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Food Calorie Counts Will Start Appearing in US Restaurants and Grocery Stores (qz.com)

Americans are about to find it very difficult to avoid knowing how many calories they're consuming every day. From a report: That's because the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) this week decided to move forward with an Obama-era food labeling rule that requires restaurants, grocery, and convenience stores with 20 or more locations to post calorie counts for standard menu items. The interesting thing about calorie counts is that, while they undoubtedly offer more transparency around the foods we choose to eat, there's not a lot of evidence to show they affect people's purchasing decisions.

In 2017, a team of researchers led by a Harvard University professor conducted a systematic review of 53 studies on the topic. Their work was later published in the journal Obesity, and included an analysis of 18 studies of behavior in real-world restaurants, 9 from in cafeterias, and 21 from simulated settings. Five studies examined restaurant offerings. Overall, the review found that available research lacked strong designs, which ultimately makes understanding the effectiveness of calorie count labeling all the more cloudy.

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  1. Pick your battles by rmdingler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The interesting thing about calorie counts is that, while they undoubtedly offer more transparency around the foods we choose to eat, there's not a lot of evidence to show they affect people's purchasing decisions.

    There are folks you cannot reach despite all the evidence you can muster... nonetheless, please continue to provide that information for the folks you can.

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    1. Re:Pick your battles by nmb3000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are folks you cannot reach despite all the evidence you can muster... nonetheless, please continue to provide that information for the folks you can.

      Absolutely. A lack of information makes it impossible for anyone to make an informed decision whether they want to or not.

      And obviously while putting calorie counts on menus won't prevent someone from ordering six Big Macs, I do think it can help people choose between two alternatives. As a random example, the fried rice at Panda Express has almost 40% more calories than steamed rice. So menu calorie info may not push someone away from Panda or from a side of rice, but it could easily make them consider getting steamed rice over fried.

      I also think it has a positive effect on many restaurants (even if relatively small) to try and reduce fat and sugar in their food and undermines attempts to trick people into thinking something is a "healthy" option when it's really anything but.

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    2. Re:Pick your battles by rhazz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I also think it has a positive effect on many restaurants (even if relatively small) to try and reduce fat and sugar in their food

      In Canada we've had this for a while now, and this seems to ring true, especially with serving size. I go to Broadway's regularly and get a club sandwich with fries. It used to come on a plate where they'd put as many fries as would fit, but a couple years ago they started limiting the fries to a more reasonable fixed portion. This is likely because their menus now indicate the calorie size of a serving of fries, and "as many calories as can fit on your plate" doesn't sound very good.

    3. Re:Pick your battles by nmb3000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      But good lord if you find yourself at Panda and order steamed rice you should put serious thought into having yourself committed.

      Actually, Panda is one of the best fast-food places I've found where you can get a pretty healthy meal. It's all about making the right choices (which requires menu nutrition info). For example:

      Half side steamed brown rice: 200 kcal
      Half side steamed veggies: 40 kcal
      Broccoli beef: 160 kcal
      Mushroom chicken: 220 kcal

      In all 620 kcal, 23g fat, 27g protein, 8g fiber and only 14g sugar. Sometimes I'll mix up the second entree with something a little heavier like the grilled chicken or steak, but that only adds around 100 kcal and is still completely reasonable. Sodium is the biggest offender, as with any fast food with the meal above being about 1600mg, basically 100% of daily recommended. Still, that's almost unavoidable eating any fast food.

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  3. 20+ locations... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most chains with 20+ locations aren't worth going to anyway.

  4. More information is always good by dirk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is going to be a tough one to measure the effect of (or lack thereof) but I think more information in the hands of people is always better. I think the long term effect may be seen more in restaurant choice than choice at a restaurant. If you like Big Macs and go to McDonalds, chances are seeing the calorie count on the menu won't make you get a salad. What may happen though is the next time you are hungry, you remember the calorie count and decide to go somewhere else where you prefered meal isn't as high in calories.

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  5. Re: Calorie Counts in Grocery Stores? by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's for the prepared food you can get in most mid-range and up grocery stores these days. Think rotisserie chickens, sandwiches, etc.

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  6. 100 Calorie Packs by mentil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love those '100 calorie packs'. It makes it easy for me to know I'm eating 500 calories when I eat 5 of them at once, because they're tinier than an infant's hand and fill me up less than a cup of water.
    I particularly love bags of popcorn, where it's "only 60 calories per serving!" and each serving is 1 tablespoon. Who eats 1 tablespoon of popcorn in a sitting? How do you even measure pre-popped popcorn in tablespoons?
    Europe does this right, food has 'calories per 100g' on every package.
    On-topic, restaurant meal quantities vary by cook, with eye-balling of usage of cooking oil and sauce. Also, if you order a dish that comes with rice, chances are you will be given lots of rice and only end up using half of it for that dish, yet the 'total calories' will include the entire container of rice.

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  7. Re:They affect my behavior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The obesity epidemic is still getting worse because everyone parrots 1970s diet "science". No, red meat is not bad for you. No, 1000 calories from potatoes or parsnips are not good for you.

  8. Shouldn't last too long. by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just as soon as Trump hears Obama did it, he'll have it repealed.

    1. Re: Shouldn't last too long. by swillden · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Gosh, who would have thought that ruling by decree was a bad idea in a democracy? When Obama did it is was for our own good, but when Trump does it he's a nazi tyrant? It's the exact same thing.

      Your reading comprehension is poor. The criticism isn't that Trump reversing Obama's directive is bad because Trump is a "nazi tyrant", the criticism is that Trump wants it reversed merely because Obama did it, regardless of its merits. He's a toddler in a nursery who wants a toy merely because another toddler played with it first. I don't know what Trump's motive is for hating Obama so much but his obvious intention to undo anything and everything Obama did, regardless of whether it's good or bad, is just childish and stupid. Or racist.

      Though I guess we do have to thank the silly child for highlighting the fact that we've given the executive too much power. One good thing I hope to get out of the Trump administration is that we will we scale back the power of the president. We've trusted the holder of that office far too much, probably mostly because until now the holders of that office have demonstrated themselves to be adequately trustworthy. Lots of us recognized the danger many years ago, but Trump has made it impossible to ignore. I guess maybe we need a really, really terrible president from time to time. It's been almost 200 years since Andrew Jackson so we were overdue (though comparing Jackson to Trump is a little unfair to Jackson).

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    2. Re: Shouldn't last too long. by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously? You actually think Trump is doing this just because Obama did it?

      Have you not been paying attention? Trump has actually asked advisors and even other leaders what Obama decided about any number of things, just so he could reverse them. This is a transparent pattern that has been going on his whole presidency. I don't know about this particular situation, but many, many others have followed it exactly.

      If you don't see it, it's your confirmation bias at work.

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  9. Re:It works on me by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can make a pizza that's about 250 calories a slice. When I go out to eat it's easy to forget that most pizzas are 600+ calories a slice.

    Obvious solution: Take a pizza cutter with you to the restaurant, and cut each slice in half.

  10. Re:They affect my behavior by fred911 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "No, 1000 calories from potatoes or parsnips are not good for you."
      Until you cover them with chilli, cheese and bacon! Now you're eating healthy.

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