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Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon 710 Platform For Midrange Android Phones (anandtech.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from AnandTech: Today Qualcomm announces a new entry to the Snapdragon lineup with the first 700-series SoC platform. The Snapdragon 710 is a direct successor to the Snapdragon 660 but comes with a new branding more worthy of the increased performance characteristics of the SoC. The big IP blocks found on the Snapdragon 710 are very much derivatives of what's found on the flagship Snapdragon 845. On the CPU side we see the same 2.2GHz maximum clock on the big cores, but the Kryo 360 Cortex A75 based CPUs are microarchitectural upgrade over last year's A72 based Kryo 260. The little cores are also based on the newer Cortex A55's and are clocked at up to 1.7GHz. The performance improvements are quoted as an overall 20% uplift in SPECint2000 and 25% faster performance in Octane and Kraken versus the SD660. The SoC now also uses the new system cache first introduced in the Snapdragon 845 -- although I'm expecting a smaller, yet unconfirmed 1MB size in the SD710. The 700-series SoC platform sports the new 600 series Adreno GPUs. They have an expected frequency of around 750MHz and up to 35% higher performance versus the Adreno 512 in the SD660.

"In terms of connectivity the new SoC implements an X15 modem which is capable of UE Category 15 in the downstream with up to 800Mbps in 4x carrier aggregation and up to UE Category 7 in the upload with up to 2x CA and 256 QAM," reports AnandTech. "The new chipset now also offers 2x2 802.11ac digital backend for Wi-Fi -- however it'll still need an external discrete analog RF frontend."

31 comments

  1. Meltdown/Spectre Compatible? by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are these equipped with the latest Meltdown and Spectre capabilities?

    1. Re:Meltdown/Spectre Compatible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really like the way you asked the question, like it's a feature that people want.

    2. Re:Meltdown/Spectre Compatible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Meltdown is proprietary Intel (r) technology, unfortunately, but the cores should have decent compatibility with most Spectre variants.

    3. Re:Meltdown/Spectre Compatible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to ARM, Cortex A75 does suffer from Meltdown (unlike any other non-Intel ones that got tested), so Kryo 360 would need to have been specifically changed to avoid that.

    4. Re:Meltdown/Spectre Compatible? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      According to ARM, Cortex A75 does suffer from Meltdown (unlike any other non-Intel ones that got tested),

      False.

      IBM seems to be the only other vendor susceptible to MELTDOWN

      --
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    5. Re:Meltdown/Spectre Compatible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if you paid the big bucks for big iron, you apparently aren't safe from peasant class CPU vulnerabilities. Bummer.

    6. Re:Meltdown/Spectre Compatible? by Bongo · · Score: 1

      Are these equipped with the latest Meltdown and Spectre capabilities?

      Meh, just download your apps from the trusted, curated, walled garden.

      (too dry?)

    7. Re:Meltdown/Spectre Compatible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct me. I thought IBM sold the CPU design to Hitachi at one stage to produce. Japanese fail to test - or was this some attempt to catch up on X86 while looking the other way. Even if it has the flaw, surely hardware protection and memory keys will make it difficult in ZOS.

    8. Re:Meltdown/Spectre Compatible? by Andu77 · · Score: 1

      Wonder what's the performance hit fixing them. For servers CPUs Red Hat reported somewhere between 1-20%(https://access.redhat.com/articles/3307751) and, at the same time, ARM reports an improvement up to 20% for new DYnamIQ cores. Would fixing render A75 a mere A73 and A55 ~= A53 ?

    9. Re:Meltdown/Spectre Compatible? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It turns out hitachi abandoned their own architecture and ported their OS to System Z.

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  2. I apologize to everyone... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

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    1. Re: I apologize to everyone... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

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  3. The Snapdragon 6xx line has always been compelling by geschbacher79 · · Score: 2

    While the top-line phones with the Snapdragon 8xx get all of the raves for performance (especially when benchmarking) to me, the 6xx is where really compelling phones are. You get good-enough performance with long-lasting battery life AND your phone won't feel like it's on fire during heavy use (cough...gaming...cough). The performance differences between $800 phones and $200 is basically negligible at this point, and it's the 6xx chips that allow that.

