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GPU Prices Are Falling (venturebeat.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: If you were looking for a new graphics card for your PC over the last year, your search probably ended with you giving up and slinging some cusses at cryptocurrency miners. But now the supply of video cards is on the verge of rebounding, and I don't think you should wait much longer to pull the trigger on a purchase. Earlier this week, Digitimes reported that GPU vendors like Gigabyte, MSI, and others were expecting to see their card shipments plummet 40 percent month-over-month. The market for digital currencies like Bitcoin and Etherum is losing some of its momentum, and at the same time, large mining operations are pulling back on their investment in GPUs in anticipation of dedicated mining rigs (called ASICs) that are due out before the end of the year. These factors working in conjunction seem like they are leading to more supply, which in turn is forcing retailers to cut prices. For example, the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 video card is selling on Amazon right now for $700. Other retailers even have it listed at the original MSRP of $600. These are the lowest prices of 2018 so far.
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Better, when will the big operations start dumping cards by the thousands onto Ebay? A plentiful secondhand market + crypto not buying new cards should deepen the effect. I'm fine with used stuff, but do wonder how much life a GPU that has run flat-out 24/7 for a year or two has left.
Twenty years from now when you are at the villa reminiscing, you can divulge that you're one of the guys who knew how to hold a Phillips screwdriver and bilked thousands out of their student loan money.
I don't think you should wait much longer to pull the trigger on a purchase
Let the prices keep falling. I think we should all just wait till it hits rock bottom, then wait some more. Seriously though I always bought the value cards at around $100. Even those appear about 50 percent over what I would care to pay today if I thought I needed anything more than integrated graphics. When I do game, its older titles anyway. For me, gaming peeked at Quake3. Get off my lawn and all that.
Jesus. I remember in the good old days when $200 was a good chunk for a great GPU and $350 was for the very fastest ones.
Wtf happened? Nvidia monopoly and gamers ready to open their wallets because of the Nvidia label seem to be destroying the market. The comments on how the 1050ti is God on YouTube when referring to AMD products and the xboxoneX verify this brainwashing and monopoly.
Hey PC masterace just don't be shocked when us regular peasants switch to consoles where you can get the same performance for cheaper.
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Ethereum and Monero are the reason GPUs are being snatched up by miners. The value of those coins crashed horribly earlier in the month... to the point where it was barely profitable to mine. But prices have rebounded recently, so you can expect GPUs to start selling out again soon.
When the blockchain "difficulty factor" for ETH and XMR solidly surpasses their record highs, then you will know these ASICs are really rolling out. From there it won't be long until these $700 cards can be found on Ebay for chump change.
You can track the difficulty here: https://www.coinwarz.com/diffi...
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That's fine. Compared to my Nvidia 1080 they're useless for gaming, so I wouldn't consider a Vega.
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I'm interested in AMD RX 64 since I invested in a freesync monitor. The price right now is around $800. That is $300 more than the MSRP of $500 at release. This is more than 6 months later so right now the second revision and or custom vendor versions should be coming out and the original card should be going for around $450. By my calculation that is far from being on par.
... source is 'venturebeat'.
yup. bullshit.
checked price of a 1050ti..... total bullshit.
and this isn't even a very good mining card. price of these went up because they were all that was left.... and then, these disappeared from store shelves, too, even when priced as high as two hundred fucking dollars... not the $99 or less they should be selling at eighteen months after its introduction...
if it weren't for mining, we'd have the geforce gtx 11xx series out by now, too. this mining shit isn't just affecting prices of what's on the market, it's affecting the gpu companies' ambition to release the 'next' stuff... why do that when they are at 100% manufacturing capacity anyway and making bank on the old stuff?
The biggest advantage of the PC is the absolutely huge and varied library of games. Even without counting grey areas such as emulation, you get 30+ years of games of everything, and titles that easily surpass the modern games in terms of actual gameplay.
But you don't need a top of line machine to enjoy those, just a good taste and be willing to forgive the graphics of old.
