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North Korean Leader Says He Will Suspend Arms Tests, Shut Nuclear Test Site (cnn.com)
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un announced early Saturday morning that the regime no longer needs nuclear tests or intercontinental ballistic missile tests. Kim said Saturday that "under the proven condition of complete nuclear weapons, we no longer need any nuclear tests, mid-range and intercontinental ballistic rocket tests, and that the nuclear test site in northern area has also completed its mission," state-run KCNA reported Saturday. CNN reports: A North Korea source told CNN that Kim has finally decided to open up a new chapter for his nation.
Kim has committed himself to the path of denuclearization and will now focus solely on economic growth and improving the national economy, the source said. The North Korean leader has realized the best path forward is to normalize relations with other countries, the source added. He is finally being recognized by the international community, and this is a historic, timely opportunity, the source said. The decision to halt nuclear and missile testing comes just one week before the leaders of South and North Korea are due to meet at the demilitarized zone between the two countries. U.S. President Donald Trump welcomed the news, tweeting: "North Korea has agreed to suspend all Nuclear Tests and close up a major test site. This is very good news for North Korea and the World - big progress! Look forward to our Summit."
Even the media can't spin this. I may actually see a unified Korea in my lifetime.
Or it could all fall apart. But as far as I can tell, this may actually be within grasp.
After seeing the picture of Kim Jong-Un blushing while posing with Red Velvet I figured, OK, this might be for real, he might really be ready to focus on trade.
Plus, China told him he had to do it; he went to China and they went on the news together, and North Korea had agreed to give up their nuclear program, and China had agreed to remain their ally. Sounds like a good deal to me, right?! Good deal for everybody, actually.
So how do you soften the hearts of the Generals? With kpop. Duh.
Works for me! I'm more of an AoA fan, but I can totally see Red Velvet being better for this mission.
He's also declared that he will stop "first posting"!
Wasn't there broad speculation from intelligence recently that their test facility had caved in, killing many?
When the history books record peace in korea because of trump.
...is what I'd like to say, but my spidey-sense is tingling on overdrive.
This is what happens when Syria and Iran buy all the "surplus" uranium and plutonium and you've run out because of all the tests you've done.
Now time to milk your "generosity" and "peaceful intentions" so you can feed your country.
Trump was the only world leader who could speak Kim's language, and that was what finally convinced them to drop a path they had been on through MANY other U.S. presidents.
This alone makes Trump the greatest president in modern times, greatly eclipsing anything Obama ever did (or even imagined he did).
Now after we clean up Obama's gift of nuclear weapons to Iran, the world may actually be safer for once...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. I call bullshit on Fat Kimmy.
It's a vicious cycle. (1) Blow off a nuke or two, make threats, bluster (2) Get the South and US to negotiate (3) Get food/technical assistance (4) When assistance runs out, go back to (1) We're talking about North Korea -- they have more years' experience with blackmail than the age of the average US official.
It seems to be playing out so that if there is a deal, all the important parts will be negotiated by the Korean leaders first, and if that deal adds up to a deal that the US can support, then whoever is the US President on some day shortly after that will sign some papers that also say the same things. And they will get some attention for it.
The difference with Iran is that Iran and Israel are about to go to open warfare, and then that deal won't even matter.
If different American groups support a deal in Korea in the future will depend on North Korea's behavior; if they observe international norms, most Americans will support it.
Iran is very different; many Americans would never support any sort of deal with Iran as long as Revolutionary forces remain in power there, because they're still mad about all the mean stuff that Iran did. And they know that Iranians are still mad at us about the mean stuff we did. So they're very distrustful of any ideas for maintaining peace. Korea doesn't have that sort of interest level without the nukes. Probably because Korea is divided and the good half is our friend. People worried about North Korea, other than with nukes, are worried about Communism more generally, and North Korea is small and distant. People who care about that are more worried about closer threats, like Cuba, and bigger threats, like China.
We should just start making movies for Kim to show at home, with nukes, and Armageddon, Trump begging for mercy, the whole speil.
Sony could produce a while series of Kim takes over the world movies so he can keep brainwashing his people into believing he is the most powerful and fearless leader in history.
He can blow smoke out his ass all over NK, and tell them everyone started sending food so he doesn't get a hankering to kick the collective ass of the world again!
It wouldn't be the worst lie in the history of government propaganda. er... I mean FAKE NEWS!!!
The Norks will spend the money we give them and test fire another ICBM.
