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Chinese Scientists Develop Photonic Quantum Analog Computing Chip (sciencemag.org)

hackingbear writes from a report via Xinhua: Chinese scientists demonstrated the first two-dimensional quantum walks of single photons in real spatial space, which may provide a powerful platform to boost analog quantum computing. Scientists at Shanghai Jiaotong University reported in a paper published in the journal Science Advances a three-dimensional photonic chip with a scale up to 49x49 nodes, by using a technique called femtosecond direct writing. Universal quantum computers, under develop by IBM, Google, Alibaba and other American and Chinese rivals, are far from being feasible before error correction and full connections between the increasing numbers of qubits could be realized. In contrast, analog quantum computers, or quantum simulators, can be built in a straightforward way to solve practical problems directly without error correction, and potentially be able to beat the computational power of classical computers in the near future.

55 comments

  1. Develop? Bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Develop? Bullshit. Which country did the Chinese scientists steal this technology from?

    1. Re:Develop? Bullshit. by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      Yes, it was stolen-- in a collaborative effort involving, among other countries -- from, say, Austria, as is the norm for scientific endeavors.

      Is China the Leader in Quantum Communications?

      Chinese scientists have built two major quantum infrastructure projects, and the race is on to take the next step.

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    2. Re:Develop? Bullshit. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Develop? Bullshit. Which country did the Chinese scientists steal this technology from?

      Just like all the otehr times, probably some country that didn't bother exploiting its intellectual property.

      If China can build it, more power to them.

    3. Re:Develop? Bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you can cite exactly where in the article does it state that it was stolen?

    4. Re: Develop? Bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More likely they just glued 2 photonic transistors together and called it a day after making bold claims. .. its typical propaganda from the Chinese and others

    5. Re:Develop? Bullshit. by senileoldfart · · Score: 1

      You are deluding yourself.

    6. Re:Develop? Bullshit. by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      My point, exactly.

      Thanks.

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    7. Re:Develop? Bullshit. by DamnOregonian · · Score: 1

      It was stolen and hidden along with your sarcasm detector.

  2. real spatial space by john+of+sparta · · Score: 2

    that's what we'll name our band

    1. Re:real spatial space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm more interested in research about non spatial space, real or imaginary. If they haven't cracked that nut, they are just wasting my timely time.

    2. Re:real spatial space by jimtheowl · · Score: 1

      Their research maybe inconsequential to you, but they are not wasting your time.

      You are doing that perfectly well yourself.

  3. Just a matter of time before they best the USA.... by bogaboga · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Folks, it's just a matter of time before these Chinese beat us in fields that matter. They already are some of the best in the following fields: -

    Computer Science - Our computer innards speak to this

    Chemical Engineering - No wonder every home in the USA has something made in China

    Energy - They are "up there" when it comes to Solar Energy, Hydro Electricity & Wind turbines

    Chemistry - They start Chemistry as early as Middle School

    Decision Science - High/fast execution is their MO. talk of building a "sky scrapper" in 19 days!!

    Mathematics - This starts with kids as young as those of the kindergarten age

    Engineering - Results already speak for themselves: Talk of the largest High Speed rail Network in the world

    Materials Science - I bet your smartphone's screen or battery is made in China

  4. But but but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...according to Slashdot comments China steals everything from the glorious USA. Who did they steal this from?

    1. Re:But but but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All will be well when Apple releases a quantum photonic analog phone thus proving they invented it.

    2. Re:But but but... by Armonk · · Score: 1

      All will be well when Apple releases a quantum photonic analog phone thus proving they invented it.

      Of course :-) It is a well know fact that Apple did indeed invent everything.... all that has been invented or will be invented in the future.... The genereous American Patent office might as well just hand them a universal patent and close up shop :-)

  5. In China every single thing is fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They have fake boobs, fake rice, fake eggs

    And the analog photonic quantum machine they are showing has fake photons, fake analog and fake quantum, all built in

    Unless America becomes as fake as China there is no way America can win this race

    1. Re:In China every single thing is fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      du di did you say fake boobs ? I'm listening..

