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Devices Supporting Google Assistant Have More Than Tripled In Last Four Months

In a blog post on Thursday, Google announced that their smart assistant is now compatible with more than 5,000 devices. That's up from the 1,500 devices it worked with back in January. The Verge reports: According to Google, it's a list made up of a huge variety of products, including "cameras, dishwashers, doorbells, dryers, lights, plugs, thermostats, security systems, switches, vacuums, washers, fans, locks, sensors, heaters, AC units, air purifiers, refrigerators, and ovens." It's a big jump -- at least, numerically speaking -- and if nothing else, it's a sign that the full court press that Google started at the beginning of the year with its massive Google Assistant-themed booth at CES is starting to show some results. For comparison, Apple's Homekit is compatible with 195 products while Amazon's Alexa assistant currently supports over 12,000 devices.

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  1. Devices supporting notable spyware brand have more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Still far behind the leading spyware brand.

  2. Please Lord grant me by Shemmie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Something like a Raspberry Pi image that you install in your home, and it provides remote 'assistant' support for devices outside your home, with all the data stored within your LAN. Like, plug a USB HD into the Pi, and call it a home server. Then using that as the base for home automation.

    That would actually not feel as crappy as all these "we want to suck your data" toys.

    1. Re:Please Lord grant me by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 0

      To do that you would need decent voice recognition software which means you are going to need a multi GHz processor dedicated to the task to support a vocabulary larger than Trump's. SAD! ;)

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    2. Re:Please Lord grant me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Doesn't matter - all of these devices you will use for automation are still going to phone home. Better to just not install them in the first place, until strict privacy regulations are in place with hefty fines for privacy abusers like google and fb.

    3. Re:Please Lord grant me by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      To do that you would need decent voice recognition software which means you are going to need a multi GHz processor dedicated to the task to support a vocabulary larger than Trump's. SAD! ;)

      How much horsepower are we talking about, and does OSS which performs this task parallelize, or do you need single-thread performance?

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    4. Re:Please Lord grant me by kzg · · Score: 1

      Mycroft and Hass.io may interest you.

    5. Re:Please Lord grant me by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

      Sphinx4 is the decoder everyone uses, so feel free to read up on it's design. It does harness parallel processing but I don't think it uses GPGPU.

      As for running it on a Pi, you need to limit your vocabulary.

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    6. Re:Please Lord grant me by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      How much horsepower are we talking about, and does OSS which performs this task parallelize, or do you need single-thread performance?

      OSS VR is still way behind proprietary VR. But some pretraining on your own voice may bring them up to the level of Alexa and Siri, since they are designed to recognize anyone with any accent right out of the box.

      Most VR uses NNs, which are inherently parallel. The Raspberry Pi contains the Broadcom VideoCore GPU, which can run OpenCL, so most of the work can be offloaded from the CPU.

    7. Re:Please Lord grant me by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      As for running it on a Pi, you need to limit your vocabulary.

      I actually want to run it on a Pine A64+ with 2GB...

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    8. Re:Please Lord grant me by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Why is being able to talk to your appliances so damned important? If you can load the dishwasher, you can also press a button to start it.

    9. Re:Please Lord grant me by RhettLivingston · · Score: 1

      I dream of the home-based assistant tech - not just simple word and phrase recognition, but true natural language processing across a wide range of skills and the ability to learn skills through verbal or other interactions. But, there are some very difficult to overcome barriers to it.

      First, we really need advances in AI that allow it to train itself or be trainable with simple expressions of personal preferences, beliefs, etc. A home-based AI assistant must have home-based training to be truly private. We aren't there yet. Even if we were, learning requires far more AI processing power than simply running pre-trained networks.

      For that, we really need a leap in AI processing power. These applications, when looked at from a per user perspective, require intense bursts of complex, real-time operations. Response time is critical for usability. The centralized nature of the processing at this point allows you to employ a few milliseconds a few times a day of processing power from a large machine that you couldn't afford to monopolize as a single user at home. That large machine is required to hit the real-time mark in natural language processing.

      I keep hoping that Samsung, Google, NVidia, Intel, AMD, or IBM (I'm not listing Apple because they would require me to buy Apple products) will go seriously out of the box and produce an AI processor that targets a 3 or 4 orders of magnitude density and power improvement over Google's best TPU. But, they have no incentive to do so because the current data center-based model is relatively predictable and profitable.