Cuz it's what they've been doing for the past 30 years, I wish to god there was an ETF that let me bet on the Norks lying in a treaty.
Why on earth would China do that? Let's have a reason not based in something you just made up.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Nah, a symbol of a fat gay virgin easily triggered. Sad.
And watch the media spin like GE's finest turbines.
That story would have been a very good April fool's joke, but it seems to be a bit late. Perhaps traditions in Korea sets joke time on April 20th?
https://www.vox.com/2018/3/29/...
Who needs more tests once he has perfected the technology. Now begins production in earnest. Rockets plus payloads. Onward and upward!
I think Kim Dot Bomb is trying to look like the good guy prior to the meeting with Trump.
He'll then press the old man's buttons in the meeting until the old man blows and and shouts across the table "your fired!".
Then walk away saying to the world media "Well I was happy to negotiate but Trump was his usual self and blew it. I'll keep my bombs since this guy is the dangerous one"
No need, China has missiles that have more than twice that range.
'Palestinians', or more accurately, local Arabs, do live in that land. What you are likely describing is them occupying Israel and doing their damndest to reduce Jews to a minority, so that they can get rid of the one Jewish country that is actually the original home of the Jews
It's been 70 years, and everywhere else in the world, when people have been displaced, they settle down in newer countries and assimilate there, rather than carry that grudge across generations. Like Crimean Tatars in Uzbekistan, or Sindhi Hindus in India. Aside from the people in the West Bank or Gaza, there are Palis who left that area to settle in other countries, such as Tunisia, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, et al. There is no reason why they can't just settle down in those countries, and assimilate into their populations
Can you create a /etc/hosts file that will abort all of Pyongyang's nukes?
Saddam and Gaddafi were unfortunate enough to have globalists like Bush or Obama on the other end. Trump, unlike them, is not interested in toppling regimes, so Kim can feel safe there. Only issue would be after Trump, if any future globalist leader decides to support an insurrection, the same way Obama did in Libya. Gadaffi didn't anticipate that his cooperation w/ Bush would cost him when the leadership changed, and paid the price. So Kim would have to work out a deal where any future US administration would be legally prevented from ousting him, no matter what the situation
You really don't seem to know much about how the North Koreans operate, history has shown plenty that they simply can't be trusted. This isn't the first time that they've offered to drop their nuclear weapons program.
In 2007 they agreed to move towards disarmament, and over the course of 2007 and 2008 they actually took substantive steps in that direction, in particular surrounding shutting down the Yongbyon nuclear facility. In return they received aid, and were removed from the US list of State Sponsors of Terrorism in October 2008.
Nothing about that lasted. In 2009 they failed in the launch of the Kwangmyngsng-2 satellite, were denounced in turn by the UN as that launch being cover for a missile test, and subsequently restarted their nuclear program and tested another nuclear weapon in the following month, May 2009, and continued their weapons program up to and including the more recent thermonuclear tests. Notably, this was also roughly the timeframe when Kim Jong-Un was securing the succession, he was named the successor by Kim Jong-il in January 2009, and more steps locking that in took place over 2009 and the subsequent years leading up to Kim Jong-il's death in December 2011.
This really isn't all about Trump, he and his supporters are blinding themselves if they think that somehow his force of personality or whatever will somehow magically fix the problem with North Korea. Their duplicity on nuclear weapons goes back many US presidencies, and if there was an easy way to solve the problem its doubtful we'd be in this position in the first place.
....NOBODY....wanted that tiny piece of land, of the giant entirety of that area. It was inhospitable desert. But plop some Jews and all of a sudden every Muslim gets all bent out of shape.
If nothing else, Trump finally got Democrats to distrust communists ...
Uh, maybe that isn't good news...
Hi there, APK. It's obvious from your own transparent/laughable failures to impersonate that you don't even understand what the word means.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
You're right... some past presidents had nuclear fucking bombs stationed in South Korea. If you don't know history, you shouldn't talk about it.
Fascism: An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. See also: NAZI's
You're projecting. This is not a round of The East Is Red, and the last thing Beijing is interested in is a war with one of its large neighbours.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Do you even know the history of the Korean war?
Do you?
(Mine was a rhetorical question, obviously.)
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Huh? China's only had nukes (including H-bombs that are known to, well, *work*) and actual intercontinental BMs to put them on for about 50 years now. In case you missed it, the Chinese have also been putting people and things like space stations into orbit for a number of years.
