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SmugMug Buys Flickr, Vows To Revitalize the Photo Service (usatoday.com)

On Friday, Silicon Valley photo-sharing and storage company SmugMug announced it had acquired Flickr, the photo-sharing site created in 2004 by Ludicorp and acquired in 2005 by Yahoo. SmugMug CEO Don MacAskill told USA TODAY he's committed to revitalizing the faded social networking site, which hosted photos and videos long before it became trendy. Flickr will reportedly continue to operate separately, and SmugMug and Flickr accounts will "remain separate and independent for the foreseeable future." From the report: He declined to disclose the terms of the deal, which closed this week. "Flickr is an amazing community, full of some of the world's most passionate photographers. It's a fantastic product and a beloved brand, supplying tens of billions of photos to hundreds of millions of people around the world," MacAskill said. "Flickr has survived through thick-and-thin and is core to the entire fabric of the Internet." The surprise deal ends months of uncertainty for Flickr, whose fate had been up in the air since last year when Yahoo was bought by Verizon for $4.5 billion and joined with AOL in Verizon's Oath subsidiary.

61 comments

  1. Could be really good by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    I still feel like Flickr has one of the best viewing experiences for photographs around, much better than Instagram, which is more about casual lifestyle photos, or even 500px which is more of a direct competitor... Flickr is really nice for following people who like to take more considered and composed photos than just random bits of this or that.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Could be really good by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Flikr's major problem (aside from spell checkers) is Yahoo.

      I've had a Flickr account for ages. When my old email address up and died I lost control of my photos because the idiots can't figure out how to deal with a dead email. They've sent me to all sorts of pages to attempt to resolve my reality but their old data is so fucked up that they're convinced I'm not me.

      Sending an actual, physical, printed letter to my permanent address or talking to my credit card companies seems well beyond their capabilities.

      So, good luck with this.

      (They're also going to have to deal with video. Stills are so 21st Century.)

      --
      Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
    2. Re:Could be really good by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      Flickr is really nice for following people who like to take more considered and composed photos than just random bits of this or that.

      The problem is, the number of photographers who like to take “more considered and composed photos” is not growing particularly fast (or maybe at all), while the selfie-shooters keep inundating us with ever-accelerating piles of crap photos - what Instagram is good for.

      Yes, I am old - and I really don’t get the insistence that every image of a place needs to have the person taking the photo as the focus. When you’re at the Eiffel Tower, that should be the focus!

      I had a paid Flickr account for quite a number of years, but I eventually stopped. It didn’t seem like they were adding much which appealed to actual photographers - instead, they focused on trying to draw the phone-photo crowd.

      --
      #DeleteChrome
  2. Flickr by RandomFactor · · Score: 1

    I made a Flickr account ages ago, but never really used it.

    So the question is, is Flickr actually useful for sharing videos a la Youtube? If so, is it any less evil?

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    --- Mercutio was right.
    1. Re:Flickr by jader3rd · · Score: 1

      They probably have a lower max file size that Youtube. My sister mentioned having one video she wanted posted to flickr which bumped into it, but I've never hit that limit.

  3. Can't be any worse by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Than Verizon owning it.

    1. Re:Can't be any worse by applewax · · Score: 1

      Yes, thank God they're getting away from Verizon, and being acquired by another company whose core business is photography. I can't imagine anything good would have come from being owned by Verizon.

    2. Re:Can't be any worse by sheramil · · Score: 1

      O rly? Remember what happened to Photobucket?

    3. Re:Can't be any worse by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      No. What happened to Photobucket?

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      Velociraptor = Distiraptor / Timeraptor
  4. They better not cut back on storage by jader3rd · · Score: 1

    1TB free is the primary reason why I used flickr. That and that's where all of my siblings post their pictures.

    1. Re:They better not cut back on storage by itsme1234 · · Score: 1

      With google offering a very seamless "unlimited" if you let them "scale down" to 16Mpixel or 1080p (more than enough for all casual users) I see it unlikely that flickr will put any tighter limits than now, at least for total pictures.

