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Researchers Are Keeping Pig Brains Alive Outside the Body (technologyreview.com)

In a step that could change the definition of death, researchers have restored circulation to the brains of decapitated pigs and kept the reanimated organs alive for as long as 36 hours. From a report: The feat offers scientists a new way to study intact brains in the lab in stunning detail. But it also inaugurates a bizarre new possibility in life extension, should human brains ever be kept on life support outside the body. The work was described on March 28 at a meeting held at the National Institutes of Health to investigate ethical issues arising as US neuroscience centers explore the limits of brain science. During the event, Yale University neuroscientist Nenad Sestan disclosed that a team he leads had experimented on between 100 and 200 pig brains obtained from a slaughterhouse, restoring their circulation using a system of pumps, heaters, and bags of artificial blood warmed to body temperature.

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  1. Pure filth and evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This type of experimentation is absolutely evil. This should not be done, even to animals. This is possibly the cruelest thing I have ever heard. Leave it to human beings to invent something that's even worse than death. Because killing isn't bad enough, we need to invent a way to put things into a literal living hell.

    1. Re:Pure filth and evil by sinij · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, this is likely very cruel to pigs if they ever regain consciousness. Which is not given. This will also help treat trauma and organ failure patients and will save human lives.

    2. Re:Pure filth and evil by rogoshen1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So pretend a person is in a car accident and bleeds out. A procedure like this could be done to preserve the brain while the surgeons repair the wounds..

      Or while waiting on blood transfusion, or a donor organ.

      Your absolutely right, this has no practical application other than pig torture and every doctor's latent desire to emulate Frankenstein.

  2. I have no mouth and I must scream? by sl3xd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That said, there's living tissue and functioning tissue... I'm not sure this is the latter.

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  3. Summary missing key detail by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From TFA(and yes, turning in my slashdot card)

    There was no evidence that the disembodied pig brains regained consciousness. However, in what Sestan termed a “mind-boggling” and “unexpected” result, billions of individual cells in the brains were found to be healthy and capable of normal activity.

    So the brains are still dead. There is no consciousness, no functioning of the brain itself. All this really shows is something that really isn't a surprise: the brain cells don't die right away. Because the neurons are still dead, this is no different than keeping an arm or an organ alive outside the body. It might lead to some improvements with transplants, but until they can actually show renewed neuron activity in the brain, this idea is as dead as a slab of bacon.

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  4. The potential implications are staggering by Falconnan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Admittedly, the article suggests a comatose state. However, imagine being in this state: No sensory input from any normal sources. The potential for the final state of the body to translate into a sensation of pain from any/all possible sources. I understand the goal here, and maybe at some point this would be a viable option. However, to me, this is kind of terrifying. The animal cruelty implications aren't minor, either.

    1. Re:The potential implications are staggering by bigpat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Of course the ethical point of this is serious. Even if you could achieve human brain transplant. I mean,,,,,,the other host,,,,is or was someone else,,,how do you cope with that, the family sees their love ones walking and talking but with someone else's brain, brings me to Altered Carbon sci-fi series.

      Kind of really scary

      Kinda really scary... but... if we can achieve some sort of economically viable cloning/body growing technology. So say growing a new body costs about the same or less than buying a new car so most people can afford it, then I think that could be on balance a good thing for society and especially for individuals whose bodies become permanently disabled well before "their time".

      I think some aspect of Altered Carbon's view of a potential future are terrifying, especially if the ability to restore life in its fullest is reserved for the wealthy and a token few. We don't want to create a vampire class where the wealthy maintain their wealth and power over others simply by refusing to die while others remain poor simply because they don't live long enough to accumulate relative wealth.

      If economically viable for a great number of people, then the ability to live another lifetime in a younger healthier body could really improve our existence in a variety of ways and people would always retain the option to just to live out their existing natural lifespan and be done with it.

      In some scenarios it could make overpopulation worse, but society needs to adapt to the lower death rates we have already achieved with modern medicine regardless of any radical life extension that would be measured as a couple hundred years. Just random accidents and degradation of the brain itself will still cause attrition, unlike in the fictional Altered Carbon universe where it is a lot harder to die and the biological limitations of the brain are circumvented with a literary device.

      Speaking for myself, I think I could go for another couple rounds of a healthy youthful life.

  5. Re:Futurama by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nixons head must not be allowed to take over again!

    Given another Clinton/Trump choice in 2020 . . . I'll vote for the third party disembodied pig head, instead.

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  6. Re:Futurama by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd write in Cthulhu as the lesser evil.