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You Could Be Flirting On Dating Apps With Paid Impersonators (qz.com)

Chloe Rose Stuart-Ulin sheds some light on the world of paid impersonators on dating apps like Tinder. Here's an excerpt from the report: Every morning I wake up to the same routine. I log into the Tinder account of a 45-year-old man from Texas -- a client. I flirt with every woman in his queue for 10 minutes, sending their photos and locations to a central database of potential "Opportunities." For every phone number I get, I make $1.75. I'm what's called a "Closer" for the online-dating service ViDA (Virtual Dating Assistants). Men and women (though mostly men) from all over the world pay this company to outsource the labor and tedium of online dating. The matches I speak to on behalf of the Texan man and other clients have no idea they're chatting with a professional.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that these ghostwriting services exist. Tinder alone produces more than 12 million matches a day, and if you're a heterosexual American, you now have a one in three chance of meeting your future husband or wife online. But as e-romance hits an all-time high, our daily dose of rejection, harassment, and heartbreak creeps upward, too. Once you mix in the vague rules of netiquette and a healthy fear of catfishing scams, it's easy to see why someone might want to outsource their online-dating profile to a pro, if only to keep themselves sane. But where does the digital social assistant end and the con artist begin?

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  1. Weird by war4peace · · Score: 5, Informative

    I did this once, non-professionally, when a couple American friends came to visit me last year. One of them gave me his phone and asked me to help him talk to Romanian women on Tinder. While that didn't lead to getting his dick wet (due to lack of time, they only spent 3 days at the seaside), it was fun to talk to them as him and realize how much locals change their attitude and willingness to talk and meet if the person on the other end is an American.

    Eventually he got his dick wet through means of a professional :) but that's offtopic.

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    ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
  2. Re:Math doesn't work. by Desprez · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's no reason he can't be flirting with multiple women at once in a single 10 min block.

  3. No all he needs is a fiddle and a rooftop... by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hodel: Well, somebody has to arrange the matches, Young people can't decide these things themselves.
    Chava: She might bring someone wonderful----
    Hodel: Someone interesting----
    Chava: And well off----
    Hodel: And important---

    Matchmaker, Matchmaker, Make me a match, Find me a find, catch me a catch
    Matchmaker, Matchmaker
    Look through your book, And make me a perfect match

    Chava: Matchmaker, Matchmaker, I'll bring the veil, You bring the groom, Slender and pale.
    Bring me a ring for I'm longing to be, The envy of all I see.

    Hodel: For Papa, Make him a scholar.

    Chava: For mama, Make him rich as a king.

    Chava and Hodel: For me, well, I wouldn't holler
    If he were as handsome as anything.

    Matchmaker, Matchmaker, Make me a match, Find me a find, Catch me a catch, Night after night in the dark I'm alone
    So find me match, Of my own.

    Tzeitel: Since when are you in a match, Chava? I thought you had your eye on your books.

    (Hodel chuckles)

    Tzeitel con't: And you have your eye on the Rabbi's son.

    Hodel: Well, why not?
    We have only one Rabbi and he has only one son.
    Why shouldn't I want the best?

    Tzeitel: Because you're a girl from a poor family.
    So whatever Yenta brings, you'll take, right?
    Of course right!

    (throws scarf over her head, imitating Yenta)

    Hodel, oh Hodel, Have I made a match for you!
    He's handsome, he's young!
    Alright, he's 62.
    But he's a nice man, a good catch, true?
    True.

    I promise you'll be happy, And even if you're not, There's more to life than that---
    Don't ask me what.

    Chava, I found him.
    Won't you be a lucky bride!
    He's handsome, he's tall, That is from side to side.
    But he's a nice man, a good catch, right?
    Right.

    You heard he has a temper.
    He'll beat you every night, But only when he's sober, So you'll alright.

    Did you think you'd get a prince?
    Well I do the best I can.
    With no dowry, no money, no family background
    Be glad you got a man!

    Chava: Matchmaker, Matchmaker, You know that I'm Still very young. Please, take your time.

    Hodel: Up to this minute, I misunderstood, That I could get stuck for good.

    Chava and Hodel: Dear Yenta, See that he's gentle
    Remember, You were also a bride.
    It's not that
    I'm sentimental

    Chava and Hodel and Tzeitel: It's just that I'm terrified!

    Matchmaker, Matchmaker, Plan me no plans
    I'm in no rush
    Maybe I've learned
    Playing with matches
    A girl can get burned
    So, Bring me no ring
    Groom me no groom
    Find me no find
    Catch me no catch
    Unless he's a matchless match.

    (Lameness Filter is Lame - Longer lines than in the original courtesy of the not enough characters per line filter.)

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    The party of stupid and the party of evil get together and do something both stupid and evil, then call it bipartisan.
  4. Every once in a while by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I run across a story that makes me glad I’m an old guy... and this is one of them. I don’t know how you young’uns navigate these waters. I had a hard enough time just asking my now-wife out, way back in the day - and that was before all these peripheral complications existed.

    Oh Brave New World, that has such people in it!

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    #DeleteChrome
    1. Re:Every once in a while by arth1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Learn to dance, you'll love it. Top tip - people tend to make love the way they dance....

      Wot, you think I make love with bells on my legs wielding a stick and handkerchief?

