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Cow Could Soon Be Largest Land Mammal Left Due To Human Activity, Says Study (theguardian.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: The cow could be left as the biggest land mammal on Earth in a few centuries, according to a new study that examines the extinction of large mammals as humans spread around the world. The spread of hominims -- early humans and related species such as Neanderthals -- from Africa thousands of years ago coincided with the extinction of megafauna such as the mammoth, the sabre-toothed tiger and the glyptodon, an armadillo-like creature the size of a car. "There is a very clear pattern of size-biased extinction that follows the migration of hominims out of Africa," the study's lead author, Felisa Smith, of the University of New Mexico, said of the study published in the journal Science on Thursday. Humans apparently targeted big species for meat, while smaller creatures such as rodents escaped, according the report, which examined trends over 125,000 years. In North America, for instance, the mean body mass of land-based mammals has shrunk to 7.6kg (17lb) from 98kg after humans arrived. If the trend continues "the largest mammal on Earth in a few hundred years may well be a domestic cow at about 900kg", the researchers wrote. That would mean the loss of elephants, giraffes and hippos. In March, the world's last male northern white rhino died in Kenya.

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  1. Cows? by UncleTogie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are moose endangered or something?

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    1. Re:Cows? by DalM · · Score: 4, Informative

      It won't be hunting.
      It'll be habitat loss.

    2. Re:Cows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And the end of the cows will come when meat and milk substitutes become cheaper and better than 'cow'

    3. Re:Cows? by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 5, Interesting

      >> If the trend of hunting the larger animals for meat continues for 300+ years..

      Here in the US the primary threat to large (wild) mammal population is habitat loss, not hunting. The hunting permit system is such that Hunters spend giant piles of money on conservation to combat this problem.

      There is a fantastic example of this working in my home state, Tennessee. Elk were hunted out of the state more than a century ago, but hunters paid to reintroduce them in 2000. There are ~500 in the state now. ... And yes, you can hunt them, if you are willing to drop the price of a decent used car to buy the permit.

      Want more Moose? Take up hunting.

    4. Re:Cows? by dasunt · · Score: 4, Informative

      In Minnesota, moose populations are having difficulty with warmer winters leading to a higher parasite load (ticks). The warmer summers also stresses them.

      In addition, at least one study has forecasted that with the expected amount of global warming, Minnesota forests will turn to grasslands in about a hundred years. The prairie/forest border will move up to the area of Thunder Bay, Ontario.

      So at least where I'm at, moose may be locally extinct in a hundred years.

    5. Re:Cows? by aix+tom · · Score: 2

      Hey, if God wanted us to fly, he would have given us first class tickets.

    6. Re: Cows? by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Do you know what happens in the US when the population of a game animal gets too large? The next season the bag limit is raised or more permits are issued. This is repeated until wildlife management authorities determine that the population is back to sustainable levels.

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    7. Re:Cows? by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Informative

      so never? meat and milk substitutes still suck arse, only vegans and vegetarians or the ignorant make the claims that it tastes almost as good.

      While it indeed will take like 50-100 years for fake meat to approach the real thing, you can bet on certain governments banning actual meat within less than 20 years of fakes entering mass production.

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    8. Re:Cows? by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Informative

      That is a nice theory, except that all of the hunters I know would prefer to hunt caribou to hunting white tailed deer. According to the sources I have seen, the spread of white tailed deer has more to do with agricultural practices which expand their habitat at the expense of the habitat of boreal caribou (the subspecies of caribou which inhabited Minnesota at one time).

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    9. Re:Cows? by ravenshrike · · Score: 3, Informative

      Poaching for their horns to sell in the Chinese woowoo medicine market is what killed the rhinos off. Not people going out to hunt them for the purpose of hunting them.

    10. Re:Cows? by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 3

      > where corruption is high or where governments are basically non-existant, it's going to fail.

