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Trump Meets With Apple's Tim Cook To Talk Trade (reuters.com)

New submitter genfail shares a report from Reuters: President Donald Trump met with Apple CEO Tim Cook on Wednesday to discuss trade issues as the technology industry grapples with a U.S. spat over import tariffs with China, a manufacturing hub for the iPhone maker and other companies. Apple, the world's largest technology company, and other hardware makers have deep ties with China, where many of their products are built for export around the world. Cook urged an easing of U.S.-China tensions and called for more open trade after the trade dispute flared last month between the world's two largest economies. Trump announced about $50 billion in planned tariffs on certain Chinese imports, China retaliated with proposed tariffs on some American goods and Trump responded that the United States could counter with $100 billion in additional levies. U.S. and Chinese officials have been working to resolve the dispute.

33 comments

  1. We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    When every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie, and every word that goes in one ear comes out the other, and every promise he makes is just as easily broken, what's the point of meeting with the orange traitor?

    1. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by greenwow · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Someone over a year ago on Microsoft NBC said something along the lines that "we take what Trump says too seriously and what he does not seriously enough." Sounds like you're in that category. He's much more careful with his actions than his mouth.

    2. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      For a Democrat, only words matter, never actions or facts.

      This is why they still think Obama is the greatest president ever, and really deserved that Nobel Peace Prize.

    3. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump's words are going to lead to a federal prison cell. All that matters about Republicans, they're willing to be traitors to back a fraud so long as it has their colors. Sad! Drumpftard dies in prison either way, lol, along with traitor sons.

    4. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like he thinks the presidency is like negotiating business deals. I was recently involved with discussions with Ignition Partners for an investment in a start-up I co-founded, and they played that game. Brad Silverberg was a founding partner there, and he was on the stage with Bill Gates during the release event for Windows 95, so they're a pretty serious organization. There was a definite disconnect between what they said and what they did. They were insulting and belittling during negotiation, but their written proposals were all fair and well thought-out. Trump just doesn't get that in his new position he needs to be diplomatic. He's being pretty effective since just this week I've read about three instances of him keeping campaign promises and his tax cuts were a huge win for him (if not for all of us), so we're giving him bad feedback.

      Posted AC for obvious reasons.

    5. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Trump's words

      I think you're proving the GGP's point about actions over words. So far I can't think of anything he's done that goes against what he promised during his campaign. Right or wrong, he is doing what the people that voted for him elected him to do. I voted for Obama twice, but I was disappointed in the great gap between what he talked about and what he actually did. Some of the specific things are closing Gitmo, eliminating all oil and gas tax loopholes, increasing childcare deductions, eliminate corporate deductions for CEO pay, mortgage deduction for people that don't itemize (big for me since I live in Seattle and own an expensive, but crappy house), tax carried interest as ordinary income (even though this would hurt me since I work for a start-up that pays me mostly with equity), forbid bonuses for companies in bankruptcy, reduce FMLA from 50 employees to 25 (which would be huge for me since I work for a company with 49 employees and we intentionally stay below the 50 number), 7 paid sick days per year, better radiation detectors in ports (my wife works in the port of Seattle and they've done no upgrades since Bush was president), five day delay on bills (this one would have been huge for fighting FOSTA), and about two dozen more.

    6. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just ironically proved the "we take what Trump says too seriously and what he does not seriously enough" point. All thinking people disagree with Trump, but he is keeping is campaign promises and doing what his voters elected him to do even if it's morally wrong like raising rents on Section 8 housing in order to force people to work which is slavery.

    7. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anytime you find yourself thinking perhaps Trump is playing 3D chess, you should immediately study your own conclusions and find the obvious flaws. The man is a petulant, insecure narcissist, not some deep thinking political operative. If he moves slowly, it's because his rash acts have been blocked at every turn by the courts and by his own advisers, and he simply lacks the skill to move the levers of power in D.C. Thank God, and I say this as a Republican.

      Cautious my ass.

    8. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Virtue signaling is the term you're looking for. As a progressive, it is maddening to see politicians only talk about things rather than doing them. Or, they propose things they know won't stand like the proposed income tax here in Seattle which goes against the state constitution or taxes for each employee to discourage hiring.

    9. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The President isn't a dictator, or even get to introduce legislation, which intentionally constrains action. Trump promised a new act to replace ACA, but Congress said no, for example.

    10. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The phrase from the campaign was "Trump voters take him seriously, not literally. His detractors take him literally, not seriously."
      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/trump-makes-his-case-in-pittsburgh/501335/

      Meanwhile the multiple superseding travel bans and continuous resignations of White House personnel show that Trump isn't anymore careful with his actions though there's some evidence that his senior staff have tried to reign in his worst tendencies.

    11. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by gtall · · Score: 1

      You mean his alleged administration is more careful about their actions. Trump has the attention span of gnat.

    12. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty much the only promise Obama did make good on was repealing DADT... ... after dragging his feet on it for years until Chelsea Manning got sick of his lying, pandering bullshit, leaked the war logs and forced Obama to repeal DADT in the hopes that more disgruntled, disappointed military personnel don't leak anything from further up the chain.

