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Now Even Russian Lawmakers Want a Piece of Mark Zuckerberg (qz.com)

PolygamousRanchKid shares a report from Quartz: In an ironic twist in the saga of Facebook's troubles, Russian lawmakers have declared that they, too, would like to question Mark Zuckerberg. According to the Moscow Times, senator Anton Belyakov yesterday offered to invite the Facebook CEO to address the upper chamber of the Russian parliament. "After all, he spoke about information security, not giving access to personal data, preventing the dissemination of harmful content," Belyakov reportedly said, referring to Zuckerberg's meetings with the U.S. Congress and European Parliament. Another reason for those meetings was to discuss whether the social network facilitated Russian meddling in foreign elections.

The U.S. company is in trouble with Russian authorities for disobeying a 2015 law that requires it to store the data of Russian citizens on the country's soil. In April, the state communications watchdog threatened that if Facebook didn't comply, it would face the same fate as LinkedIn, which was banned in the country last year. Much to the chagrin of UK politicians, he (Zuckerberg) has not agreed to multiple calls, and even a mild threat, to testify in front of a UK parliamentary committee.

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  1. I get the impression by maroberts · · Score: 1

    That Facebook is too big to care about the Russian requirement, and that it is effectively calling Russia's bluff by realising that too many Russians 'depend' on Facebook and the act of blocking it would be hugely unpopular. To some extent all this is true with the UK too; it is so ingrained that most action against it would be deeply unpopular.

    In short, Facebook doesn't really need Russia and doesn't really care what it's legislators think. It's perhaps slightly different matter with the EU, which is a more serious source of revenue.

    In any event, Zuckerberg turning up to answer questions on Facebook operations is just theatre. Whilst I'm sure he has an some overview, many of the questions which parliaments want answered are technical and much better answered by their Facebooks legal department after they have presumably gone round and asked the right people in the company.

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    1. Re:I get the impression by jarkus4 · · Score: 1

      Facebook is not that important in Russia, certainly not as much as in Europe or NA. They have only about 35% of the market penetration compared to almost almost 61% of VKontakte (source: https://www.statista.com/stati...) so they can be reasonably blocked without massive issues. I also expect that most of those seriously affected would be outside Putin's power base.

    2. Re:I get the impression by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      So long term Russian government questions will just go away like news reports about social media and PRISM spying?
      What if government in China has social media questions?
      UK government?

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    3. Re: I get the impression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      +1,000,000,000,000

    4. Re: I get the impression by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      people use it to talk shit about the government.

      Thailand one isp blocked facebook for an afternoon by "accident" (they were supposed to block a single page within facebook but it doesn't work that way...). a shitstorm ensued. sure, you can block elections indefinitely but you better not touch something people actually use or they might start asking about those elections....

      people use fb for messaging and stuff..and to talk shit about the goverment.

      sure.. uh.. they could use eh let's say whatsapp for messaging. or linked in. but whats so different about those?

      in russias case though, kinda surprised they haven't done it already. it's not like they give a fuck and people are talking shit about putin on facebook. russian people are talking shit about putin on facebook more specifically. anonymously no less.

      sure, if you use a bunch of other services that do the same things facebook does combined then by all means it is pointless. but shit if I can get all the people from FB moved to some other messaging(public messages are messages still) platform.

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    5. Re:I get the impression by gDLL · · Score: 1

      Global power is not about military strength.

      And yet it is.

      And why should anyone care what Russia does?

      Spoken like a man who does not border those barbarian hords.

    6. Re:I get the impression by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      And why should anyone care what Russia does? They are on their way to becoming a third world country with a nuclear arsenal.

      This is one of those depressingly common cases where you answer your own question, and still don't get it.

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  2. Never Happen by Peter+P+Peters · · Score: 3, Insightful

    FB know that they are the primary propaganda method for Russia to influence American politics. Posting some aggressive Alt-right ads while also posting some pro SJW/BLM message is genius. The Russian continue to divide Americans for their own gain and FB gets rich while America and it's western Allies lose.
    And we all sit by and let it happen...

    1. Re:Never Happen by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      So people all over the USA who comment on domestic politics are really Russian accounts?
      Now Russia invites US social media to Russia to make US social media look bad as part of a cover story?
      So Russian accounts can use US social media again next election?