      By "out of the box", I mean we need to open our minds back up to analog vs digital, asynchronous vs synchronous, photons vs electrons, masks vs self-assembly, 2D physical structure vs true 3D (not stacked 2D) or 4D, and even the concept of every device coming off the line being perfect versus just a sea of "processors" (could be nothing other than alterable points in crystals) and tiny connections (which could be virtual determined by wavelengths, phases, timing, etc) awaiting the adaptation of a seed ANN to it followed by learning.

      We'd also need device and service developers to adopt a consistent framework for discovery and interaction. They are currently incentivized to be different. Google Home, Amazon Alexa, Siri, Cortana, etc. should not have to have any special "skill" to interact with any device or service. Sadly, we are a long ways from any of this. I feel like the central devices are at a stage of development similar to Windows before the introduction of "plug and play" nearly a quarter century ago. In fact, I've seen indications that Alexa is retracing some steps very similar to the evolution of plug and play right now. Sad that we haven't learned these lessons at the systemic level.

    10. Re:Please Lord grant me by Shemmie · · Score: 1

      Many thanks. I was familiar with Mycroft, but Hass.io looks fascinating.

    11. Re:Please Lord grant me by TomGreenhaw · · Score: 1

      Don't knock it until you've tried it. Voice controlled lights and outlets are something that came along for the ride when my wife wanted me to step up home security. Its amazing how quickly we became addicted to the convenience.

      Motion & Door sensors and key fobs that turn home security on and off by detecting your presence along with phone apps and voice control really do make your living space nicer.

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    12. Re:Please Lord grant me by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Other than voice control, the key fob and phone control can be done 100% locally or peer-to-peer, without Google, Amazon, or Apple spying on you 24/7/365.

      "Step up security?" I'd just get a large dog, no spying or monitoring required.

  3. Amazing . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    . . . that people would want this.

  4. What if Google gets hacked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And all the recordings from your home become public?

  5. Google assistant is aptly named by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Those who assist others assist themselves? It certainly does assist google at positioning itself as the gatekeeper. And it assists other companies that want to piggyback on the spy ware platform. But yes you can tell your dishwasher to start itself from across the room. You still need to load it yourself.

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  6. Your wish is granted. by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    There's already lots of voice assitants for Raspi. Additionally the $49 kits also come rolled up with Google AI goodness too if you want them to take advantage of that. The tricky part of this is that the array based microphone technology is pretty important for being able work reliably in a noisey enviroment. So the single microphone raspi hats won't work so well as the array based ones. That's the secret sauce to make it non-frustrating and more of an appliance than just a demo.

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    1. Re:Your wish is granted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There's no goodness in google.

    2. Re:Your wish is granted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Mark II is a good quality microphone for Mycroft.

  7. it spreads by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    ... the festering infection of spyware as a service in the home is spreading. yay for techbros!

    1. Re:it spreads by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      said the fool that almost certainly has a cell phone in his home and likely in his pocket.
      Even funnier are those with Ring on their doorbells. They continue to send data to China, even though Amazon bought them.

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    2. Re:it spreads by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Nope, don't carry my cell phone all the time, phone's in airplane mode at home, and I dropped data, just have voice. Ring and other cloud cam's? Screw that idea and the whores it rode in on.

  8. But what is google assistant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And what does it do? I have no idea what that is, and I even have an android phone.

    1. Re:But what is google assistant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assuming you have a modern phone with Assistant installed or have installed it (some require you to install it yourself), it is what responds when you long press the circle and ask a question. If you have the device, try it. Its abilities to answer questions are pretty impressive. Retraining yourself to ask instead of walking to your computer and sitting down to a keyboard to query Google is the hard part.

  9. No They Haven't. by multi+io · · Score: 1

    Devices Supporting Google Assistant Have More Than Tripled In Last Four Months

    Devices can't triple because they aren't numbers or numeric quantities. The number of devices can triple. Devices can only do things that devices do, like ring, play music, break, or reboot.

    1. Re:No They Haven't. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The list of devices that support Assist has tripled. In other words, lots of obscure things are on a list, very few of which are out in the field.

    2. Re:No They Haven't. by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Devices can't triple because they aren't numbers or numeric quantities.

      Yeah, they’re not like the number of elephants in Africa.

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  10. Re:Devices supporting notable spyware brand have m by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  11. Apple can't be compared to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For comparison, Apple's Homekit is compatible with 195 products...

    Which is exactly how apple wants it. I bet 100% of those products are made or licensed by Apple.

