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Canonical Shares Desktop Plans For Ubuntu 18.10 (ubuntu.com)
Canonical's Will Cooke on Friday talked about the features the company is working on for Ubuntu 18.10 "Cosmic Cuttlefish" cycle. He writes: We're also adding some new features which we didn't get done in time for the main 18.04 release. Specifically: Unlock with your fingerprint, Thunderbolt settings via GNOME Control Center, and XDG Portals support for snap.
GNOME Software improvements
We're having a week long sprint in June to map out exactly how we want the software store to work, how we want to present information and to improve the overall UX of GNOME Software. We've invited GNOME developers along to work with Ubuntu's design team and developers to discuss ideas and plan the work. I'll report back from the sprint in June.
Snap start-up time
Snapcraft have added the ability for us to move some application set up from first run to build time. This will significantly improve desktop application first time start up performance, but there is still more we can do.
Chromium as a snap
Chromium is becoming very hard to build on older releases of Ubuntu as it uses a number of features of modern C++ compilers. Snaps can help us solve a lot of those problems and so we propose to ship Chromium only as a snap from 18.10 onwards, and also to retire Chromium as a deb in Trusty. If you're still running Trusty you can get the latest Chromium as a snap right now. In addition, Ubuntu team is also working on introducing improvements to power consumption, adding support for DLNA, so that users could share media directly from their desktop to DLNA clients (without having to install and configure extra packages), and improved phone integration by shipping GS Connect as part of the desktop, the GNOME port of KDE Connect. Additional changelog here.
GNOME Software improvements
We're having a week long sprint in June to map out exactly how we want the software store to work, how we want to present information and to improve the overall UX of GNOME Software. We've invited GNOME developers along to work with Ubuntu's design team and developers to discuss ideas and plan the work. I'll report back from the sprint in June.
Snap start-up time
Snapcraft have added the ability for us to move some application set up from first run to build time. This will significantly improve desktop application first time start up performance, but there is still more we can do.
Chromium as a snap
Chromium is becoming very hard to build on older releases of Ubuntu as it uses a number of features of modern C++ compilers. Snaps can help us solve a lot of those problems and so we propose to ship Chromium only as a snap from 18.10 onwards, and also to retire Chromium as a deb in Trusty. If you're still running Trusty you can get the latest Chromium as a snap right now. In addition, Ubuntu team is also working on introducing improvements to power consumption, adding support for DLNA, so that users could share media directly from their desktop to DLNA clients (without having to install and configure extra packages), and improved phone integration by shipping GS Connect as part of the desktop, the GNOME port of KDE Connect. Additional changelog here.
Unlock with fingerprint? I had that last year with Fedora 25 KDE and Fedora 25 Cinnamon. I remember it being a pam thing... I thought it was old-hat by now.
A new bunch of features to deal with.
I used MiniDLNA for a while (when I was using a SONY PS3 as a media player, and it worked pretty well. I can't imagine DLNA support is really much of an accomplishment in 2918.
I've been a programmer for a long time. Bunch of different languages, mostly Unix or Linux, some Windows. "If you're still running Trusty you can get the latest Chromium as a snap right now." Is that even English? Or what?
Everything you know is wrong, Just forget the words and sing along.
going to be? IIRC the VLC snap was 190 MB download and about 700 MB on disk.
like it matters.
"hey guys, we are going to do this and this and this if we don't fail"
"we are vowed to alienate ourselves from the rest of the *stream, we are vowed to saturate the linux community and its development as much as we can, and if we succeed we will continue to do it, if we fail again we will find new ways to saturate linux"
"....also new ads, new telemetry, new indexing... but ofc it's opt out, not opt in."
"K, tnx, bb"
Thanks Mark
Looks like Ubuntu 18.x doesn't offer user home directory encryption anymore. Not sure how good/bad/ugly this is, but I thought it to be a useful feature.
What kind of incompatible mess are they going to create now?
Do not want.
Ubundows 10 still not for consumption by serious Linux users. Plus playing with all this "snap" nonsense instead of plain .deb files.
We can and will make this Linux distribution worse! ;)
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Fuck you and your apparently completely insecure and absolutely not-audited pieces of fucking shit 'Snaps' Canonical.
Other then Ubuntu is a pretty decent beginners Linux desktop to try and I thought being different with Unity was perfectly fine. At least it looked way better then Gnome 3 does. Now days it seems Canonical can't decide what direction its going to next. Too bad Linux desktop is so splintered because exchanging ideals to create a really nice desktop distro would benefit Linux desktop as a hole. Instead of a hundred or different directions.