The notion of NK supplying the PRC with nuclear and/or missile technology is ludicrous.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
You may be a fan of régimes that feed their populations into grinders to make armies and nukes and to guarantee a rich lifestyle for the Leader and his inner circle. I'm not.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
His hosts file screeds are more original, though.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Agreed. I see it from an ac troll apk quoted...
That's odd, I see only APK talking to himself.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
There's just one conditions so NK gives up nukes :
That the other nations denuclearize also, including of course the US.
Will the US give up nuclear weapons ? not sure.
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Saddam and Gaddafi were unfortunate enough to have globalists like Bush or Obama on the other end.
Saddam and Gaddafi were unfortunate enough not to share a land border with China.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
KJU: "we don't need to do more tests now that we have a working weapon"
source: "Kim has committed himself to the path of denuclearization".
These are very different paths.
The first fundamental law of understanding PRK is that what they say or promise don't make no difference.
If he says he'll stop, maybe he will. Then start again, as before.
If he says he'll stop, and he does, it probably just means they have accumulated enough compute power to simulate as well as the US does.
In other words, it don't mean a hill of beans other than as a negotiating ploy.
he's forgotten how Nixon went to China
You've forgotten the definition of modern it would seem.
Carter got a peace accord in the Middle-East
Wow, just WOW. You are really going to hold up the Middle East as an example of SUCESS?? Just because he got a piece of paper signed while many continued to die there. You must REALLY love paper.
Reagan blew up the debt
But ended the Soviet Union for quite a while in the process, which incidentally Obama helped prosper in recent times.
Bush I conquered Iraq
Now you are talking about modern times, but I wouldn't could anything any Bush did as a success.
I count that one as kind of a wash because he got rid of.a really bad dictator but then Obama again backed out of Iraq and essentially destroyed a tenuous success turning it to failure.
Obama fixed health insurance
We were talking foreign policy... but I love how claim health care in the U.S. is "fixed". Who thinks that exactly?
Obama fixed health insurance and didn't start a war.
Holy shit did you really forget Libya, the worst debacle in modern times that destroyed a country that was slowly modernizing. It will remain a third world nation for the next fifty years thanks to Hillary and Obama - I was planning a trip to Libya before the war there started and now I will not see it in my lifetime.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Don't be fooled. This is a step toward a unified Korea and possibly a Korea much more friendly with China down the road.
Yes, and???
Still WAY WAY better than NK, which had literally insane leadership with a few nukes to play with.
You may not like China much but they are rational players. Also they would prefer to simply take over the U.S. rather than blow bits of it up or kill as many people as possible.
I foresee a not unrealistic takeover of the U.S. by China in the next hundred years, though probably more of a merger. So worrying about Korea getting closer to China just seems utterly irrelevant.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It's kind of a relief actually that his term is useful in some way to American interests as opposed to just foreign ones.
How about agreeing to stop the "evil Americans" propaganda, and actually reverse that?!
Most PRNK citizens believe that Americans are evil creatures bent on hurting them. They all want to kill, literally, all Americans (as the jihadist do).
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
I guess some people might be too young or have too short memories, but this is nothing new.
It's a tactic played well by his father that he must've learned exactly how to play from an young age.
Make threats and become belligerent when a new US president shows up, escalate aggression, call the world's attention, put everyone on high alert. Internally you ramp up nationalism, tell citizens their way of living is being threatened, ramp up defense, the leader gets to say he'll do everything to defend the "greatest country" or some bullshit.
Then he goes on diplomacy mode, say he wants peace and negotiation, make promises to see how the global landscape will react, try to cut out deals to cut through sanctions and whatnot, play the good guy while secretly building up for the next round with weapons development.
Rinse and repeat. That's all there is to it. It's a cycle that has basically happened to every US president in the past couple of decades or so. It works, there is no better way of dealing with it, and it guarantees that North Korea will remain a dictatorship for a very long time.
1) The United States killed three million Koreans and flattened every city in the north in an illegal war
2) The United States has overthrown dozens of democracies since the Korean War, replacing many of them with dictatorships, and sometimes for giggles gone back decades later to overthrow those dictatorships (see Iraq)
3) North Korea's threats are retaliatory - as in 'we'll can strike you if you attack us'. You could also end sanctions that make NK dependent on outside help, too.
4) The United States has practiced invasions of North Korea every year every year since the 90's. During harvest or planting seasons which forces men who would be working on farms to deploy to the border, in case this time it's for real.
North Korea is not a spoiled child as you absurdly suggest. They are defending themselves against American regime change.