      Corruption can be a problem, but it can work too. Zimbabwe, a bastion of corruption free governance, has strict controls on hunting and is extremely tough on poachers. They have a financial incentive to do so; the revenue from hunting pays for their salaries and the land for wildlife preserves.

      In my home state we have 1.2 million acres of public hunting lands under management by our Wildlife and Resources agency. It's paid for entirely through license fees and taxes on sporting equipment (primarily ammunition taxes). That's what paid for the Elk program. They also relocate bears away from human dense areas and are working to eliminate (invasive) wild hogs too. They also partnered with the Feds to bring back red wolves to one of our National Parks, but afaik those aren't a stable population (yet).

    11. Re:Cows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you still drink coffee or eat soy products? Those cause more deforestation than any amount of ranching or livestock raising.

    12. Re:Cows? by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 2

      I'm going to assume your response is in good faith and not some darker motive.

      The primary cause for the loss of Rhino populations is uncontrolled hunting and poaching. Rhino horn is, for reasons I cannot fathom, a valuable commodity. Picture them as Gold bars on the hoof. In a classic tragedy of the commons, people have harvested these gold bars and killed off 95% of the population. They are literally killing the goose that laid the golden egg.

      If Rhino hunting was controlled by permitting then you can restrict the number of animals harvested to a sustainable level. When there are too many you allow harvesting of both sexes. When there aren't enough you reduce the bag limits and allow taking of only males. The money from permits can go to prevent poaching and create protected habitats.

      Realistic wildlife conservation requires management, not benign neglect.

    13. Re:Cows? by Shotgun · · Score: 2

      So hunting white rhinoceros or elephants or dolphins or any other animal would increase their numbers?

      South Africa experimented with letting farmer raise rhinoceros for income. The rhinoceros population rebounded. But, then PETA complained and the country started banning the practice again.

      So, yes. Legalizing the hunting WILL increase the numbers, because there will be an incentive for people to provide resources to keep them around.

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    14. Re:Cows? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      You think too small. There was an article the other day about attempts to resurrect a mammoth or mastadon.

      I dare say in well less than 300 years every species extinct since the last ice age will be resurrected. This includes dodos, sabertooth tigers, that oddball giant bird in that old photograph from Australia, and many more. Tiny horses, maybe even the tiny humans from that island and neanderthals, though those raise greatly increased ethical issues.

      I am opposed to recycling for either resource usage, pollution control, or "running out of landfill space", a leftover 1970s innumeracy scare, because in the not too distant future people will bid on the right to rip landfills open and have robots sort everything for profit.

      People will wonder why we were so stupid and short-sighted. Don't worry about species extinction.

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    15. Re:Cows? by Khashishi · · Score: 2

      Do you still drink coffee or eat soy products? Those cause more deforestation than any amount of ranching or livestock raising.

      Bullshit. I won't comment on coffee, but almost all soy grown is used for livestock feed. Human consumption of soy is a drop in the bucket.

  2. The greatest evolutionary adaptation is: by DalM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Being tasty or useful to humans.

    1. Re:The greatest evolutionary adaptation is: by istartedi · · Score: 3, Informative

      Passenger pigeons were tasty. They're extinct. A lot of other animals were "useful" at one time and went extinct, such as colorful birds in North America that all got killed for lady's hats.

      Simply being tasty and/or useful apparently isn't enough; but it does help. Whales--almost extinct but huge, majestic, romantic. and protected *now*. That was a close call. Pandas! Whoah, big, furry, cute, stupid, and the PRC uses them as a symbol. These guys really have it dialed in; but they still almost got wiped out because of their specialized diet making it hard for them to live outside of their region. If panda evolution were really that great, they'd have figured out how to live on garbage.

      We have a critter that does that, and they even call it the "trash panda". Raccoons. Big. Sort of useful as rustic hats. You can eat them... but most people don't. It's dark meat, and really not as gamey as you'd think; but I digress. The trash panda is not endangered. It's adapted to us better than the other panda.