    1. Re:Apple can't be compared to... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Apple, as always, only wants the pricey top layer of the market. By the way they have defined themselves they could never become a mainstream product company. The niche-obsessed elite would never stand for that.

    2. Re:Apple can't be compared to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apple is hot garbage.

    3. Re:Apple can't be compared to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really hit the key to Apple there. Apple's customers primary requirement is exclusivity. If Apple ever becomes so mainstream that having one does not set a customer apart from the mainstream, the customer type that made them will leave them.

    4. Re:Apple can't be compared to... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      For comparison, Apple's Homekit is compatible with 195 products...

      Which is exactly how apple wants it. I bet 100% of those products are made or licensed by Apple.

      Yes. And to get an Apple HomeKit license means you have to concentrate on security - Apple actually pentests your hardware against common vulnerabilities. Amazon and Google Home have liberal licenses - get as many devices working, who cares if they make it so they're weak on security?

      Even more, HomeKit devices must be able to work offline. Alexa and Google Home devices require The Cloud(tm). However, if you are completely within your home, Apple requires a HomeKit compatible device to not touch the Internet at all. Doesn't matter what it is - if you ask the lamp to turn on, you cannot talk to a server on the internet. You have to talk to the lamp directly and turn it on.

      The only time you can reach over the internet is if the controller is away from the house in which case you don't really have much of an option but use the internet to communicate.

      Naturally, it's far easier to add support for Google Home and Alexa, especially if you make it require internet service and don't care about security. HomeKit requires a higher level of attention and thus only people who aren't making cheap crap to spy on you need apply. Especially since in-home offline use is not an option, it's required.

  12. Google can't be trusted by Kohath · · Score: 1

    Google already collects far too much data on everyone. Why would you want them to know where you are at all times, everything about who you are with, what you say and what you watch and listen to?

    James Damore made the mistake of trusting them and they treated him like a heretic. Others have similar stories. They've treated YouTube content authors terribly in many cases. The list of Google misdeeds (or at least questionable actions) grows longer all the time.

    It seems dumb to increase your engagement with a company that treats people like Google treats people.

    1. Re:Google can't be trusted by Megol · · Score: 1

      Heretic? Idiot. Some difference even though you perhaps (being a heretic) not knowing it.

    2. Re:Google can't be trusted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From: https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/08/james-damore-just-filed-a-class-action-lawsuit-against-google-saying-it-discriminates-against-white-male-conservatives/

      James Damore, a former Google engineer who was fired in August after posting a memo to an internal Google message board arguing that women may not be equally represented in tech because they are biologically less capable of engineering, has filed a class action lawsuit against the company in Santa Clara Superior Court in Northern California.

      His claims: that Google unfairly discriminates against white men whose political views are unpopular with its executives.

      Damore is joined in the 161-page suit by another former Google engineer named David Gudeman, who spent three years with Google working on a query engine. According to Gudeman’s LinkedIn profile, he left the company in December 2016 and has been self-employed since.

    3. Re:Google can't be trusted by Kohath · · Score: 1

      Where were you indoctrinated to believe that every demographic subgroup of humanity has precisely the same likelihood to possess identical talents at every profession? It must take a truly dogmatic faith to believe something that can be so easily disproven.

    4. Re:Google can't be trusted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was with your argument until you brought in James Damore.

      When an employee damages the public perception of a company and acts outside the best interests of a company, that company has every right and responsibility as a public company to let such employee go.

      There are a thousand arguments to support your claim including the comment about YouTube content creators, and then you included the one thing Google did which was objectively not wrong and would be standard practice at any company.

    5. Re:Google can't be trusted by Kohath · · Score: 1

      He didn’t though. Other people leaked it and then lied about what it said.

      Damore trusted Google. Google solicited content. He contributed his. Google stabbed him in the back to satisfy a lynch mob,

      Google could have said they simply disagreed, and he's not a manager or an executive, and individuals within Google have different perspectives, and it was a reasoned perspective but they disagree with the conclusions. When there's a lunch mob, the right thing to do is not to go along and participate in the lynching.

  13. Anyone has a list of devices by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

    supported by Google, Amazon and the others? That way I'll know exactly what to avoid.

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    1. Re: Anyone has a list of devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.

  14. I don’t get something by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    Why is this story on apple.slashdot.org? It’s about a Google blog post regarding a Google device.

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  15. Why.... by Junta · · Score: 1

    What possible use is having a feature for this for applications like dishwashers, dryers, vacuums, washers, and at least some of the others?

