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US Treasury Secretary Calls For Google Monopoly Probe (theregister.co.uk)

After a 60 Minutes episode that focused on Google and its effective search monopoly, U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin called for large tech companies to be investigated for potential antitrust violations. Asked whether Google was abusing its market dominance as a monopoly, Mnuchin told CNBC on Monday "these are issues that the Justice Department needs to look at seriously," and argued that it was important to "look at the power they have" noting that companies like Google "have a greater and greater impact on the economy." The Register reports: Mnuchin's willingness to directly criticize Google and other tech companies and argue that they should be under investigation is just the latest sign that Washington DC is serious about digging in the market power of Big Internet. It is notable that it was 20 years ago, almost to the day, that America finally dealt with another tech antitrust problem when the Justice Department and 20 state attorneys general filed suit -- on May 18, 1998 -- against what was then the most powerful tech company in the country: Microsoft.

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  1. I thought Hasbro owned Monopoly by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Not Google.

    1. Re:I thought Hasbro owned Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder how long until AI can beat all humans at Monopoly? With the rapid advancements in AI, not long, no doubt.

    2. Re:I thought Hasbro owned Monopoly by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

      If so we need to break up Hasbro. No one should own a Monopoly®.

    3. Re:I thought Hasbro owned Monopoly by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      And I thought it was Parker Brothers, but I guess I haven't been keeping up.

      In 1991, Hasbro acquired Parker Bros. and thus Monopoly.

      I don't think I've played Monopoly since the early '80s anyway.

    4. Re: I thought Hasbro owned Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The world has yet to see a real AI. So far itâ(TM)s all fakery with very clever and powerful pattern matching bullshit. Good work has been done on what we call âoemachine learningâ but thereâ(TM)s no learning, no knowledge, no intelligence of any sort. Just bit data pattern matching which quite often fails utterly in ways that any 3 year old could figure out.

  2. Re:Trump dies in prison a traitor either way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He'll be a popular prison wolf.

  3. Re:Trump dies in prison a traitor either way by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    Federal prison is a lot more fair than state prison that's for sure.

  4. Heads up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They didn't deal with the last issue. They swept it under the carpet. That's why you still only see windows in shops. That's why interoperability is still a joke. That's why the web is still broken. Wake up get rid of micros hit.

    1. Re:Heads up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      America finally dealt with another tech antitrust problem when the Justice Department and 20 state attorneys general filed suit -- on May 18, 1998 -- against what was then the most powerful tech company in the country: Microsoft.

      And as soon as George W. Bush became president, the Republican controlled Justice Dept. immediately shut the whole thing down.

      If you think that the current Republican controlled Justice Dept. is going to do anything differently, you are delusional.

    2. Re: Heads up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since Silicon Valley tech like google are all big time leftists blindly devoted to their dnc masters, I would expect a republican doj to utterly crush them.

      You need to stop parroting crap you get off the net and cnn about republicans=business and democrats=people and actually look around you and apply some brain power. It is not that simple and NEVER was.

  5. Re:Trump dies in prison a traitor either way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HILLARY CLINTON in ALCATRAZ PRISON

  6. Re:Trump dies in prison a traitor either way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess he'll have to decide which he likes better, assuming he lives long enough to either serve his Federal or State sentence in entirety and move on to the other. Lol. Stupid traitor problems.

  7. Dupe! by ls671 · · Score: 1

    Dupe!
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  8. How do you change people's mind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you make a company, such as Google, force other people to use other search engines? After all, it is not in Google's control...

    When it comes to searching, people have a choice, and most of them choose what they view as the best search engine. If it happens to be Google that can't be helped.

    Perhaps we will see monthly search quotas now...

    1. Re:How do you change people's mind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention, I am perfectly free to use any search engine I please. I can go to DDG, Bing, Google, Yahoo!, anything I want. MICROSHIT ON THE OTHER HAND; do a search for Google or Firefox on Bing and they start saying "use our stuff pwetty pwease T.T".

      Google has no monopoly, people are perfectly free to go to any other search engine, with no inconvenience, time wasted, or even cost.

  9. Re:Trump dies in prison a traitor either way by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    As a tour guide? That'd be neat. Sounds like a good job for a retiree.