    2. Re:They better not cut back on storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DeviantART has no limit.

  5. Not really good for video by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Flickr is really only good for stills. One thing SmugMug could do is really improve support for videos, including 360 video playback...

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  6. I have over 24,000 pix on Flickr by shubus · · Score: 1

    Yes, that's a lot of photos and I'm worried. How long before they start changing things and turn Flickr into crap? They say "no changes" - but by now we've learned not to believe such statements from tech companies. It's a wakeup call that my pix may become lost and I'd best start moving them NOW.

    1. Re:I have over 24,000 pix on Flickr by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      You don't have backups?!?

      I've been a Smugmug customer for years and they have really good terms of service, the best of which is they don't claim rights to my photographs.

    2. Re: I have over 24,000 pix on Flickr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Samsung just pulls them right off your device.

    3. Re:I have over 24,000 pix on Flickr by shubus · · Score: 2

      Of course I have backups! But all these pics are ORGANIZED on Flickr....much more than just a photo stream.

    4. Re:I have over 24,000 pix on Flickr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How long before they start changing things and turn Flickr into crap?

      That already happened under Yahoo's watch.
      Remember the great 'Web 2.0' overhaul of the site that drove many to quit ?
      It went from an easy to use site, to a sluggish piece of crap overnight.

      Just for shits and giggles, I've just tried looking at a friends Flickr stream, took over 40 seconds for the first 4 pics to show... and no, it's not my network connection.
      Gone are the small thumbnails that loaded quickly, now some turtle-neck wearing twat has followed the current fashion of making content as big as possible on a page. My friend has 1000's of photos, yet the morons at Flickr have figured the best way to show them isn't with thumbnails in a grid, but to scale it so only 6 photos fit on a screen at once!
      I don't think I've gone more than a couple of minutes on Flickr before giving up with the constant frigging scrolling.

      So I hope they're lying with their 'no changes', I hope they get rid of the requirement for a Yahoo login, and I hope whoever 'designed' the makeover has an accident involving their naughty bits and a cheesegrater.

    5. Re: I have over 24,000 pix on Flickr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flickr is my backup you insensitive clod.

    6. Re:I have over 24,000 pix on Flickr by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Given I've been a Smugmug customer for years because they provide a better service than Flickr (and others) if anything I'd expect the Flickr service to improve.

      It may change prices, but Macaskill and his team put proper engineering, customer centricity and business nous into Smugmug and it would be a surprise if they abandon that with Flickr.

      Incidentally https://www.uploadjunction.com... might be useful for you. Or Smugmug offer tools to migrate to them ;)

  7. Does it target ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I want to know is if my data is being analyzed and resold, as far as I understand smugmug sells photos and clothing with the pictures, does that mean perhaps they will be more secure?

    1. Re:Does it target ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here is the problem I see. Let us presume you find an online service which seems trustworthy, scoring less that 3 out of 10 on the Zuckerberg-Satan index. You sign up, but 5 years down the road they get acquired by another bigger online monster fish, with a much higher Z-S index. Now you're screwed. Doesn't look to hopeful for this Internet dream thing we all had back in the 90's, does it? And it is not a problem that is possible to "fix".

    2. Re:Does it target ads? by Cederic · · Score: 2

      as far as I understand smugmug sells photos and clothing with the pictures

      You misunderstand.

      Users of Smugmug can choose to enable sale of photographs but it is the photographer's choice and not that of Smugmug. Smugmug make little if anything from those sales too, the fees go to the printers.

      The professional grade accounts on Smugmug can choose the prices and receive the income too. They can also use more expensive print shops should they choose.

      None of my galleries have sales enabled.

  8. Unless the new license terms.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Involve facial recognition against all existing photographs in its database. 'SmugMug' after all, how do you think they made their money?