    2. Re: In China every single thing is fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Iâ(TM)m quite sure America can beat China on the fakes:

      1. Fake war mongers on WMD, costing trillions
      2. Fake credit ratings, costing the whole economy
      4. Fake election, sending a clown to the White House
      5. Fake patents

  6. Re:Chinks and property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hate to break it to you, but American colonists flagrantly ignored British patents (and sometimes copyrights too) and manufactured whatever the heck they wanted.

    In some ways, China's economy is much like that of the early Americas.

    Captcha: sinned, as in forgive me father

  7. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by AvitarX · · Score: 2

    Is Corning no longer the obvious best glass?

    That's news to me. Janky phones still seem to advertise it (albiet old).

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  8. Photonic Quantum Analog by sysrammer · · Score: 1

    Why Photonic Quantum Analog? Because it *sounds* better!

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    1. Re:Photonic Quantum Analog by fafalone · · Score: 1

      I've been looking for a photonic quantum analog chip to put in my transspacial Heisenberg compensator... the femtosecond direct writing will really help improve the harmonic resonance manifold of my transwarp conduit.

    2. Re:Photonic Quantum Analog by CBMFreak · · Score: 1

      I've been looking for a photonic quantum analog chip to put in my transspacial Heisenberg compensator... the femtosecond direct writing will really help improve the harmonic resonance manifold of my transwarp conduit.

      Don't forget to install a flux capacitor as well as putting it together with a hydrospanner and a sonic screwdriver. I hear the EPS relays are really hard to align precisely with the a flux capacitor without using a sonic screwdriver. More often than not you will also need to install a tribophysical waveform macro kinetic extrapolator and adjusting it with a cronometer. Remember that you will also need a borg transwarp coil in order to utilize the transwarp conduit. The chinese invented that chip just in time. How else are we going to make our machines go....

    3. Re:Photonic Quantum Analog by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Why Photonic Quantum Analog? Because it *sounds* better!

      I guess we'll see Photonic Quantum Analog Tube Monster Cables real soon.

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  9. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    Not sure what you are talking about. Our computer innards aren't from China and neither are our smartphones or batteries. You must be thinking of Korea or the US.

  10. Better than... by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    ...imaginary spacial space which is what airlines use for your legroom.

    1. Re:Better than... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So all I need to do is multiply my legs by sqrt(-1) and I can have all the legroom I want? Sweet!

  11. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Folks, it's just a matter of time before these Chinese beat us in fields that matter.

    People said the same things about Japan in the 1980s. Remember that? Don't believe everything you hear, especially when it's the Chinese tooting their own horns.

  12. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Computer Science - Our computer innards speak to this

    Process technology: Invented in USA
    Fastest microchips: Designed in USA or Israel (with USA-trained engineers.)

    Chemical Engineering - No wonder every home in the USA has something made in China

    The science is done in European and American universities (and by Corporations directly as well... like 3M or DuPont)

    Energy - They are "up there" when it comes to Solar Energy, Hydro Electricity & Wind turbines

    They are installing it quickly, but we're inventing it

    Decision Science - High/fast execution is their MO. talk of building a "sky scrapper" in 19 days!!

    O no! don't scrap the sky!

    Engineering - Results already speak for themselves: Talk of the largest High Speed rail Network in the world

    Who designed those trains again? Oh yeah, the Japanese.

    Materials Science - I bet your smartphone's screen or battery is made in China

    And designed in the USA or Europe, then made on contract in China.

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  13. Photonic Quantum Analogue with DNA Blockchain by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

    That is one buzzword-intensive abstract. On the other hand, I'd like to find a faux tonic quantum wok at Bed Bath and Beyond One Dimension.