Then why can't he (we) just say that?
A summary of a news article cannot define every word used therein; otherwise, every summary would become a dictionary. Thus a summary of an article can use without definition any word whose definition that the expected audience of that article is expected to already know. In this case, anyone who runs Ubuntu 14.04 and has installed Google's web browser has seen the names "Trusty" during installation of the operating system and "Chromium" during installation and launching of the browser. Therefore, communication to users of Google's web browser on Ubuntu 14.04 can use terms familiar to users of Google's web browser on Ubuntu 14.04. "Snap" I'll concede, as production use of Snap didn't ramp up until at least Ubuntu 16.04 (codename "Xenial Xerus").
I try it on a intel tablet, boot greath on the live session, but once installed (bare metal), crash big time. No problem with other distro, look like it's made only to work as a demo.
Ceci n'est pas une Signature !
Switching Core Software packages from Deb to Snaps is where me and Ubuntu part ways.
Chromium is hard to compile because it is now a compiler monoculture. Gcc 4.9 has all the features it needs, but because Google now only use a single version of a single compiler, other compilers will be lacking the same bugs as that clang version.
It is particularly incorrect use of constexpr and noexcept clang has trouble with and thus plagues the Chromium code everywhere as their developers are just scattering it around without understanding it.
If they are not just throwing it away, nothing much is improving.
I kicked 18.04's tires in a virtual machine on release day, and then the next day I backed up my OS partition and then used "do-release-upgrade -d" to upgrade my machine from 16.04.4 to 18.04.
Why the rush? I didn't want to wait any longer to finally use C++17 compilers. For me it was definitely worth it, and I'll never go back to C++14. (* Please do not tell me about how I could have used a PPA to install C++17 compilers on 16.04. I'll never use a PPA again. For me, if it doesn't exist in the main apt repo, then it doesn't exist.)
p.s. I've been using Ubuntu as my desktop OS since 8.10, and IMO this was the smoothest upgrade yet.
I should say my company sells computers with Ubuntu by default. We will be switching to something else. Even if that something else is just as bad- it at least won't be Ubuntu and we won't be enabling this bad behavior. Snaps needs to be separate. We need to move away from system D, etc. Snaps was the change that broke the camels back though. Not that past actions like Unity were wise. But they were nothing compared to Snap. Snap is a security danger. As far as I can see there is no real way to get away from it- but we can at least undermine Ubuntu's popularity and show that people don't want this and if you do whats not in the people's interests other companies will stop supporting you and you need them to be #1.
If not? No deal.
Wait, you need to upgrade your entire OS and apps just to get a newer compiler?
After the gnome team made such a big deal of their fresh start with gnome 3, I was surprised years later that gnome was still full of bugs. I used it for a few weeks after ubuntu ditched unity, then changed to xfce. I didn't see anything in the article about fixing bugs . Its all about new features, so I won't be going back to gnome.
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More Functions Removed from Gnome 3
Still got SystemD ...
And that means support for the last non-systemd LTS will expire while all the remaining supported LTSes use systemd (or at least use it by default).
Which means I can't stay with Ubuntu, and have to migrate, to avoid systemd.
It's been a nice ride, guys. Thanks. But goodbye/
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Two years after 16.04, 18.04 arrives. Perceptible *useful* differences, as far as I the end-user can tell?
Miniscule. Again.
So while I'm glad the boys and girls are enjoying their fine-tuning experiences, in my experience, upgrades to 16.04 would have sufficed. The rest basically boils down to make-work.
"You must try to forget all you have learned. You must begin to dream." -- Sherwood Anderson
Essentially yes, because every version g++ since 5.0 (or was it one of the high 4.x releases?) requires a compatible ABI revision, which means you need different versions of the c++ standard library runtimes that aren't compatible with any of the binaries on your PC.
I guess maybe if you're hardcore enough, you could figure out how to install both ABIs and then pass some flags or environment variable or whatever, but I'd rather not have that kind of headache.
Or you could do your builds in a virtual machine and use ssh to mount the VM's files on the local machine for editing, or you could set up X-forwarding to view your VM's editor on your local machine.
I guess red hat is hard core then, on rhel 6 and 7 the system g++ is 4.4/4.8 but you can easily install g++ 7 by doing yum install centos-release-scl-rh && yum install devtoolset-7, and the produced binaries are guaranteed to be binary compatible.
i hate gnome 3 so much that i stoped recommending ubuntu to people and refuse to downgrade to 18.04
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