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Forty Years of Spam Email (bbc.com)

An anonymous reader writes: The BBC has a video celebrating the 40th birthday of spam email. Here's a transcript of the video: "It is 40 years since the first spam email was sent. Marketer Gary Thuerk composed an email selling his company's newest computers and sent it to 400 users on ARPANET, which was the network that become the basis for the internet. Why is it called spam? It has been suggested that it was called spam after a song in a Monty Python sketch. Where patrons of a cafe were repeatedly offered something they didn't want. The concept of spam is nothing new. Unsolicited telegrams were sent over 100 years ago and we've come to accept junk mail as part of everyday life. Now [nearly 60%] of all email is spam. Like most rubbish, it can be found everywhere on earth."

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  1. If all you do about it is filter ... by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the another 40 years the problem will be astronomically worse. In fact if all we do is keep trying to filter out spam, the problem will almost certainly be unbeatable within another decade. The spammers know that they are slowly winning the war against the filters as the signal:noise ratio keeps coming down ever so slightly as they get a little more spam through with each iteration. They know that the complement to this is that more legitimate communication ends up getting automatically junked by the same filters, which means that eventually the filters stop being useful.

    The only way to end this problem going forward is to finally look at spam for what it is. Spam is an economic problem. Spammers don't send you spam to make you mad or to waste your time. Spammers send you spam to make money, plain and simple. The only way to end it is to stop them from making money on it. You can't legislate it away by throwing arbitrary penalties at spammers - we've even heard of spammers being murdered on the street and it didn't stop more spammers from coming up to take their place. The only way to stop spam is to stop them from getting paid.

    This has been shown effective before. We need to track down how they are getting paid - it most often is based on click-throughs so we need to find who owns the spamvertised domain - and interfere with it. If the money doesn't get to the spammer, they no longer have a reason to send spam.

    Everything else is a waste of time, money, storage, more money, and more time.

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    1. Re:If all you do about it is filter ... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And since I run my own domain, I can give each company their own address. This way I know who sells off that bit of info (or got hacked) and if I try to unsubscribe and it isn't honored I can kill off that address.

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    2. Re:If all you do about it is filter ... by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

      Check your spam folder in gmail and see what's in there. If you just signed up recently there isn't much but it won't take long. Eventually you'll need to check it regularly to find out what you're missing that you actually want to read. Filters are only making the situation worse and that's all they can do from this point forward.

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    3. Re:If all you do about it is filter ... by another_twilight · · Score: 3, Funny

      we've even heard of spammers being murdered on the street and it didn't stop more spammers from coming up to take their place

      I'm not sure that this solution has been properly and thoroughly tested, and I don't think, in good conscience and out of respect for the scientific principle that we can dismiss it so casually until we have more evidence.

      Personally I'm a fan of a Lex Talionis type solution, where for every piece of Spam (unsolicted commercial email) sent, the sender must recieve (eat) one 'piece' of Spam (spiced ham). In one sitting. I'm happy for piece to be set at 1g. Small time offenders should survive that. And be suitable chastened.

    4. Re:If all you do about it is filter ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Tracking the money comes up every year at the MIT spam conference, or used to. It doesn't work. The cost of prosecution is so high, the international abuse from outlaw countries like Nigeria and Estonia are so high, and the "legitimate" spam vendors are such a part of modern business and advertising that laws will not be passed and vendors lobby to protect their spam business. Even the EFF got corrupted and sold out, when Jerry Berman took over the EFF and sold their soul to sign off on the CANSPAM act.

      Actually, there is one spam filter that has proven 100% effective, with individual training for individual spam recipients properly implemented. It is called CRM114, it's, free software, GPL licensed, and available at http://crm114.sourceforge.net/ . It's Markovian neural net based rather than static Bayesian rules like most filters, does not predefine rules, and is normally individually trained for each user with no visibility for spammers to tune their messages.

    5. Re:If all you do about it is filter ... by KiloByte · · Score: 2

      I miss a real email about once a year from SPAM filters in Gmail, and it's usually a shady email. I literally never check my Gmail SPAM just because.

      Seriously?

      Let's take Linus, he somehow still uses Gmail. I'm too small a fry to send him pull requests, but I did make an April first one. (The mail archive web display mangles UTF-8 but it's correct in the actual mail, pretty vital for this actual patch set.). See Linus' complaint. Here we have correspondence from someone who had just participated in a two-way thread with Linus (something about modversions), the mail is GPG signed by a key one indirect node away, the mail being a well-formed pull request of the kind he gets tons of every day.

      How do you get a MORE valid mail for this particular recipient? (Aside of runes support in the tty layer not being an entirely reasonable feature.)

      I hear him complain about having to fish a pull request out of Gmail's "spam" roughly monthly, and that's only cases when he bothers to mention this and I happen to read that particular response (reading the entirety of LKML is not humanly possible).

      Thus, Gmail is so bad in the false positive department that I don't think it's usable. Even worse, when it discards a mail this way, it doesn't notify the sender the way any sane server is supposed to!