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  10. Trickle down theory by sit1963nz · · Score: 0

    Modern economic "trickle down theory" says if you make wealthy people and corporations richer, some of that money will trickle down to campaign contributions.

    This is just a warning shot that the contribution was not enough to satisfy current needs.

    1. Re:Trickle down theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Educate yourself on trickle down theory (not necessarily you, sit1963nz, just arbitrary reader)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZPDpk8NA-g
      http://www.aei.org/publication/thomas-sowell-on-the-trickle-down-myth-workers-are-always-paid-first-and-then-profits-flow-upward-later-if-at-all/

      And generally read the "Basic Economics" - amazing book.

    2. Re:Trickle down theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since you write English at a grade school level I wonder how on earth you read any of that?
      Don't try and dazzle us cocksucker. Fact is you're here talking bullshit for a penny a post.

    3. Re:Trickle down theory by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      Was expecting 0 hard evidence or actual citations, and was not disappointed. I know facts and reality are the archenemies of Republicans, but here is some actual you know, evidence, showing that your guy is full of shit. https://krugman.blogs.nytimes....

    4. Re:Trickle down theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure what's the point you're making here.
      Sowell says that trickle-down economy isn't a thing (and only being used by Democrats, as a scarecrow)
      Krugman says that trickle-down economy is a (political) failure (and the quoted thing doesn't really prove the point - social programs do not map directly to efficient service or higher quality of life).

      Anyway, not trying to change your mind buddy.

  11. Hiring? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does that mean that they finally care about coercion among tech companies that block people from getting hired (i.e., the Steve Jobs blacklisting that pegs someone an Apple person and another a Microsoft person, preventing people from leaving their positions)?

    1. Re:Hiring? by i286NiNJA · · Score: 1

      No they came to the realization that tech is a threat to the existing power structures that they depend on.

  12. Here come all the Trump haters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's destroy the country because I hate Trump!

    1. Re:Here come all the Trump haters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here come all the flyover rednecks, Trump has destroyed what little good reputation you had, and is destroying your country himself.

    2. Re: Here come all the Trump haters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #HillaryistBigot

    3. Re:Here come all the Trump haters by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      You are part of the problem.

      Ad hominem attack based on the geographical location where one lives has no place in informed debate. Stop posting forever.

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  13. Re: Trump dies in prison a traitor either way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad she needs that back brace and cannot walk up or down stairs without assistance. Thank god she is not president though right?

  14. It is long past time by SirAstral · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google has been ripe for anti-trust for more than long enough. And for the people that are asking why lets break it down. Google is NOT just a search engine. Visit a few websites and look at who all is running scripts. Most sites will have at least 1 or more of googles analytic, tagging, ads, or static services. Next up is Android... do you use Android? Then you have a relationship with Google like it or not. Play Store is owned by Google or Alphabet whichever.

    Do you use Chrome, google owns it. Remember when Microsoft was in trouble for just having internet explorer installed when you got it? The simple fact is that you cannot do nearly anything without Google on the internet. And while that might seem harmless it is not. Google tracks you, tracks what you do, catalogues what you like or it thinks you like. Google keeps bio-metrics and facial recognition of you. Once you are in, you are IN!

    Google is in your business, they gather and correlate any an every bit of information about you that it can so it can sell it and use it to appropriate more information about you to sell as well. The problem is not just monopoly, it is anti-trust, and that means google colluding with and influencing or even "forcefully/maliciously influencing" businesses they partner with the same way Walmart and Amazon likes to push distributors and suppliers around with their largess...

    If you are a small business... and google tells you that you need to do something or face being delisted or worse... what are you going to do? They are a big player and if you don't play according to their rules they have ways to make life tough for you, no one is going to actually care! Google just simply should NOT be allowed to be a browser, search engine, business data/analytic, application store, ISP, and ad service all at the same time.

    Anti-Trust is NOT about keeping people from using google as a search engine, or ads, or as a content provider, or as application store, or as a mobile OS platform. Anti-Trust is about Google owning and operating all of those at the same time and keeping their API's in house just enough so that they are not easy to use by competitors. Because now that google owns most of the logic on the roads, you still have to bend to their will or you just get no service and websites will not serve up content to you unless you accept google!