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    1. Re:Photonic Quantum Analogue with DNA Blockchain by javaman235 · · Score: 1

      It's for real, analoque quantum computing. It's not even that tough to see. I was out driving with polarized sunglasses after playing with IBMs quantum computer/tutorial, and realized there's a bunch of stuff you could do to help computer vision, just from working with light before digitizing using age old optics stuff derived from QM. You don't need the entire quantum computer to get a massive computational edge for certain things.

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  14. Re: Just a matter of time before they best the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many of us have been poring over stackexchange trying to understand what "analog" computing is before we post flippant or deflective comments?
    *Answer: 60%

  15. Not Chinese, you thieves! by aglider · · Score: 1

    They are from somewhere else!

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  16. Re:Chinks and property by senileoldfart · · Score: 1

    American circle jerk.

  17. Wait and see by Chas · · Score: 1

    Just wait. We'll figure out if this is another Chinese "invention" powered by ass-blown smoke.
    Or, if it's real, just who they've stolen it from.

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  18. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boga, you're a moron.

    Almost everything on your list was wrong, and those that were technically correct omitted why China was a leader in that. Top Manufacturing = zero pollution controls + slave labor + no safety standards. Think, dumbass.

  19. Why didn't Africans develop this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aren't there enough of them in the world?

    Why didn't muslims develop this?

    Oxford University has produced more Nobel Prize winners than the entire muslim world.

  20. Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too long have we toiled under the yoke of fake spatial space or been fooled by really non-spatial space.

    Now that real spatial space is a real spatial reality, we will never look back!

  21. Like "Fake News" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do they also do Fake News in order to start wars like some other nations do ?

  22. Nasty Old White Man !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How dare you speak the truth ?

    I will report you to the PC Commissar of your employer for punishment !

  23. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People said the same things about Japan in the 1980s. Remember that?

    Yes, and then Japan caved in to US demand to appreciate the Yen, that caused Japan to go into a nearly 30-year (and counting) spiral of stagnation they still haven't gotten out of.

    And Trump is trying the same tactic (to the point of using the exact same guy that engineered the deal with Japan in the 80s) with China. Too bad Trump didn't realize what worked for a vassal state like Japan won't fly when dealing with China (not to give all credit to China, at least they have the benefit of Japan's example).

  24. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    Photon Torpedoes- If they reverse the polarity of neutrinos in the Photonic Quantum Analog Computing Chip, add some Higgs Bosons, and change Analog to Digital, the chip will produce Photon Torpedoes

    Does tinfoil protect against Photon Torpedoes, or do I need to invest in a new hat?

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  25. Today's buzzword trifecta winner by Photonmaker · · Score: 3, Funny

    Photonic because everything is better when done with lasers, right? Does you i7 make "pew pew" sounds?

    Quantum Not so bad, but add it to computing and the number of people who get it is drastically reduced

    Analog computing Because two states are never enough, we need 42

  26. Another "advance?" by Sqreater · · Score: 1

    Why do "quantum computing" articles make me feel like they are talking about unobtainium, perpetual motion machines, or androids coming any-decade-now?

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    1. Re:Another "advance?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's because of stories like this claiming the simulation will somehow be faster than just ... Running through code on the fastest "classical" CPU

  27. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are confused. While the improvement of Chinese scientific capability may result in leadership positions in many areas, China is not yet there. You confuse exploiting cheap and captive labor to create a manufacturing position with technological and scientific leadership. You also haven't really looked at some things you mention.

    Intel actually manufactures and definitely develops outside of China, so actually looking at the innards of a computer reveals that Taiwanese design of motherboards does not in any way imply Chinese domination of computer science. The actual indicator of future Chinese dominance in computer science is the excellence of their young programmers.

    Chem engineering. Do you even know what this is? Sure blow molded plastic is an area where China has demonstrated capability, but to think this means they have leadership in chem engineering and the resulting implications for materials development shows a real lack of understanding of what is happening in the world today. The Chinese are nowhere near the lead in materials development or chemical engineering. Want a cheap blow molded plastic item then China is the place to go.

