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Windows Server 2016 Has an Update Problem, Users Say
madsci1016 writes: Frustrated with how long my Windows Server 2016 Essentials was taking to apply weekly updates, I turned to the web. A quick search revealed that I'm not alone. Many people are reporting similar experiences across the web. All sharing stories of weekly patching taking hours and sometimes ending in hung welcome screens. Some of these threads started a year ago and are still active, with no response from Microsoft addressing the issue. If you use Server 2016, have you experienced this problem?
And it's been that way for YEARS. They have yet to get updates right. It's one of the reasons I would NEVER consider running Windows as a server OS. No thanks...
665: The mark on the forehead of Satan's slightly less evil brother, Stan.
I was just about to say this, a server means 100% uptime. You never go windows when you want that kind of reliability because their updates force reboots or on a long enough time line they will hose the system. Windows never has been and currently is not suitable for a server of any kind, it is just too unstable and unreliable.
Just to give you a hint, microsoft does not even use microsoft server they use linux.
Gosh, if only there was some way to restart a process without cycling power
I haven't done Windows administration in a few years, but I'm on the receiving end of Windows update on two PCs as a user. Apt is a brain dead simple package manager compared to the sophistication of windows update.
In practice, apt is much faster and more predictable. I just received notice of updates for about 60 MB of updates in ubuntu. These took less than a minute to download and install. During the process, I was treated like an adult and the package manager let me know which package it was working on and whether it was downloading or installing. One of the most frustrating things with windows update is not knowing how long it will take. The second most frustrating thing is not knowing if it's stuck or just working on something that takes a long time.
Got a decent (that is, less awful to set up, configure, and administer) replacement for Exchange/Outlook?
I mean, MS is trying to make this easier for us by having Windows Server and Outlook constantly get worse (our two most common platforms are Mac OS X and Android; Outlook is half-assed garbage on Mac and a complete joke on Android).
My yearly search for a decent email client always leads me back to Thunderbird, which is fine, but the mess of ultra-complex garbage suggested to replace Exchange is insane. We've got a hosting company to look after AD and Exchange for us, so a replacement has to be easy.
G-Suite might do it, but we need self-hosted, we don't want Google reading all of our email and whatnot.
- chrish