    1. Re:It is long past time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google has been ripe for anti-trust for more than long enough.

      Perhaps, but with the Trump crime friends and family I look for a more personal goal. Google has taken some steps to protect against what happened in the last election. They aren't big, but they could have caught the crime families attention and put them in the queue for being attacked. Hell they could just be being attacked because they are more left of center than some companies. That is, sadly, where we are.

      Given that they are actually trying to double Amazon's postal rates, I put nothing past them. Just in the past week there was rampant and flagrant abuse of authority to force disclosure of top secret information. There should be an active impeachment process under way, but we have nothing, no matter what that Orange mistake does. Republicans won't do jack, because it hurts their _party_ more, or they think it does, to act. Democrats won't do jack, because they don't have enough votes and don't want to motivate the republican base.

      The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men (and women) to do nothing. Either we are flat out of good men and women or there is a lot of nothing going on.

    2. Re:It is long past time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google has been ripe for anti-trust for more than long enough. And for the people that are asking why lets break it down. Google is NOT just a search engine.

      Sadly, you don't understand reality, or history

      Visit a few websites and look at who all is running scripts. Most sites will have at least 1 or more of googles analytic, tagging, ads, or static services.

      So what. Nobody is forcing websites to use those things. They could run just fine with out them, but they stupidly believe that they get some value from it. Stupidity and gullibility are not illegal.

      Next up is Android... do you use Android?

      Or, just don't use Android. Stop being a moron who tries to use a cellphone as a computer. If you really are that concerned about Google just get yourself a phone that doesn't do anything but make phone calls. No Andoid, no Google, no problem. And, nobody is forcing cellphone companies to use Android. But they are lazy, corrupt and stupid so they use it. Laziness and stupidity is not illegal.

      Do you use Chrome, google owns it.

      Nobody is forced to use Chrome. I don't use Chrome and I get along just fine.

      Remember when Microsoft was in trouble for just having internet explorer installed when you got it?

      No they didn't. That's not what happened. Microsoft got in trouble because they told OEMs that they couldn't install other browsers on the computers they sold.

      The simple fact is that you cannot do nearly anything without Google on the internet.

      100% Bullshit. You are only dependent on Google if you are lazy and stupid.

      If you are a small business... and google tells you that you need to do something or face being delisted or worse... what are you going to do?

      100% Bullshit. The only thing that will get you "de-listed" is doing something illegal or trying to game the system, e.g., shady SEO bullshit, etc.

      or face being delisted or worse... what are you going to do?

      Well, if you've got half a brain, you'll do what businesses did for decades before Google existed.

      I don't like Google and so I avoid them. It's quite easy. The idea that you can't live without Google is absurd, unless you're lazy and stupid.

    3. Re:It is long past time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Democrats won't do jack, because they don't have enough votes and don't want to motivate the republican base.

      Republicans impeached BJ Clinton and it didn't hurt them one bit. They held control of Congress for another 10 years and won the next two presidential elections.

      Unfortunately for Democrats, hating Donald Trump and being sore losers is not grounds for impeachment.

    4. Re:It is long past time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      while many of your points have some merit. this has nothing to do with any of it.

      someone (or more probable, 'many people') at google pissed off trumpy and now the administration is gonna try to find some shit to retaliate with.

    5. Re: It is long past time by Reverend+Green · · Score: 0

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    6. Re: It is long past time by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Shills be shillin'.

    7. Re:It is long past time by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Got any citations for that FUD? For example, that Google keeps your biometrics?

      None of that is an issue for competition anyway. What matters is things like promoting Google products over others in search. The EU has already dealt with this, and it seems like the US just wants the same now.

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    8. Re:It is long past time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one is forced to use any of Google's products. There are other search engines, other browsers, other email provides, etc. Don't like that a particular web site is using Google Analytics and/or Adsense? Don't visit that website. You and everyone else has a choice. Exercise it if you don't like what Google is doing.

    9. Re:It is long past time by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      Totally agree that Google has been ripe for this for a long time. Decade+. They've got more power and control over the masses than is reasonable and their potential for abuse is MASSIVE.