    Decision science. Well China is growing and they have brilliantly analyzed their situation and developed plans to improve their situation. But the term "decision science" just seems a programmer's ignorance of the various means of assessment in engineering as they attempt to sell the idea that they will write apps to help with economic assessment. Start talking decision science with the big goys and they will have a chuckle. Millennials do try but it would help if they got up to speed in fields before they try to improve things.

    Having a population capable in applied math is good but does not constitute leadership in the development of mathematics.

    Engineering. There you go again. Hiring German firms doesn't mean you lead in the field. the opposite in fact.

    Again you confuse the impressive exploitation of Chinese workers and supply chain development with scientific and technological capability. The Chinese simply do not lead in materials science. they barely have a presence. Screens and batteries are great examples. Neither were developed in China. The rest of the world just saw a way to screw over their own populace by collaborating with Chinese slavers. Now some leaders are beginning to see the problems that result from those past decisions.

    I WILL give you that continued leadership in manufacturing will likely lead to future dominance in certain fields. After all, that is what happenned elsewhere in the past. But China just isn't there yet. We may be surprised how fast leadership happens in some fields though.

  28. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They were handed all of this technology in return for cheap labor. Globalism at its finest.

  29. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    While I'm wating for the first Photon Torpedoes I already know I really need a Photonic Quantum Analog Computing Chip It'll be in a transparent casing in my laptop so everyone can see it.

  30. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 1

    High/fast execution is their MO. talk of building a "sky scrapper" in 19 days!!

    And perhaps falling down even faster!!

  31. you racist fuck by pablo_max · · Score: 1

    You mean because they are Chinese and therefore not able to create? Let me guess... Only white people are able to create things?
    It's not the 80's you fucktard and you (the US) is not the best at everything.
    China has been dumping billions into quantom computing and green energy. Of course there are going to be advances.. you racist fuck.

  32. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by DamnOregonian · · Score: 1
    This in no way should be taken to be a slam on China...
    But that list is not a list of fields that the Chinese have beat us, or are close to beating us in.

    Computer Science - Our computer innards speak to this

    The chance that you're typing this to me on a processor designed in China is very low, and if you are... Well, then you're using an inferior product, currently. The processor, as you know, is the part of a Computer where the Science in Computer Science is applied.

    Chemical Engineering - No wonder every home in the USA has something made in China

    This one makes me scratch my head... Every home in the USA having something made in China has a lot more to do with their labor costs than their engineering creds, in any field whatsoever.

    Energy - They are "up there" when it comes to Solar Energy, Hydro Electricity & Wind turbines

    They are indeed! But that's a matter of political will. Our plants are still more advanced.

    Chemistry - They start Chemistry as early as Middle School

    So do we?

    Decision Science - High/fast execution is their MO. talk of building a "sky scrapper" in 19 days!!

    Yes, pre-fab skyscraper components are now a thing. If you are a country that specializes in large-scale manufacturing, I expect you to do well here.

    Mathematics - This starts with kids as young as those of the kindergarten age

    Ok, that's pretty cool. I wouldn't say my mathematics started in earnest until 1st grade.

    Engineering - Results already speak for themselves: Talk of the largest High Speed rail Network in the world

    Back to political willpower, though again- I'm not arguing that they suck, or are not competent engineers- only that your example isn't an example of what you say it is.

    Materials Science - I bet your smartphone's screen or battery is made in China

    Almost certainly. And engineered and designed in America, Japan, Taiwan, or Korea.

  33. Re:Just a matter of time before they best the USA. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what ? You don't think the Chinese have the capacity to create anything ?

  34. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought people that were interested in this kind of stuff would be a bit more intelligent and reasonable but based on the comments I'll have to lower my expectations once again. Keep up the stupidity your doing great.