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    6. Re:If all you do about it is filter ... by houghi · · Score: 2

      I do the same. It adds several layers of security.
      1) You will know that an email is from your bank or from a spammer. Some spam mails are really good looking and almost fool me.
      2) You will know if your data has been compromised. If I start getting mails from something like CompanyName.com@example.net that means they have either sold the data, or they have been hacked.
      3) It is easy to filter. I can filter on the "TO:' for companies and on the FROM: for know addresses. All the rest is very easy and fast to look through and is most likely spam.

      Add some spammy addresses (e.g. travel2018@example.net) for specific things and you done. The travel I just delete after a year of travel, so hotels and restaurants can spam me, but I will not know and I know I do not need to look for the 'I do not want your spam' button 7 pages down for each place I go to.

      To be fair, except for the spammy addresses, I only had an issue with eBay where I probably forgot to deselect the spamming option once and I started to receive spam from people where I bought something from. So that address is gone.

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  2. Re:Paper junk mail is very lucrative for the Post by gravewax · · Score: 2

    luckily where I live a "NO JUNK MAIL" sign on the mailbox blocks 99% of that. once that filter fell off for about a week and I was honestly shocked at how much shit really is stuffed into mailboxes.

  3. Re:Paper junk mail is very lucrative for the Post by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Funny

    I could never stop junk mail coming into my mailbox. So I decided to valorize it instead: years ago, I gave my adress to many stores, and in short order, I started receiving a lot of junk mail. As in, a LOT of junk mail.

    What do I do with all that junk mail you ask? I make briquettes to throw in the fire in the winter. 3/4th of my heating needs are taken care of by that free fuel, delivered for free right on my doorstep. In the summer, I store the briquettes, and if I have too many of them, I sell them to the local recycler, who pays a token sum for it by the ton and burns it in our local power plant.

    Making the briquette is a bit of a pain, even with the briquette machine, and they require sweeping the chimney more often because burning glossy paper fouls it up real fast. Also, burning the chemicals contained in the paper and in the ink isn't terribly green. But it results in real savings in heating fuel.

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  4. Green card lottery spam by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am not one of the privileged few who was on ARPANET in 1978: I was at high school and in the wrong country.

    I was, however, present for a somewhat later milestone in spam history: the green card lottery spam. On 12 April 2994, a pair of exceptionally unscrupulous lawyers spammed every newsgroup on Usenet with ads for (utterly unnecessary and very expensive) assistance in entering a lottery for USA green card (permanent residence.) This generated a great deal of internet hatred.

    https://www.wired.com/1999/04/...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  5. Re:Viral Marketing by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

    Apparently, Spam is really popular in Hawaii.

    I think it's one of those products like fruitcake, which everyone claims to hate, but obviously some people actually like it because it's still around. So, I think plenty of people eat it, but perhaps don't talk about it. Or more to the point, probably not so much in circles techies run in, which are perhaps more of an "avocado toast" crowd.

    Statistics from the 1990s say that 3.8 cans of Spam are consumed every second in the United States, totaling nearly 122 million cans annually. It became part of the diet of almost 30% of American households, perceived differently in various regions of the country. It is also sometimes associated with economic hardship because of its relatively low cost.

    Generally speaking, I think Spam would have done fine, even without the e-mail-related moniker.

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  6. INCREASE YOUR TONER CARTRIDGE SIZE, NATURALLY! by guacamole · · Score: 5, Funny

    This message is not spam.

  7. It's not the song that give it the name by Laxator2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is the credits at the end.

    Just watch the credits roll and you see the word "Spam" inserted everywhere.
    Just like the junk messages littering you inbox, interspersed with the real messages.

    Written and spam performed by:

    Spam Terry Jones

    Michael Spam Palin

    John Spam John Spam
    John Spam Cleese

    Graham Spam Spam
    Spam Chapman

    etc..

  8. 40 years of spam.. by thePsychologist · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...and 40 years of users clicking on spam. When will they learn?

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  9. Wasn't spam originally NNTP? by FormOfActionBanana · · Score: 2

    I thought the original SPAM was cross-posted News (NNTP) postings. Wasn't it only later applied to emails?

    I would appreciate the input of a neckbeard here.

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    1. Re:Wasn't spam originally NNTP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Usenet was started in 1980. The first well known Usenet spam was posted in 1994 (the Green Card Lottery). The email referenced by the BBC was sent in 1978, well before the infamous first Usenet spam.

    2. Re:Wasn't spam originally NNTP? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The authors of the first Usenet spam were lawyers, disbarred in multiple states for fraud against their clients. They also tried to start a business selling spam services to others, which had a short profitable period until their level of fraud and abuse against their network providers and their own clients became clear.

      Some businesses engage in spam accidentally, because they are sold advertising services and don't understand the idea that "opt-in" email is accepted while "opt-out" is almost always unwanted, The vast majority, however, is abusive fraud. It remains a profound burden on every email system in the world, even those with good spam filtering, because there is a measurable cost of the filtering that generally far exceeds that for legitimate services.

  10. Re:Paper junk mail is very lucrative for the Post by Buchenskjoll · · Score: 5, Funny

    I do the same with spam emails. I print them out and make briquettes. I saves me loads of money.

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