  9. Not that great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've met some of the people at SmugMug and at that time, at least a good almost 10 years ago, they were all very much Holy Rollers and quite religious. I don't imagine them being very permissive with stuff on Flickr. Then again, I haven't used Flickr in ages so it might be an improvement..

    1. Re: Not that great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They should have prayed for a better company name.

  10. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You just can't stop talking about children in a sexual manner, can you?

    Complete your personal transformation and get the fuck off this site.

  11. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think "cool kids" refers to children, "naughty bits" is legal porn, and some of the better legal porn is coming out Russia since California ruined the U.S. porn industry with its condom law.

  12. Not a problem for what it is though by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    The problem is, the number of photographers who like to take âoemore considered and composed photosâ is not growing particularly fast (or maybe at all), while the selfie-shooters keep inundating us

    That's not a problem for Flickr though - at least anymore.

    Under Yahoo they may have wanted that kind of growth from Flickr. But SmugMug is an owner used to more serious photographic professionals, so they will understand that the growth will be much slower than Instagram or the like.

    It didnâ(TM)t seem like they were adding much which appealed to actual photographers - instead, they focused on trying to draw the phone-photo crowd.

    I've been a paid Flickr user for many years and am currently. I don't think it's exactly right to say the focused on the phone-photo crowd so much as they overhauled the UI to look much better on modern devices. All of the features more processional users like (like EXIF shot summaries) are still there, they would be gone if Flickr had been trying to go after phone photographers as a primary customer...

    And again, as noted SmugMug is an owner used to dealing with real photographers so whatever changes they make should consider people with more serious cameras above phone photographers.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Not a problem for what it is though by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      I find this buyout mildly amusing since, way back when I was first considering a paid online photo service, I kept vacillating between SmugMug and Flickr - and eventually went with Flickr. What goes around, comes around - Flickr customers are now SmugMug customers.

      I really hope it works out for both. I am glad Flickr’s back in the hands of people who care about photography.

      --
      #DeleteChrome
    2. Re:Not a problem for what it is though by coofercat · · Score: 1

      The single quickest way to find a half-way decent Creative Commons photo to use in your next work presentation or social media post is Flickr. Flickr is still well stocked with good quality snaps and 'proper photography' that has a working 'search by license', and doesn't have some weird download requirement that tries to trick you into paying or getting subscription or whatever. Other sites exist, but you'd have to visit a dozen of them to get a similar choice of pictures to choose from.

      Flickr's not "on the up" like it once was, but hopefully SmugMug will at least keep the good bits.

    3. Re:Not a problem for what it is though by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Great points, all of my own work there is carefully marked with Creative Commons licenses so others can use, I also felt like the licensing part was well done.

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      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    4. Re:Not a problem for what it is though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if the license isn't there, Flickr allows you to easily contact the owner and ask.
      I've had multiple people hit me up for the right to use my photos, and I almost always say yes.

  13. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry Cdreimer. Did I miss the subtleties of your latest comments about children and sex? Maybe you should write a lengthy blog post clarifying your position on sex with children. It would go great along with the dozens of other Slashdot posts you made about that, before being banned.

  14. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's no "cdreimer" on this thread. The only person talking children and sex is YOU. Are you a Russian pedophile?

  15. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haha creimer! Your total view count for your feces youtube channel goes down because the algorithm removes your stupid click bot views!

    You have now less than 0 views a day on your youtube channel ( -23, -19 ) but that's OK, you are used to be in the negative territory with Slashdot so it shouldn't make much of a difference for you...

    Estimated earnings: $-0.01 - $-0.12

    Don't forget to send youtube a check!

    CROFLOL!

    2018-04-20
    Fri
    --
    14
    +170
    12,249
    $0.05 - $0.86
    2018-04-21
    Sat
    --
    14
    -23
    12,226
    $-0.01 - $-0.12
    2018-04-22
    Sun
    --
    14 LIVE
    -19
    12,207
    $-0.01 - $-0.10
    --
    Balena!

