. Re:Next - janitorial staffing updates by Octorian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why such obsession over trivial and routine manufacturing decisions at Tesla? Are we also going to get "Janitors at Tesla factory had to put overtime to unclog plugged toilet" headlines?

      Because Tesla is a heavily shorted stock, and has started to return to the "good news" phase of the cycle.
      Whenever a stock is heavily shorted, good news that increases the stock value must be immediately followed by a series of damning articles to make the stock value drop again.

      So if Model 3 production was completely on-track, and there was nothing else bad to report about the company, you absolutely would see a front-page article on the terrible toilet problems that were causing issues at the factory. (Often, but not exclusively, originating from a place like "Business Insider" or "Seeking Alpha" from an author who quietly admits to have a short position on TSLA and a long position on competitors.)

    3. Re: Next - janitorial staffing updates by haruchai · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I was about to respond, snippily, that it's not like there's a whole lot of people cancelling, and then thought I'd google.

      Turns out AC's right -- people are cancelling, and in many cases Tesla's taking a really really long time to refund their money (up to 3 months, it seems). More at https://www.wired.com/story/ca...

      Not technically "not refunding", but still pretty poor.

      Did you read your own link?
      "The next day, I found a FedEx envelope on my doorstep. My refund had arrived — 61 business days after I cancelled my reservation.

      Not every Tesla refund takes this long — or this much work. "It was easy," says Jeff Maggard, a former reservation holder from Ithaca, New York, who cancelled his deposit in February after a career change made it hard to justify buying a new car. His refund showed up on his credit card less than two weeks later. "I did it all online without talking to anyone. There was no number to call so I could be talked out of it by a representative. No dumb tricks to make me stay. It was great," Maggard says. "Very customer-centered."

      I've waited much longer for refunds for a lot less than $1000 so I don't know what the gripe is all about.
      In any case, it's clear that it's not everyone who had to wait a long time.
      It's been suggested that a lot of the complainants may have had the credit cards used to place the reservation expire which would make a refund difficult.

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    4. Re: Next - janitorial staffing updates by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Indeed. They're half a year late. Reservations have remained roughly constant at about half a million. And over on the Tesla forums, people are cheering the news about scheduled line downtime. Because you take lines down to upgrade them to be better / faster. Every time Tesla has taken the line down in the past, it's come back up much faster than previously. The last line downtime saw an over 2x increase in production.

      I've been hoping to see news that Tesla would be taking the line down, as that would be the next sign of an upcoming production jump, and was very happy when I saw this today.

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    5. Re:Next - janitorial staffing updates by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is about Tesla consistently failing to hit production targets by orders of magnitude,

      They hit 80% of last quarter's target. Is that "off by an order of magnitude" to you?

      Which followed the reports that this was done in unsustainable

      What BS "reports"? They've maintained the 2k/wk rate since then.

      Yes, they're six months late. Big whoop. Reservations are still at half a million, the "competition" is still a joke, and each of the supposed "Tesla killers" so far has turned out to be half-baked. Exceeding in some cases even my pessimism. I totally didn't call that, for example, the 2018 Leaf would only be able to go 200-300km before being throttled to 20-25kW charge rates. I mean, ouch.

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  2. Short sellers by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tesla is the most shorted company right now.

    The problem with the situation is that most investors *want* Tesla to fail so that they can make money from the short sales.

    OTOH, Elon Musk is aware of the shorts and tends to do something to prop up the stock price whenever it drops a little. Like announcing a new model or a new production goal. (The production goals are never met, but the announcements make the stock tick up a couple of percent.)

    So right now we're awash in bear market opinions, and many suggestive (but worthless) statements keep making the rounds such as:

    "Tesla has never made a profit"
    "Tesla loses money on every car they sell"
    "Tesla only survives due to government handouts"
    "Tesla is so far behind that some people will get their cars $SOMENUMBER years from now"
    "Tesla is burning through cash, will be bankrupt in $NUM months"
    "Musk is a serial liar"

    Those are the highlights - have I missed any?

    To analyze #4 as an example ("burning through cash"), note that this is something the CFO and CEO keep track of and anticipate, and are responsible for raising more cash before the bankruptcy actually happens. Also, specifically Tesla predicts that they won't need another round of financing, but that option is certainly open if they need it.

    It's nigh impossible to get an accurate assessment of Tesla's worth right now, due to corruption in reporting.

    Tesla expects to turn a profit for the first time later this year. Their stock will probably skyrocket when that happens.

  3. Re:It's not trivial by vtcodger · · Score: 4, Informative

    "See, the obsession is that investors have dumped BILLIONS into Tesla and it has been lost - yes, LOST - period."

    The money hasn't been lost yet, but Tesla is burning through it's cash at a stunning rate. It looks to be a crapshoot as to whether Tesla will end this year flying high, dead broke, or struggling off into the future having sold off much of whatever it has in the way of marketable assets. See https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/3...

    Moody's downgraded Tesla's credit rating to "Negative" a few weeks ago. That's not good.

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