    13. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      For I g people to support their self is not slavery! Wtf is wrong with people.. Gimme gimme gimme is all that matters now a days nobody wants to work to better their self they just want free shit.

    14. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Forcing*

    15. Re:We'll make Mexico pay for the trade war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to paraphrase use single marks 'paraphrase' around the words, instead of double marks "quotation".

  2. Will Trump help Cook by Spy+Handler · · Score: 3, Funny

    make Apple great again?

    Or will Cook help Trump think different?

    1. Re:Will Trump help Cook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump, think? Ha. Waste of time, nobody does that anymore.

    2. Re:Will Trump help Cook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cook will slap Trump to death with his hanky.

    3. Re:Will Trump help Cook by gtall · · Score: 1

      It never pays to feed the troll. The best thing Cook can do is run the other way whenever Trump comes calling.

  3. What, was Tim Cook visiting a Federal Prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh right it's still 2018, not 2019 yet.

  4. Prices are going up up up .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Ops, Apple cannot make iPhones without China anymore? Good bye Apple!
    PC storage grown from $120 per unit up to $250
    Video Cards grow from $60 up $400
    High end Phones went up from $500 up to $1000
    And so on, prices are growing and the reason is the Americans don't make anything with their hands anymore and China wants more money for their work ....

  5. As opposed to who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tim Cook down the street?

  6. Well if we hope to detangle ourselves from trade a by edris90 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Honestly trade agreements are at the heart of a lot of the wars we fight for. Dissolving and breaking down of international trade agreements leads to Nations becoming more autonomous again which leads to Less Reason to give a shit what resources your neighbor has. If we can safely ignore each other then we can live in peace. It's not until the trade agreements are broken and dissolved the American people can get any control of their country back and dependent of Trump's intentions anything the breaks international trade is a good thing in the long run for freedom

  7. Re:Well if we hope to detangle ourselves from trad by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Except, of course, when your neighbor has resources you need but don't have. Things like water, farmland, scarce minerals, etc. That's actually why most wars are fought.

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  8. The numbers are wrong (again) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Journalists aren't expected to be good at math or economics, but this huge mistake keeps being repeated. The announced and threatened tariffs were NOT in the amounts of 50 or 100 billions of dollars. The goods the tariffs are to be imposed on are valued at 50 or 100 billions of dollars. The actual amount of the tariffs to be collected (that is, the additional cost imposed on American consumers) would be some percentage of that; perhaps 10%, 20% or 30%, depending on the tariff rates imposed.

  9. Re:Well if we hope to detangle ourselves from trad by gtall · · Score: 1

    Bullshit. The only reason the U.S. has the large economy it does is because of international trade.

    American people get control of their country back? To return to what, the 1950s?

  10. Re:Well if we hope to detangle ourselves from trad by taskiss · · Score: 2

    If my neighbor has a resource I don't have but trades me fairly for access to it, then war isn't in either of our best interests.

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  11. Sell out by thunderclees · · Score: 1

    Like the rest of the tech industry all of Apples products are made outside of the US, primarily in the PRC
    With the tax incentives for doing so and with the lure of slave labor in a country where retirement is measured in 9MM the wealthy were tripping over themselves to move operations out of the US.
    This was very shrewd of the PRC as it tied American wealth to the fortunes of the CPC
    So when the PRC is upset with something going on in the US government they talk to people like Cook and people like him tell politicians what to do

    Money talks, others walk

  12. Tim Cook Meeting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tim Cook meeting with Big Giant Orange Head to talk about trade, is like Richard Feynman meeting with an orangutan to talk about physics. Some shit may be thrown, drinks may be drunk, there may even be fun to be had! But no meaningful physics (or business) will be discussed.

    BGOH claims he is a Very Stable Genius and business leader. That's why he withdrew from the TPP and then decided maybe he wanted back in. That's why he launched a trade war with China then claimed it wasn't a trade war. That's why he thinks trade tariffs are Very Good and Easy, yet no business leaders, no economists, and no Chambers of Commerce agree with that. Even the Republican Party writ large has Yuge problems with Trump's actions on the business file.

    Cook's only goal here is to avoid becoming a Twitter target like Jeff Bezos is. The Twit In Chief is good at dragging people down but the only people he lifts up are himself, his family, and TrumpCo.

  13. Re: Well if we hope to detangle ourselves from tra by edris90 · · Score: 1

    People aren't here to help the economy. The economy is supposed to be here people. People are the value, the economy is just one tool of money that people attempt to use in the order to help themselves. But under no means some people be sacrificed to maintain the economy the economy can die but people can can adapt and live other ways and still have a reasonable chance at happiness in life. In the end that's the whole point is to have the highest percentage of happy people in our population possible and to genuinely look for more ways to eliminate to satisfaction in conflict. The economy is not a deity to be worshipped and it's causing a problem there's not a damn thing wrong with with doing things a different way and trying other things until we get a better result. That's how things get better. Every human system eventually becomes obsolete as the world changes, even economic systems