      Only Russian anthropologists and computer experts have the skills to post on US social media?
      Considering how many people in the USA use social media everyday, Russian university system must graduate many top US experts every year.
      So smart they pass as average US computer user making joke. Thats some powerful cultural education.
      With perfect pose and rhyme to pass as average Joe with funny meme to share on illegal aliens and riots that block the highway to work?
      Russian artist made powerful meme? So funny and of good quality they got shared on social media by real Americans?
      Russian meme workers, artists and engineers produce potent and creative US political art in isolated academic science city.
      Art that follows media trends and uploaded for months. NSA, FBI, GCHQ not notice internet pipeline from Russia deep into US social media heartland?
      Russian encryption to average US social media company is too much math for NSA and GCHQ to see funny artwork from Russia to US social media published in real time?
      Russian workers alter digital art in 3 shifts 24/7 to make creative political art?
      ie for that "primary propaganda" to work Russia would have had to flood US social media computer networks from Russia with art work and no contractor in the US gov/mil noticed?
      Did Russia hide that meme factory really well and its production line of political artwork got uploaded it into the USA undetected? Thats some powerful computer skills.
      Did Russia place Russian people in the USA to meme politically for Russia? Does the FBI know about all the new Russian digital artists now in the USA?
      An American has the freedom to post funny political art.
      Any American with artist skill and political insight might be a Russian anthropologist using their eduction to shape US elections?
      If US social media make so much money every year and best content come from Russian what are US users doing with social media all day? Is Russian meme so good it make billions for social media owners from ads surrounding funny US political cartoon?

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    2. Re:Never Happen by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      FB know that they are the primary propaganda method for Russia to influence American politics. Posting some aggressive Alt-right ads while also posting some pro SJW/BLM message is genius. The Russian continue to divide Americans for their own gain and FB gets rich while America and it's western Allies lose. And we all sit by and let it happen...

      If Russia wants to blow up the US even more than they already have, a good troll would be to give Zuckerberg the current equivalent of "Hero of the Soviet Union" for furthering Russia's goals in the 2016 election. They're already going to lose Facebook as an influence vector-with the changes Facebook is doing it will be nowhere near as effective at best-so might as well get out of it what they can. The furor in the media(both mainstream and alt-right) alone would be worth it for Russia, and it might even damage Facebook enough to hurt the US economy.

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    3. Re:Never Happen by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      It's hard to think of any way in which Facebook being damaged would hurt the US economy...

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    4. Re:Never Happen by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Woah woah woah, easy there, Tex. Struck a real chord with you, didn't that? Take a few deep breaths and ask yourself what would happen if you had to seriously consider the possibility that it's all true. Now read that part again carefully. I'm not saying to bother thinking about whether it's true or not. I'm just saying to consider how it would affect you if it wasn't a forgone conclusion to you. How would that change your behavior? How would it affect your judgement if you had to take this all seriously. What would it mean about you? Think you could cope?

      There. See what you just learned?

      Dang. You are seriously full of yourself.

      If I thought the whole oh noes Russia thing was real, I'd hire every single Russian involved. To sell chewing gum. They are clearly the best and most cost effective advertisers who ever lived on Earth.

    5. Re:Never Happen by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      It's hard to think of any way in which Facebook being damaged would hurt the US economy...

      Just the sheer size of it and it's market valuation. Any time a company of that size loses value it creates a ripple effect.

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    6. Re:Never Happen by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      I don't understand barnyard references. Can you use a car analogy?

    7. Re:Never Happen by GregMmm · · Score: 1

      Well I for one am strengthening America. I don't use Facebook. Propaganda that Russian, or Republicans, or Democrats, or...

    8. Re:Never Happen by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Only if there's a strong chance it'd impact other organizations. Enron's collapse wasn't the collapse of the economy, despite also being a huge organization (albeit having only about 15% of the market cap of Facebook unadjusted for inflation - but I suspect way more jobs were impacted.)

      Facebook is probably overall a leech on productivity across the country, so I suspect in the longer term it would help the US economy overall for it to completely collapse.

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    9. Re:Never Happen by Peter+P+Peters · · Score: 1

      So people all over the USA who comment on domestic politics are really Russian accounts?

      Nope. Interference doesn't have to be complete and total, most propaganda techniques involve a slow drip feed over time. When you're in for the long game, a 1% swing in opinion is enough to make a difference (for example the 2016 election was decided by less than 100000 votes ( 0.1%), the 2000 election was less than 1000 votes). Manipulation is thing, and the Internet is the perfect tool for allowing foreign powers to interfere in domestic politics, so it would be foolish to just pretend it isn't possible.