      But unless there's actual instances of them abusing said power... I don't think they deserve to have anti-trust laws brought against them. And we shouldn't punish those who don't deserve it least the FTC simply become a popularity contest or worse, fall prey to crony capitalism.

      Imagine the potential abuse that a malicious Microsoft could bring to bear. Nearly every business's vital information simply trusts their product to keep it secure. They trust Windows to keep the keys to their kingdom. If you couldn't trust your OS, how screwed would you be?

      keeping their API's in house just enough so that they are not easy to use by competitors.

      Aye, that's a fair complaint. It's subjective and iffy. It's not like others CAN'T use any sort of API. But it's not without merit.

      They keep on bringing parts of Android out of open source and switching to their own system. That's kinda worrying.

      I'd also like them to have different tiers of youtube monetization. Allow advertisers to connect to.... less than G-rated content. So if you post a dick joke, you don't lose all your income instantly. Different content for different audiences. Besides, their claim to fame is that they can connect viewers to the ads they would actually be interested in via the content they're viewing. I'm just saying with all those white robes, maybe detergent companies would want to be advertised on those channels. Or more realistically..... The Deadpool movie should be fine advertising on Cyanide and Happiness. It's unreasonable to simply cut them off completely. Seeing that sort of connection is what Google is supposed to be good at.

    10. Re:It is long past time by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      There's plenty of issues for concern. Here you go.

      He's probably talking about this part: "If I look at enough of your messaging and your location, and use artificial intelligence, we can predict where you are going to go. Show us 14 photos of yourself and we can identify who you are." That'd be your face as a biometric, coupled with you name. But from the context, I think that's Schmit talking about how things COULD happen. What's possible rather than what Google does. Schmit does this. Remember when he said ~"maybe you shouldn't be doing illegal things online"? That was way less authoritarian and more "oh shit dude, big brother is looking right over my shoulder, DO NOT trust me as a confidant!" It was a good thing to remind people of, but he got roasted for that for years.

      Still, the very next line "In the summer of 2016, Google quietly dropped its ban on personally-identifiable info in its DoubleClick ad service. Google's privacy policy was changed to state it "may" combine web-browsing records obtained through DoubleClick with what the company learns from the use of other Google services."

      I consider google to be one of those "doomed to be an evil megacorp" types simply due to the potential for abuse. Mostly because I consider power to corrupt absolutely given time. There was a noticeable shift when they shuffled stuff around into an alphabet. I thought it'd be after the original founders died off, but maybe not.

    11. Re:It is long past time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to look up what largess means.

  15. GNAA calls for anal probes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This just in . . .

    The good bruthas over at the GNAA are now offering free anal probes to all Slashdot editors and contributors. There is no limit on how many anal probes each qualified individual is entitled to! One or one hundred, it's up to you!!!

  16. Hello, this is Microsoft calling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We'd just like to remind everyone that there is Bing.

    1. Re:Hello, this is Microsoft calling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We'd just like to remind everyone that there is Bing.

      The only thing I think of when someone mentions Bing is the annoying insurance salesman high school classmate from "Groundhog Day."

      But he's less annoying than Microsoft...

  17. timing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting that this came out shortly after news that several other countries offered to help Republicans win the last presidential election...related? Sure a bit suspicious...it's not exactly news that large tech corporations have been gathering data...and shouldn't it be the Federal Trade Commission that champions a first looksee, not the Department of Treasury? Maybe if a Google search didn't turn up any results on Mueller investigations, the case against Google would disappear?

    1. Re:timing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Between them, Google and Facebook control 60% of online ad revenue. That duopoly by itself, in a field that can best be described as "civilian propaganda," deserves close scrutiny by regulators. The difference between Facebook and Google is that Google does hardware, OS, software, search, and apps (vertical integration), while Facebook does just apps. Thus, of the two, Google actually has far more of an impact and interacts with nearly every citizen through vertical integration. Vertical integration wasn't OK in the early 20th century, when the Clayton Antitrust Act went through, so we should be especially wary of a new vertical integration that's arisen in the propaganda/media field today.

    2. Re:timing? by SirAstral · · Score: 1

      It is not only interesting but directly correlated.

      I don't know if it happened in this very specific order, but it likely happened something similar to this.