  5. Re:cool by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Informative

    As multiple women told me, "women don't know what they want and they won't stop pestering you until they get it". Maybe that was it?

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    Ezekiel 23:20
  6. Nothing new here - was same on French "Minitel" by Bearhouse · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I once visited a potential software agent in France. They had a good accounting suite for IBM S/36 at the time, but I could not figure out how they had such an impressive office complex based on their small customer base.

    So, I got the technical manager sauced-up one evening and its turns out the basement was full of "Minitel rose" (pink, i.e. pron) servers. This was the 1980s, and it seems that online "Johns" were spending hours - and hundreds of bucks - every month hammering away on a tiny keyboard and getting all steamed-up over scrolling black and white horny text on an equally small screen. Rather sad.

    The joke was, the "best" online "sexters" were.....men! Easy money, working from home. Kinda like Chinese theatre I guess - women's roles are traditionally played by men, since "only a man knows how a woman is supposed to react". Equally sad.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/c...

  7. Re:cool by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

    This isn't really news though.

    Yes it is. This is totally different from what you describe. Both of your examples are of the site using fake profiles, which is well known (although I never heard of them hiring people to go on actual dates, and I am skeptical whether that really happened).

    TFA is describing members hiring people to impersonate them. So they are actually looking for a match, but are paying someone else to go through the tedium of sending introductory inquiries, and the back-and-forth chit-chat before exchanging contact info.

  8. I just closed all my dating accounts by slaker · · Score: 5, Informative

    I had a Match.com account for 21 years. I paid for it for about 10 years of that. I'd go to cancel and magically someone would start messaging me. Nothing ever came of it. I joined OKCupid and Plenty of Fish within a year of their launch and, by last February, I was to some degree active on 10 dating services.

    I've read books about how to game the systems. I've paid photographers and tried to get feedback on my dating profiles from tens of friends, acquaintances and even total strangers. I tried all manner of strategies in making first impressions, created multiple profiles and basically I've spent two or three hours a day trying to meet someone for over two decades.

    I'm not messaging models. I'm not holding anyone to any ridiculous standard; my sole filtering is that my partner be childless (which, admittedly, is much more difficult as I am now a person in my forties). But across platforms and years of effort, I might get a reply to one out of approximately 300 messages sent on a dating site. One out of ten of THOSE might lead to an ongoing conversation.

    I've been on seven dates in my entire life.

    And before anyone says that I need to work on myself: I have over the last 20 years gone from an obese BMI to a healthy one. I do work out and dress like an adult. I have solid academic achievements, a good job and a life-long interest in fine arts. I can carry a conversation. I'm not terribly attractive but I'm also not ugly. Fundamentally, I would call myself unremarkable but certainly not unacceptable.

    I did finally outsource Tinder, Bumble and Coffee Meets Bagel to a sympathetic friend, albeit mostly because I refuse to agree to Facebook's terms of service. I paid for her to get a new phone in exchange for her work on my behalf. It didn't help. No better luck was had.

    I cannot think of an activity less rewarding. Dating sites seem to be actively hostile to almost everyone who uses them. Women are barraged with harassment. Ordinary guys might as not even exist. No one is happy with the state of affairs, but I'm not a person who is going to do well in a bar or other traditional meeting-space and I already teach adult education, I don't see what other choice might be available. I have a great deal of free time now that I don't spend time on dating sites. I get a lot more reading done, but I also have a lot more anxiety at the parts of life that I have failed to experience. There doesn't seem to be a way out of this particular loop. I wish I could have those many thousands of hours and all of the hope of my life back.

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    -- I wanna decide who lives and who dies - Crow T. Robot, MST3K
  9. Timeshare arrangements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm a high class escort in the UK and have used dating sites to find love in my personal life but buy and large most dating sites are full of men looking for a free fuck or men I wouldn't look twice at.

    The way I view this is simple.You could spend hundreds or even thousands chasing love online via an agency or pay a defined amount for the GFE (Girlfriend Experience) I offer. Like, imagine me as a timeshare girlfriend. I always wear decent makeup and something nice with style and taste. Sex is not an issue. If you want to stick your cock in stick your cock in. If you prefer a chat or watching a movie or visiting a museum I'm more than fine with this to. I'm as genuine a person as I can be and do the best I can for you on the clock. If... If a guy wants an exclusive relationship similar terms apply. The only difference is how and how much.

    1. Re:Timeshare arrangements by slaker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sex workers have a particular set of issues in their personal lives. They are, in a way, low-grade therapists, in addition to whatever physical services they provide. Sometimes they are an outlet for damaged people. They have to break social conventions for the sake of their professional lives and they have to deal with at least low-grade fear and jealousy from any loved ones aware of their occupation. I don't envy your lot. Your job is much more difficult than the fiction or fantasy suggest.

      My problems are 180 degrees opposite of yours. I have a lifetime of alienation and isolation, no hardened exterior for the sort of careful intimacy one might have from starting relationships and only the barest idea what physical relations entail. I am a stereotype and a punchline and the only thing I can say for myself is that I absolutely cannot give up the idea that one day I will join the rest of the species as a functional human being.

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      -- I wanna decide who lives and who dies - Crow T. Robot, MST3K