    10. Re:Never Happen by Peter+P+Peters · · Score: 1

      If Russia wants to blow up the US even more than they already have, a good troll would be to give Zuckerberg the current equivalent of "Hero of the Soviet Union" for furthering Russia's goals in the 2016 election.

      I'm not sure how you think that would work. Espionage is a lot more subtle and smarter than that.

    11. Re:Never Happen by Peter+P+Peters · · Score: 1

      It's hard to think of any way in which Facebook being damaged would hurt the US economy...

      Just the sheer size of it and it's market valuation. Any time a company of that size loses value it creates a ripple effect.

      So we shouldn't prosecute drug dealers for the same reasons? I'm being deliberately obtuse here because one of my pet hates is how big business gets away with a lot because of fear of economic impact but the same rules don't apply to the narcotics trade. Consistency would be good.

    12. Re:Never Happen by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      My statement obviously applies doubly to you. If you knew the tiniest thing about advertising you'd realize this is actually super easy to do. Doesn't require lots of money or expertise. Just requires man hours and a way to skirt US laws that normally protect citizens from this type of thing.

    13. Re:Never Happen by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      It's bad, but it's nowhere near as dangerous as allowing non-citizens who have no vested interest in the good of the country to participate. If you can't figure out why that's orders of magnitude worse you're probably a completely psychopathic douchebag, or just lying about which country you're really from. (Which is how this all started, essentially.)

  3. What piece you take? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    I go for the bank accounts.

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    1. Re:What piece you take? by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 1

      I think they want his balls. Either in the meaning of being bold and getting away with it, or in the meaning "get him by the balls". Probably both.

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  4. Re:Vladimir Putin! by Quzak · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Oh shut the hell up already. Trump is YOUR President! Now grow up.

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  5. Re:Vladimir Putin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    hacked into Americans and made them vote for him. Sickening.

    Hey, do you have any proof that this changed the course of the election at all?

    Also, why were you made an editor here? This is a tech site. Why would they enlist a poltiical hack?

  6. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why would Markdroid Zuckerberg testify before the UK? The EU I understand since it is an important entity. Russia I understand as well since they are also big and important. UK however? It's a little shithole that's becoming smaller with each decade, run by retards for retards. A shithole full of incresing acid attacks, underage sex slave grooming gangs, porn blocks while broadcasting shit like Naked Attraction, a shithole where pirating a song nets you more years in prison than raping a child. It's an irrelevant shithole. Why is any credence given to it as if appearing before their broken down tiny asses has any significance?
    The Anglorats should not be given any validation.

  7. Re:Vladimir Putin! by socheres · · Score: 1

    good point ap who the frank made BeauHD an editor here !?

  8. Zuccy no worry by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 1

    They just want to thank him in person for providing a propaganda platform during the election.

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    1. Re:Zuccy no worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      While the UK wants to thank him in person for providing a spy platform for their Orwellian shittery, an addiction that came after seeing how China does it and taking a lick at that surveillance dick that made them grow a taste for it.
      The USA also wants to thank him for providing a platform to screen illegal immigrants who are so dumbfuck that they reveal themselves on Facebook in bouts of stupidity, or accidental emotional bouts after being baited into revealing themselves. Most often reported by legal migrants who went through all the documentation and hoops and find that the illegals are an insult to themselves which they are.

  9. lol @ Russian "lawmakers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Russia doesn't have rule of law. They are run by a fucking mob, and the mob pick the judges. They kill whoever speaks ills of them.

    Of course, the slashdot neckbeards love them because they somehow think that allies with their dumbass conservatism/libertarianism. You're just traitors. Some republicans aren't complicit - Mueller for example. The rest? Scum actively working against US interests.

    He's coming for Moscow Donnie, don't worry about that. Bigly fucking so.

    Dickheads.

  10. Re: Vladimir Putin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Only idiots believe the russians had anything to do the election. But you know that already.

    -geekpoet

  11. Seems fashinable right now ... by Qbertino · · Score: 2

    Inviting Zuckerberg to bore him with toothless pointless questions and then have a selfie with him. The EU crew were a bunch of undereducated sissies and whimps, no better than US congress. They should've grilled him and put him on the spot with regards to privacy.

    Bottom line: I am very disappoint with my legislators right now. That the russians want to have a big nothing-sandwich with his highness Grandmaster of Zuck is just as fitting.

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  12. Re:Trump is Putin's President by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you call someone a traitor for supporting a lawfully elected leader of the country, you should leave.