      Facebook was given loads of user data by its own users.
      Analytica harvested that data from Facebook.
      Trump campaign hired Analytica.
      Trump won election contrary to statistics that painted Hillary as a landslide winner.
      People began to freak out about it and wondered how it could happen.
      People seem to still not realize that not only did it happen but it has been happening for much longer than Facebook.
      Now that people are at least pretending to understand what is going on with they and talking about it, industry veterans started saying... you think Facebook is bad? Have you even googled yet?

      It is too early to tell where or if google has any part in this. Did google help the supposed russian trolls spread fake news to help trump? Was google subverted despite google's own intentions? It's all technology, if your computer can be hacked to steal data, then it is not a difficult task to sour data in such a way as to promote/demote certain things with at least some efficacy.

      Regarding the FTC, I would not count on it doing anything other than being the occasional fine collection agency like a mini IRS for the government. Most agencies are more like your employers HR department. They are there for the company not the employee even though they also resolve disputes between them. The FTC hardly goes after businesses like the DOJ. Take the case with the Target breach FTC did perform a joke of an investigation but did not fine Target, it took the states suing for Target to see any harm for it.

      "Maybe if a Google search didn't turn up any results on Mueller investigations, the case against Google would disappear?"

      Lol, good one, who knows, stranger shit has happened.

    3. Re:timing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Russian collusion investigation is just one more shining example that our elected officials care more about staying in office than they care about doing their job. Does anyone believe for one moment that if Clinton won there would have been any kind of a investigation of Russia's participation in the US electoral system? It's bad enough that people are being declared guilty of colluding with Russia just for talking to a Russian. If someone like Trump can win the election what does that say about the losers?

    4. Re: timing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up, Ivan.

    5. Re:timing? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      There's another much simpler, and far less convoluted way that we arrived in the present:

      The Hillary campaign bungled what should have been an easy win by completely ignoring what they thought were 'safe' states in the upper midwest, to their own peril. Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio. And that's the ball game.

      Don't attribute to conspiracy what is adequately explained by sheer incompetence and an incredibly flawed candidate.

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    6. Re:timing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pennsylvania is neither geographically nor politically the upper midwest. The areas that form a T around the Philly and Pittsburgh regions (which are northeastern) are more Alabama/Arkansas.

    7. Re:timing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      edit: (which are northeastern like)

  18. Re:Trump dies in prison a traitor either way by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

    Tour guides have show proficiency in a subject and be able to convey knowledge verbally.

  19. Web Monopolies by SmaryJerry · · Score: 1

    This should be very interesting. Are they a "web search" monopoly or are they an "web advert" monopoly or a "user uploaded video" monopoly. Should the government differentiate between say professionally developed videos and user uploaded web videos? I mean they have utter and complete control of the user uploaded video market and they take away peoples livelihood on a whim leaving people no where else to make a real living. I am just interested as to how they determine which factor is the monopoly or is it all of them. Is it because they dominate all of those areas and user each of the dominate areas to make each other even more dominant. It would be very interesting if congress decided they needed to split those businesses up, you may actually get more than one "YouTube" finally. I mean others exists but YouTube has to have like 95%+ market share of user uploaded videos.

  20. Google? What about AT&T/Verizon/Comcast/Cox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google? What about AT&T/Verizon/Comcast/Cox?
    Google has made products that work, for the price of being tracked everywhere. They made Android as a way to get real-names tied to real devices that cell phones can also use to track the herd world-wide.

    While I dropped regular POTS telephone in 2002, most people haven't. The profits generated by those companies month after month for the last100 years are obscene.

    Cable ISPs are a monopoly, just like ADSLv2+ is a monopoly service. The last mile needs to be owned and managed by a separate company than all the other "pipes." Where I live, we did that with natural gas delivery and we have 50+ choices to get our gas now and don't have to deal with the terrible "support company" dealing with the pipes anymore. Every few months, a fresh report about the most cost effective gas provider comes out so people can choose which fits there needs.

    OTOH, what power does the Treasury Sec have over Google?

  21. Here you go, Mnuchin.... Google Monopoly Probe by sconeu · · Score: 1
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  22. Monopoly? by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 1

    I'm confused.

    What market do they monopolize?

    In what situation does anyone not have a choice as to whether to use some product or service offered by google, or one offered by another entity?