    Even for most of the rest, I'd personally rather wish for a more modular approach (rather than a connected 'refrigerator', how about a camera to put inside my refrigerator that doesn't drag down a thousand dollar appliance when it fails)?

    I could see things like security systems, doorbells (really just more security system), oven (was it left on?), but a lot of this seems useless.

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    1. Re:Why.... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      What possible use is having a feature for this for applications like [...] vacuums

      I recently got one of the Neato robot vacuums (love it, by the way). I'll occasionally get messages from the vacuum cleaner when I'm at work about how it's stuck.

      I've debated, from time to time, naming the various areas of the house that the vacuum visits in order to be able to instruct it to go to that area and vacuum (e.g, "Go vacuum the front hall" or "Go vacuum the living room"). That could conceivably be useful. I was also debating figuring out how to integrate the room maps that Neato makes with, perhaps, locations markers. So the next time I spill coffee or sugar or baby powder or something, I could say, "Come here and vacuum this area."

      I could also see this sort of messaging for failures or oddities. For example, my roommate has a habit of washing a small amount of clothes in a large amount of water. When she does this, the clothes will all end up in one area of the dryer. When it goes to the spin cycle, the load is lopsided and the dryer will, at best, make more noise (as the drum hits the edge of the dryer) and, at worst, will manage to move itself around the room. So far, it hasn't damaged itself...

      I could see it being a good thing to have a smart washer that would recognize this and send a warning. Of course, it would be better if she hit the "water level" button...

    2. Re:Why.... by Junta · · Score: 1

      On the getting a warning that it's stuck while you are away, the question is what do you do about it? I know that I couldn't say "Oh, I've got to go home, my robot vacuum is stuck". Frankly, it's the sort of scenario that can wait a day.

      Sure, I suppose voice commands to specifically do a specific room could be handy, though I continue to be disappointed that the only way companies are doing this is by going through internet servers, when all parties to the situation are in the same house. Of course for spot cleaning in response to an event, it's hard to beat the immediacy of pulling out the vacuum and manually doing it, and it's not like that is particularly onerous. It can be tedious to do whole carpet vacuum cleaning routinely and it's nice to automate that away, but spot cleaning is fairly easy to take care of and for the time being much quicker to do yourself.

      On the washing machine, again, if imbalance detected, shut down and make a noise for attention. If you did leave and as such cannot respond in a timely manner, well, it's again not an urgent thing to take care of.

      Already my phone annoys the crap out of me with notifications about stuff that can wait without instrumenting all my appliances to then nag me as well.

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    3. Re:Why.... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Better yet, have the washer drum rotate back and forth rapidly to "rearrange" the load. Or limit the spin RPM in that instance to a speed which won't "bang." Why screech about a problem when it can be fixed?

  16. Definitely between Google and Amazon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its looking more like the two dominate AI will be Google and Amazon. Microsoft is falling flat with Cortana very predictable and Apple isn't much better with Siri because Apple is so closed end ecosystem protective of their services. Let's not forget that Chrome OS in classrooms and Alexa making strides in enterprise is two big advantages over everyone else.

  17. Internet enabled dishwasher by DrYak · · Score: 1

    If you can load the dishwasher, you can also press a button to start it.

    But, the next logical question is "what if you don't want to start it now, but in the morning" (because you don't want to noise to wake anyone up in you tiny apartment, nor your neighbors across the thin walls).
    So most company put a "delay before start" setting (which by itself isn't a stupid idea).

    But that the exact point where things start to roll down hill, because the "delay" implementation might not be that good.
      - It's not intuitive user/friendly (requires weird button completion)
      - It requires the time being set (cue in "Blinking 12:00" for anyone who isn't the typical /.er)
    etc.
    Which usually end ups with a company having a "brilliant !" (ahem...) idea :
    Let's make an App for it (because for 99% of normal population outthere, smartphone is something that they are used with and which is intuitive for them).
    Which immediately jumps to the last horrible point :
    Let's make the app web-enabled/cloud-hosted/whatever, so the user can start the dish washer from outside home if they forgot to put the delay timer for the morning.
    Cue in all Asian no-name cheap companies seeing a new selling point on the feature bullet list and deciding to clone this feature. Poorly. (But extremely cheaply).

    And that's how you end up with internet enabled dishwashers and fridges with pointless cloud-feature that barely anyone actually needs, but which are a giant security nightmare.

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    1. Re:Internet enabled dishwasher by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Consideration for neighbors is way over-rated when balanced with privacy :)