      I guess the point is... tasty and useful is trumped by a lot of other factors. I mean... roaches, gack! They're everywhere in the city, and we do all kinds of things to kill them but they just keep going. They're not useful. Only a few people obsessed with trying to make us all insectivores would call them tasty. The roach is hearty and omnivorous. It lives off our garbage.

      A better way to sum up the greatest evolutionary advantage would be: "being able to co-exist with humans".

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    2. Re:The greatest evolutionary adaptation is: by tinkerton · · Score: 3, Interesting
    3. Re:The greatest evolutionary adaptation is: by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Informative

      I dunno, cats are neither tasty nor particularly useful (unless you have a vermin problem), but have effectively enslaved millions of humans and risen to the top of the evolutionary pile.

      I'm hesitant to say that is an evolutionary adaptation, because it seems more like luck that they evolved to be highly efficient genocidal sociopaths and extremely compelling "pets" for a significant number of humans. So less adaptation and more blind luck, or a flaw in the human brain that makes it susceptible to abuse by fluffy balls of fur.

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    4. Re:The greatest evolutionary adaptation is: by DalM · · Score: 2

      ... less adaptation and more blind luck... .

      That's a good tagline for evolution in a nutshell.

  3. Not the first time the big ones have died off by AzariahK · · Score: 2

    Most mass extinction events end up with fewer large animals surviving, including those long before people arrived. See Lilliput effect. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilliput_effect) The point of the article in the summary is that people are driving this extinction event, but I'd be cautious about making that correlation too casually. We're also living in the only time in biological history when one species was trying to preserve the others.

  4. Re-introduction of species similar to ones extint by williamyf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've said it before and I'll say it again:

    Take species that are alive right now, and re-introduce tem in areas where animals similar to those species became extint.

    This is not unprecedented. In the pleistocene, there were horses in America, those became extint, and later re-introduced, with little or no effect in the ecosystem

    Same with the Hippos in colombia (imported by no other than Pablo Escobar Gaviria, of "Narco" fame). Here, the efect on the ecosystem is low, but since the animals are very territorial, the populalition has a relationship with them of "Awe and respect"

    In Venezuela there used to be an animal called Mixotoxodon Larensis, similar (but not related to) rhinos and hippos. It went all the way from brazil to Texas (the toxodon originated in patagonia, but our variation traveled more). We could re-introduce rhinos in venezuela and Brazil. Rhinos eat grass, like cows, so no biggie for the ecosystem, and are not a huge problem for humans (unlike Hippos hicha are VERY territorial).

    In Venezuela we used to have a thinguie called the mastodons (other parts of america had them too, they came from the north), similar to elephants, so we may as well adopt elephants, either african, assian or both. Again, vegetarians, big, no biggie for the environmet.

    Also, we used to have gavialoids (there are crocodiles, aligators, and gavials), but they became extinct, so may as well get gavials and "fake gavials" (which, funny enough, turned out to be true gavials ;-) ) which are on the brink to extintion, and re-deploy. Since they eat only fish, are no danger to humans, and could deploy in places with "bad" fish (think piranha or electric eels).

    I think a similar case could be made about the other continents.

    The opportunities are plentyfull, is just the disposition.

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  5. Study still wrong by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 3, Funny

    Being tasty or useful to humans.

    Which is exactly why this study has the wrong conclusion. Thanks to all those tasty cows helping to cause an obesity epidemic in a few centuries, the largest land mammal will be humans, not cows.

    1. Re:Study still wrong by ravenshrike · · Score: 2

      Yeah, it's not like I walked 5 miles every saturday(more often during summer break) starting at the age of 8 down and back to the local library during spring, summer, and fall or anything. It's not like the lack of lead in gasoline and paint has precipitously dropped crime rates from their heights in the late 80's early 90's and the idea that children are in more danger than ever before is complete and utter shite. No, the real answer is that I'm an internet tough guy.