  16. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't understand how the youtube algorithm works you creimertard! The youtube algorithm likes externals links from Slashdot spam and the click-bot views.

    You will see when creimer manages to do better than Philip DeFranco!

  17. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear Team Creimer,

    Contact me ASAP please, I have AI click bots that don't get detected by the youtube algorithm and I could make them available to you!

    -Granny

    Dear Team Creimer,

    I just noticed that the Humpty-Dumpty video has ~375 millions views, that should make you salivate!

    I have plenty of ideas to make the views on your own youtube channel skyrocket but you didn't contact me yet. Is it because I am a lady? Ethell says that you are sexist but I hope it isn't true.

    Anyway, I will give you a free hint anyway: Dress-up as Humpty in your videos, you shouldn't need that much makeup making this a money saving situation in your own case.

    My YouTube channel has 222K subscribers and many videos with hundreds of thousands of views:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Now, with some slight adjustments, I think that together, we could make the view count skyrocket on your very own Team Creimer youtube channel :)

    Please feel confident to contact me if you want me to coach you, we aren't living so far away from each other so we could even easily meet.

    Love XX,

    --
    -Granny

  18. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There you are again posting child sex oriented material with yet another fake account, you revenue stream hogging disgusting fat sexist tube of lard, Christopher Dale Reimer!

    You can be sure I will be watching this fake account too. I know this is you because you told me you were working on your freepass 11 file server and you are so dumb that you can't even masquerade yourself properly.

    Now, I told you I was out of meds last week and you didn't even care to contact me you lazy fucker.

    How many times do I have to express the emergency of the situation??????

    The python click script you wrote for my pheromone revenue stream web site suddenly stopped to work!!!!!!

    You fucking incompetent python script writer!!!

    When it works, I get 4000+ clicks a day on my pheromone revenue stream web site but only 5 or 6 without it!!!!

    Now, it seems like you dont care and that you have abandoned me you heartless fucking pig!

    Bonus:
    Here is a story that creimer told me when convincing me what a hard life he had:

    The tree was him and the tree knot was his butt hole!

    So, his uncle packed his fat ass with lard and with his cock! Not that it makes much of a difference but anyway, there it is!

    Signed:
    Ethell, The girl that used to love you and now hates you, burn in hell where you belong you sexist pig!

  19. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come on Granny PottyMouth! Leave Chris alone, he is a patient of ours!

    It seems like Chris is a victim here. He keeps on reading those SEO, youtube algorithm, basically get rich quick sites. He doesn't realize that he is the fish for them since they make money off him with their own schemes. Then, he wastes his time trying to implement what those sites suggest and he ends up disturbing people.

    I mean, those crooks tell Chris that he has to build personal brands and he goes on the Internet and makes everything about himself public!

    I believe we should bring this up at our next meeting. He might not be our only patient victim of such on-line abuse.

    --
    Silvia Bunge
    Psychology Department
    University of California, Berkeley

  20. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CREIMER' SUBMISSIONS UPDATE:
    Note also that creimer is trying to regain karma by getting his submissions published as articles on /. so make sure to go to:
    https://slashdot.org/~__aaclcg...
    https://slashdot.org/~IDrinkFa...
    https://slashdot.org/~_sharp'r...
    https://slashdot.org/~crreimer
    https://slashdot.org/~cdreimer
    https://slashdot.org/~criss69
    https://slashdot.org/~Anonymou...
    https://slashdot.org/~FatCashe...
    https://slashdot.org/~ILoveFat...
    https://slashdot.org/~IHateFat...
    https://slashdot.org/~IAteFatC...
    https://slashdot.org/~ITapeFat...
    https://slashdot.org/~IApeFatC...
    https://slashdot.org/~IPrayFat...
    https://slashdot.org/~FatCashe...
    and mod down his submissions as well. The great thing is that you don't even need mod points to mod down a submission, just click on the "minus" icon!