Compared to my Nvidia 1080 they're useless for gaming
"Useless" is a wild exaggeration. More accurate: 1080 turns in 8 to 15% higher framerates at ultra-high quality. Vega overclocks better, closing the framerate gap and bumping up power consumption to considerably higher than NVidia (maybe 30% more?). Actually, since nobody really needs 100 FPS, you aren't going to notice much difference in practice. Vega handles 4K better. Vega costs twice as much because of mining, that is my only serious issue with it. Going to be hanging onto the Rx 480 for a while yet.
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Maybe because gamers are budget constrained. If I have 300$, I can't buy a 500$ card that will run my games the way I want, since the original 300$ MSRP is inflated due to demand. Because I can't buy that card in the first place, I can't mine with it. Or, I happen to not live in one of the areas where the power costs make that break even. Perhaps my computer can't be left on at night because the fans/lights keep me awake.
I don't like miners because they are mostly wasting a shit-load of electricity, stealing CPU cycles, or hardware, driving up prices of anything with graphics hardware (GDDR and generic DRAM shortages), and functioning as essentially a high-tech form of scrip, or perhaps monopoly money, with little to nothing backing it (See the open question about if tether actually has the cash to back their tokens that they claim to, since they printed a few hundred million since declaring their bank transfers in and out had been blocked, or perhaps any of the other scams, like Bitconnect, or Pincoin). The vast majority of the "Value" of these currencies is in coins that have never been traded for cash, many of which are out of circulation. Thus the fantastic value numbers are more representative of the last few dozen coins trading price multiplied by the total sum of coins. Logically, because the exchanges never took in sums in the billions of dollars, they can't pay it out. So it's all an illusion of worth, even more so than fiat currency or a standard bank account, because you can't pay nearly as many vendors with it, so it's utility is less, especially since most people don't understand that they are pseudonymous systems, rather than complete anonymous setups. Even the big names in privacy, like Monero, have had it breached. Most are less private than a credit card, because those at least are bound not to release all your info to anyone who calls to ask.
I don't think you should wait much longer to pull the trigger on a purchase
Actually, rumor is that Nvidia is going to release the 1100 series GPUs in June or July. They're expected to have about 40% higher performance than the 1000 series. Also, the Etherium ASICs are dropping in July; assuming there's not a hard fork that makes them useless (and even if there is), there will be a sharp price drop in Etherium at that time, leading to lower GPU demand by cryptominers.
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Anyone using any GPU will lose money mining cryptocurrency unless one is willing to wait until the currency rises significantly in value some amount of time after mining it.
No, holding is an illusion. If you cannot mine economically today its better to just buy the coins directly rather than buy electricity. You'll have more coins for that significant rise (if it occurs).
He may be referring to the practice of embedding Javascript mining code in web pages in order to "steal" CPU cycles from client browsers. No hacking required.
You do know that was debunked back in the 1990's. The difference between 144fps and 300fps is noticeable, if you don't think so go buddy up with someone who works at an imax theater and give it a go. The visual acuity of fighter pilots is in the 480-620fps range, just to give you an example. Conscious i.e. direct focus for most people is in the 50-90fps range, but your brain is 'discarding' unimportant information unless you train it not to.
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You have drunk the koolaid and wish everyone else to partake. There's already a lot of you out there.
Most current mining operations/coins have absolutely 0 real value, no matter what their stated exchange rate is. Real value doesn't fluctuate by 50%+ a week at the drop of a rumor. It's even worse than gambling on penny stocks. If you think it's any different than that, you need to revisit what penny stocks and OTC trading really involves. Cryptocurrencies/exchanges are exactly like them.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
The difference is very noticeable when panning quickly. I can see each individual screen update as an image along the movement path - i.e. the opposite of a motion blur. The higher the framerate the more images populated the movement path for the same movement, and the better I felt I could see what was going on. Some people will of course settle for less and be happy with that.
I would easily say that certain people would see a benefit to consistent 144Hz refresh of both card output and screen refresh.
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