  6. extrapolating even further by ooloorie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Even better, in 400 years, extrapolation shows that the larges land mammal will have negative mass.

    Negative mass is great news: not only can we use such animals for large scale balloon powered flight (in place of expensive helium or dangerous hydrogen), when such negative masses are properly arranged they can create wormholes, allowing for instantaneous interstellar travel!

  7. What about Bison by rossdee · · Score: 2

    We nearly made bison extunct, but these days we are farming them, and bison burgers do taste good...

  8. "... hominims..." -- Not so much. by brindafella · · Score: 2

    Sorry, but, "... hominims..." is wrong.

    However, "hominin" (or at a stretch "hominid") would be correct. See the diagram at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and see the original article that uses "hominin" liberally: http://science.sciencemag.org/...

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  9. Re:Uday and Qusay by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Having a bunch of entitled jackoffs running around Africa gunning down and mutilating big game doesn't help the situation.

    Actually, it does help. Big game hunters pay high fees that are used for habitat conservation. They also create jobs for local people that then see wildlife as an economic benefit, rather than just seeing them as crop/livestock destroying pests.

    Wildlife in Africa would be much better off if there were more Western big game hunters.

  10. Ummm what about equines by Tjp($)pjT · · Score: 2

    Horses can be much bigger than cattle.

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  11. Water Buffalo by HiThere · · Score: 2

    Aren't water buffalo larger than cows? I rather think that they are, and they are clearly not on their way out.

    That said, the "red list" is clearly an underestimate of the threatened animal species. It's more a list of "those in imminent danger this decade". It's really hard to figure out which species are in more distant danger of extinction. This partially depends on how the climate changes, and what unexpected events this causes. Someone above mentioned moose. They don't currently seem to be in danger, but they depend on a certain ecology, IIRC, they are browsers rather than grazers, so they need trees and shrubs they can eat, etc. If a warming climate dries out the territory where they're living and turns it into a grassland, they'll need to migrate, and often it turns out that new migration routes are blocked. That's not likely a "this decade" kind of danger, but it's an "if this goes on..." kind of danger.

    A lot of animals would do a lot better if people and fences didn't block their path to a better territory. But unlike most animals, people are even territorial about other species passing through their territory. (There are, of course, good reasons, but that doesn't change the problem.)

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  12. Re:Uday and Qusay by stealth_finger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wildlife in Africa would be much better off if there were more Western big game hunters.

    You might want to tell that to the white rhinoceros. There are three left in the world today because baby-dick failsons like Eric and Don Jr went around blasting them to hell,

    We're talking about guys whose "sport" requires that something die. They're sociopaths. There are better ways of managing wildlife than trophy hunting.

    I'm no fan of hunting but there's a big difference between it and poaching.

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  13. Bull. Not to be punny... by Petersko · · Score: 2

    "It's more likely to be two bucks a pound less than regular stuff, eventually and you probably won't be able to tell the difference either in terms of nutrition, taste or texture."

    Meat changes texture as it gets used. Chuck and tenderloin wind up being very different. Unless you've got a machine working that vat full of meat stuff, it's never going to have the taste and texture of the real thing.

  14. Bias by whodunit · · Score: 2

    I guess these researchers just plumb forgot that buffalo are still raised as domestic animals in much of the country. There's a ranch not a few miles from me that does, and a few local small-town eateries have "bison burgers" on the menu - expensive, but literally a nice change of taste on occasion.

    I hate it when scientists do this - massage facts for better PR impact (the link between cows and human domestication for human use is much stronger than with bison.) Those worthies among us who worship "The Science" with pseudoreligious zeal take exception to those who can't reconcile that faith with the less-than-saintly deviations scientists make into PR.

    Somewhere along the line, scientists figured out that if journalists could twist their papers into moronic headlines and get away with it, then they could write the headlines into their conclusions and do the same. What a shitshow.

  15. Doing my part by jwhyche · · Score: 2

    I'm doing my part. I'm eating as many of the damn things as I can!

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