    This new 710 could be a real game-changer in that regard. Great performance but not trying to max out performance just to please the benchmarkers over at Tom's or Anand or wherever.

  4. your troll-fu is weak! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your troll is unconvincing because it ignores the fundamental fact that every neckbeard on this accursed site has and will never reproduce. Particularly APK.
    Come on man, your blatant disregard for even the least shred plausibility is just plain insulting. Try harder.

  5. no freedom by pD-brane · · Score: 1

    Proprietary, I presume? Usable with recent software for at most a couple of years? No, thanks.

  6. More worthy of increased performance? by Dzimas · · Score: 1

    "The Snapdragon 710 is a direct successor to the Snapdragon 660 but comes with a new branding more worthy of the increased performance characteristics of the SoC."

    Sometimes I wish I was in marketing instead of actually building things. The Qualcomm marketing team changed the product number from 6xx to 7xx to make it "more worthy of increased performance." I'm surprised they haven't discovered four digit numbers yet.

    1. Re:More worthy of increased performance? by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      You have to use those smaller number first to get expectations up for the amazing 1005 which will redefine processing making the standard specification measurements inadequate.

  7. Wrong: Only thing you "got" is zero, lol! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    1. Re: Wrong: Only thing you "got" is zero, lol! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're all talk and no action. You made a violent threat at the end of your post. However, you would almost certainly fail to show up and follow through with your words. You're a coward who hides behind a keyboard and monitor, setting a terrible example for his children. The only courageous thing you could do is to apologize and own up to your wrongdoing. Otherwise, you're just a coward. And there's no way you'd ever come out from behind the safety of your monitor and keyboard to carry out your violent threat.

  8. LMAO @ mental loon Zontar the Mindless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

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    1. Re: LMAO @ mental loon Zontar the Mindless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're far too cowardly to repeat your words in person. I can't blame you, though. If I just said the things you did, I'd also be ashamed. You're accusing others of being loony while you're making violent threats elsewhere in the thread. Oh, the irony...

  9. Listen, Qualcomm by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 1

    Your numbering/naming scheme makes no sense at all!

    It's really hard to say which of these SoCs are new/old faster/older: 425, 625, 626, 630, 636, 650, 651, 652, 653, 660, 710, 800, 801, 808, 810, 820, 821, 835, 845, etc. etc. etc.

    It's sheer madness.

    1. Re:Listen, Qualcomm by lactose99 · · Score: 1

      Its quite simple really, they're all faster than each other.

      --
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    2. Re:Listen, Qualcomm by iampiti · · Score: 1

      Yep, totally agree. Intel CPU's model numbers are logical, Nvidia GPUs too, why can't Qualcomm do something like that?

  10. State of the art mediocrity? by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    So were reading announcements that there's a new mid rangeprocessor? is it excpetionally mid range, never before reaching such middleness before? the absolute middleness on all specs and price? Wow. that must have been hard to achieve

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  12. Re:The Snapdragon 6xx line has always been compell by fred6666 · · Score: 1

    Snapdragon 710 phones will probably be in the $400-600 range, not $200.
    I don't really like these so-called mid range phones because you can usually get the previous year flagship (used) for cheaper and get more performance, a better display and a better camera.

  13. Re:The Snapdragon 6xx line has always been compell by geschbacher79 · · Score: 2

    Right, but it's better than $800. To me (a proud owner of the Moto G5 Plus), there is no reason to ever spend more than $300 on a phone anymore. They don't have better battery life, they don't have better cameras (excepting the iPhone) and they don't look visually better (except for lame gimmicks like rounded screen edges).

  14. Re:The Snapdragon 6xx line has always been compell by fred6666 · · Score: 2

    iPhones don't have the best cameras and yes, flagship phones have better cameras than $300 phones. Just look on Dxomark or any review.

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  16. Re:The Snapdragon 6xx line has always been compell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iPhone does have the best camera among smartphones. period