    Yes, believe it or not, creimer owns all the above sock puppet accounts. It is a mystery why Slashdot management tolerates it!

    creimer wrote:

    I don't bother with mod points. I'm doing something much more sinister. It took ten story submissions ? I'll have to double check the number ? to move cdreimer's karma from neutral to excellent without ever being exposed to the capricious mods. Mmmmmwwwwahahahahahahaha!

    https://slashdot.org/comments....

    Danger, Will Robinson, Danger! Creimy is posting more than 2 posts a day. Hurry! mod down otherwise /. will go to hell again!

    Note: you can mod down even if already at -1 to lower karma and to prevent lost /. users to accidentally mod up.

    creimer wrote:

    All you need to do is find a website with a permissive TOS, say, Slashdot, create a Python script to scrape your own comments, sprinkle Amazon affiliate links in various posts, and then re-post past links whenever possible. Won't be long before you start making "coffee money" each month.

    https://slashdot.org/comments....

    C.D. Reimer is a renowned Slashdot collaborator, as he puts it himself; "Because of the quality of my posts and my article submissions, I'm a highly rated commentator and moderator."

    But does anybody ever wondered what "C.D." stands for? Well, it stands for Creimy Dumpty of course!

    Creimy Dumpty sat on the wall,
    Creimy Dumpty had a great fall.
    All the king's horses
    And all the king's men
    Couldn't put Creimy Dumpty
    Together again.

    Creimy's siblings video and theme song, very realistic, especially the pants, just like Creimy's:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    With "Vice President Pence Vowing US Astronauts Will Return To the Moon", we are sure they will need miracle workers up there, here is what it would look like. Note that Creimy takes care of bringing a lot of food to the moon as depicted below:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Creimy's real pictures:
    Before the sex change:
    https://ibb.co/cc7Ddw
    After t

  21. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear cdreimer,

    Our Humpty-Dumpty video went from ~375 millions views to ~407 millions views. That's better than minus 23 views a day!

    We are sure that you played a big part in our success so we would like to sincerely thank you for your invaluable support!
    --
    The CVS Team

  22. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Same here for us! Thanks cdreimer!

    Our "creimy the mountain" video went from 171 views to 1,619 due to you, cdreimer. Thanks a lot!
    --
    Moon Unit Zappa

  23. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for the backup support Silvia!

    I just made it home from my week-end trip and I will have agents on the field take action immediately.

    Chris' case is getting worse, he spends all day replying to himself as AC on /. and now, on YouTube in order to grab attention!

    The tests we ran on Chris have shown that Chris has the intelligence of an ameba:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    So, technically, he is able to conceive some kind of agenda but it will be silly or impossible to follow on a human scale.

    For example, Chris had an agenda to post anything he felt like on Slashdot which did not work well because it was based on his false beliefs that he had an infinite number of karma points as he wrote here several times.

    Several people here explained to Chris that karma maxed out at some level like 50 or so but Chris kept on insisting that his python script had confirmed that he had millions of karma points!

    Oh well, as I wrote before: "It isn't Chris' fault if he is the way he is. We do the best we can do with him and he is partially integrated into society. We try to cure his abnormal need for attention but he is kind of stubborn and won't listen to anybody."

    For the valuable /. users that might already have read the following, please note that there is an important update.

    IMPORTANT UPDATE:
    Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education has invested money to buy Chris a new chair:
    http://www.keynamics.com/image...

    Information about Christopher Dale Reimer and autistic people:

    Autistic people have obsessions about things normal people don't care. For example, one of our autistic patient went haywire when he realized that there was a penny missing in his pocket change.

    To calm him down, one of our educator pretended to have found it on the floor and gave a penny to him.

    The autistic patient condition went even worse because he realized it wasn't the same penny!

    Chris has an obsession with budgeting every penny. He doesn't understand that most people do not budget to the penny and have a flexible amount they allow for miscellaneous items.