    1. Re:Monopoly? by Patent+Lover · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm gonna google it.

    2. Re:Monopoly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you read the post you are responding to? It appears you did not.

    3. Re:Monopoly? by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      I'm confused.

      What market do they monopolize?

      They have a de facto monopoly on search. To "google" something is synonymous with web search.
      They are over half of the cell phone market (All android). All android phones are tightly integrated with the Google store, Gmail, Google Calendar, etc...
      They provide analytics, scripts, advertising, and other services to all websites.

      In what situation does anyone not have a choice as to whether to use some product or service offered by google, or one offered by another entity?

      Web browsing in general. if you look at the cross-site references to almost every site you browse, you'll see google-analytics, adsense, googleapis, or any other of a number of google-owned and operated sites. They're even worse than the Facebook *like* button in terms of reach and stealthiness - I've never seen a "powered by google" or any mention of using googles stuff in the background on any website.

    4. Re:Monopoly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.google.com/search?q=in+what+market+does+google+have+a+monopoly&oq=in+what+market+does+google+have+a+monopoly

      According to a high hit:
      https://quarterlyvalue.com/is-google-a-monopoly-79627b04941d

      Basically, they have much of the advertising space cornered, but they don't control prices themselves (they auction ad-space). So they meet with the definition (almost) as having the market cornered, but the danger (dictating prices) isn't being realized.

  23. Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google didn't bribe Trump enough.

    1. Re: Translation by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      That must mean Trump is a lot more expensive to bribe than Obama was?

  24. This talk of Google being a "Monopoly" is B.S. by jomcty · · Score: 0

    No one is forced to use Google Search, use Google Chrome, buy an Android phone, use Google Maps, or use any other Google service; you are free to use Microsoft Bing, the Firefox browser, an iPhone or a Garmin GPS.

    Google services don't ship on Microsoft Windows, Apple macOS, or the various flavors of Linux. People are "forced" to use Google products because they are superior - period.

    This talk of Google being a "Monopoly" is B.S., plain and simple!

    1. Re:This talk of Google being a "Monopoly" is B.S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Third party users are being harmed by their tracker ads on all the websites.

    2. Re:This talk of Google being a "Monopoly" is B.S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, 80%++ market share is telling.
      Um, Google hookins to 80%++ of webpages
      It is another defacto Microsoft, but Facebook has another fat slice as well. Stock valuations predict, or price them at multiples - that no one can touch them - that they own that space.

      Can competition errode Google? Fat chance, Moreover other websites are not going to unlink Google hooks and allow people to select a range or others.. Bing and Yahoo will not be catching up. The shoe fits. However I cant think of a solution, and it is unreasonable to ask Google to offload leads to others for free, then suffer reputational blowback when the mini-major suggests expensive alternatives, even worse than what Google already does.

    3. Re:This talk of Google being a "Monopoly" is B.S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess Ford trucks are a monopoly too with that kind of BS logic since it's the most popular truck in sales. I guess tampons are a monopoly too with that kind of BS logic since it's the most popular wad in sales. I guess * are a monopoly too with that kind of BS logic since it's the most popular * in sales.

    4. Re:This talk of Google being a "Monopoly" is B.S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Superior? Living in a dream world there mate. Never user a single Goolag product that I'd deem superior to it's competition other than YouTube, which in itself is about content.

    5. Re:This talk of Google being a "Monopoly" is B.S. by jomcty · · Score: 1

      Do you care to share which search engine is superior to Google search then?

      I suppose the other examples are subjective, but the numbers don't lie; more people seem to use them than not. I used Firefox since 0.6 days but finally switched to Chrome about a year and half before Quantum came out. Not bothering to switch back since I don't care for the new look of FF and there's no compelling reason to do so at this point - too little, too late.

      What's better than Google Maps that's "free"?

      I prefer Android OS in general, and the Google Pixel line specifically. I find the flexibility of what I can do with the device "superior" to the alternatives. The other major device is fine I'm sure; however, I've never owned one, so I'm basing that on its popularity. Perhaps they are a monopoly.

      As for trackers & ads, I run with uBlock Origin and I use PIA and Incognito mode when I want to "go dark".