    I am Nancy Guerrero and I am Director of Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education. We use Chris' (a.k.a. creimer,cdreimer) picture in our document because he is the hardest case we have ever had to handle:
    http://www.sccoe.org/depts/stu...

    Our artists were inspired by the low carb diet that Christopher follows scrupulously for the small lunch box and by the picture linked below for the rest. I am sure that you will notice the similarities such as the bump on the side of his chest and more:
    https://ibb.co/gVad65

    Please be easy on Christopher although, I am aware that some of our staff handling Chris post joke comments here and obvoiusly, the Santa Clara County Office of Education disapprove that behavior vehemently:
    http://ibb.co/mRVSaG

    But it isn't Chris' fault if he is the way he is. We do the best we can do with him and he is partially integrated into society. We try to cure his abnormal need for attention but he is kind of stubborn and won't listen to anybody.

    Thank You dear users,
    ---
    Nancy Guerrero
    Director
    Special Education
    Santa Clara County Office of Education

  24. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ouch creimer! That sure constitutes a strike for your youtube channel file!

    I see no more creimer video when I search for "silicon valley comic con 2018"!

    I guess the youtube algorithm doesn't like your style as much as you pretend!

  25. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you a 48 year old man pretending to be a30 year old woman, calling somebody else creepy?

  26. I have an idea by slashmydots · · Score: 0

    How to compete with Tumblr: Step 1: don't be a liberal SJW paradise shithole of a site that bans anything remotely conservative and praises mental illness

    1. Re:I have an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't be a liberal SJW paradise shithole of a site that bans anything remotely conservative and praises mental illness

      Or, you know, stop being an asshole, stop defending your right to be an asshole, and stop blaming the world for the fact that nobody believes your stupid ideas and don't want them imposed on them.

      Conservatives are the perpetual victims, while at the same time trying to force the rest of us to accept your stupidity.

      We don't give a fuck about your right to be an asshole and a moron. Come up with stuff based on facts and evidence instead of your feels, and you might get taken seriously. Keep spewing shit which runs counter to facts, and you'll continue to be treated like the drooling idiots you present yourselves as.

  27. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's a swoooosh, Chris? Is it the sound donuts make when you inhale them in your toothless, unkissed mouth?

  28. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "There's no "cdreimer" on this thread."

    Creimer crammar detected. That defective slab of rancid fish guts in your large, thick skull gives you away every time, Chris.

  29. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2018-04-23 Mon +1 15 LIVE +9 12,230 $0.00 - $0.04

    Holy shit! Another subscriber and positive numbers.

  30. Creimer, the transsexual titqueen that FCLM craves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the signs are there.
    He really really enjoys pretending to be a woman just doing what he thinks are normal 30 year old girl things.
    Most of all though, FatCashewsLovesMe is obsessed with him, and FatCashewsLovesMe is adamant that he loves all trannies.
    Can FatCashews divinely inspired love of trannies see straight through Chris's blubbery exterior to the transsexual inside?

  31. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here he is pretending to have a collection of "plastic dildos"
    It's interesting that his idealized 30 year old woman would have histrionic tendencies.

  32. Re:Flickr is still around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2018-04-23 Mon +2 16 LIVE +27 12,248 $0.01 - $0.11

    Double holy shit! Another subscriber and more positive numbers!

  33. Re:Creimer, the transsexual titqueen that FCLM cra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But you also have said you like Chris. Have you considered that this is because deep down he's a buxom woman?

  34. Re:Creimer, the transsexual titqueen that FCLM cra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure Chris, I like you. You're a child-like adult who had a rough childhood, probably surrounded by people who weren't very good at parenting you.

  35. Re:Creimer, the transsexual titqueen that FCLM cra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not creimer. I'm the guy who modded you up to positive karma for awhile last year.
    Creimer never admits to being fat or having tits unless it's one of his ingenuine pity parties and he never jokes about your tranny fetish.