      Bottom line is no one is forced to use Google products and it's not a monopoly.

    6. Re: This talk of Google being a "Monopoly" is B.S. by Reverend+Green · · Score: 0

      I do love the smell of AstroTurf in the morning.

    7. Re:This talk of Google being a "Monopoly" is B.S. by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      I like startpage / ixquick. But it fails me sometimes and I fall back to google.

      Firefox is still alright.

      The alternatives to android are pretty shitty. Apple? .... Microsoft? But there's an important almost but not quite viable alternative of running F-droid.

      Google services don't ship on Microsoft Windows, Apple macOS, or the various flavors of Linux.

      *Cough* Android is a flavor of linux. *cough*.

      And google services ship with them. And seriously don't like being removed, when you even can. If MS can get an anti-trust suit for shipping Windows with IE, then this is probably equivalent.

      No one is ever a complete monopoly, but they can be dominant enough to push the market around in abusive ways. I'm not sure google has really been all that abusive though. I get the sense that they're stepping in that direction over time.

  25. It's easy, start using Bing by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    If we get everyone to use Bing instead, the government would be forced to break up Microsoft, instead!

  26. you know what's funny? by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    You know what's funny? Both Apple and Microsoft greatly abuse their monopolies in their respective OSes, which actually seems impossible if you think about it.

  27. So funny my ass hurts! by Your+Average+Joe · · Score: 1

    yep, you got it. My ass hurts, the doc says it is hemorrhoids... But I think it has been from all the years taking it from the nice folks at Microsoft. Damn, they have been getting away with this for decades but now the boot is in the ass to both Facebook and Google...

    This stinks like there is a dead fish under the passengers seat.

    Who in the hell keeps giving Microsoft all the freedom they have and everyone else gets to be broken up??? I can expect more butt hurt from the bully that keeps telling me to bend over. yes I am talking about Windows 10 and Office...

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  28. Re:It is long past time, but it is OK for MS??? by Your+Average+Joe · · Score: 1

    so what is being done about Microsoft? 5,000 employee company is paying those bastards $1 million a year to keep the software cops from shutting the business down. Google is not extorting us for $1 million per year....

    get off my lawn you punk!

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  29. startpage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    use teh startpage search function. Google does the work and bears the cost, but there's no link back to monetising you the user. Wins all round!

  30. ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is ok to have a monopoly in one area if it was earned through skill, talent, luck, etc.

    It is not ok to use that monopoly to take over other areas. Fortunately you posted your blithering crap as AC so no one needs to know how naive and stupid you are.

    1. Re:ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pot. Kettle. Black.

  31. Re: Google? What about AT&T/Verizon/Comcast/C by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

    #Whataboutism

  32. Go To Jail. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go directly to jail.

    Do not pass Go(ogle), do not collect $200 million.. .

  33. the upcoming antitrust wars! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    people on the right end of the spectrum are now starting to push for antitrust enforcement for companies on the left side of the spectrum, how long until people on the left side of the spectrum start going after the banks and defense contractors?

    In the end, who wins? The lawyers do!

    1. Re: the upcoming antitrust wars! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This has been happening for decades.

      When Obama came in to office, there was a review of defense spending. Many R&D efforts were canceled.

  34. I see someone has decided Google isn't donating enough money to politicians again.

    This is the way much of the world works. The only difference is the west pays closer attention and such donations must be on the up and up.

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  35. Why Google and not the cable industry? by cshark · · Score: 1

    Google actually has competition, in pretty much anything it does.
    The cable industry doesn't, and it shows. Why hasn't Comcast been investigated?

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  36. Re:Trump dies in prison a traitor either way by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    She's an intelligent woman, that I have no doubt. She has trouble with being forthright and conceding when she doesn't have expertise on a topic. Not knowing everything doesn't make you stupid. As for her public speaking ability? Hillary's public speaking abilities are not as bad as G.W. Bush, but on the other hand Bush would make a fantastic tourguide with his goofy charisma. (and has ability to climb stairs)

    Not being able to say "I don't know" is a flaw typical of male slashdotters.

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  37. Didn't the ISPs Stomp All Over Google Fiber? by The+Snazster · · Score: 1

    Maybe they should go after the ISPs first. Even Google gets slapped around by them.