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Microsoft Is Talking About Acquiring GitHub, Says Report (zdnet.com)

The Welcome Rain shares a report from ZDNet: Microsoft officials have been talking to GitHub about possibly acquiring the company, according to a June 1 report in Business Insider. BI claims that the two have discussed the possibility of an acquisition on an on-and-off-again basis over the years "but in the last few weeks talks have grown more serious." BI is citing unnamed "people close to the companies" as its sources. "This isn't as surprising as it would have been ten or more years ago," writes The Welcome Rain. "Microsoft is investing a lot in git, including GVFS, a Git Virtual File System to help Git work with very large codebases. What might this mean for the future of Github?"

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  1. Zombie by gigne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A few years ago I would have said it is the end of GitHub. Now it is most likely to be turned into a zombie

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    1. Re:Zombie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, no, it wont be that bad, it will just auto update all repos, insert ad's into every code and break on every 2nd tuesday in a month...

    2. Re:Zombie by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, it's better than being acquired by Oracle. At least Microsoft lets things die a slow death and eventually pulls the plug, pushing people to a new product,instead of pretending to support a product while refusing to update it, meanwhile pulling a few key features from it to further bloat their database offerings.

    3. Re:Zombie by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

      We use their paid version at work. It's okay... But lacks some basic features, like a way to organize your 300+ repos in some sensible way.

      Honestly if Microsoft spur some development of the site it would be welcome. The industry seems to have stagnated a bit - all the rivals like GitLab and Bitbucket are pretty much clones of GitHub and while they have some interesting features there isn't really anything radically different.

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  2. Re:Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by Mattcelt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This has not been my experience in any way, shape, form, or manner.

    Linkedin has become absolutely insufferable since Microsoft acquired them.

  3. Bad idea by c++horde · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a former Microsoft developer, I can tell you, this is a really bad idea. Microsoft internally has one of the best revision control systems I've ever used (Source Depot), so we know they won't use it, but they will control how source code is managed and he who controls the keys to the repository also controls the builds. I vote really, really bad idea. Start moving your projects back to SourceForge.

    1. Re:Bad idea by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Microsoft has good build tools. They have build chains that build onto iOS and Android (mostly to try to tempt people into also building for Windows Phone).

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    2. Re:Bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      As a former Microsoft developer, I can tell you, this is a really bad idea. Microsoft internally has one of the best revision control systems I've ever used (Source Depot), so we know they won't use it, but they will control how source code is managed and he who controls the keys to the repository also controls the builds.

      I vote really, really bad idea. Start moving your projects back to SourceForge.

      The Windows code base is already hosted on Git. It was migrated from Source Depot to Git and in the process GVFS was created to allow Git to scale. This is no secret, it's been reported in the news for over a year.

    3. Re:Bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      GitHub to SourceForge import tool: https://sourceforge.net/p/forg...

    4. Re:Bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Source Depot is no more - Windows is now built using Git

      https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/61pnmv/source_depot_is_no_more_windows_is_now_built/

  4. Microsoft kills products over time by mejustme · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What an incredibly effective way to piss off a large set of developers! The early adopters of git obviously were non-microsoft devs. Just discussing this now will be seen as a very serious threat to most of that population subset. Just look at any other product MS has purchased over the years to see what happened to the linux (or non-MS) version 1-2 years after the purchase.

    E.g., anyone had any trouble using Skype in Linux over the last year, versus 3-5 years ago?

    How long would it take before access to github is integrated into VisualStudio, and how long after that will the command-line version of git start failing to pull/push/etc to github? "Pull must be performed from within VisualStudio Team Explorer. Command-line version of git is no longer supported. Please upgrade to VisualStudio 2020."

    1. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Required+Snark · · Score: 4, Insightful
      "why would they do that?"

      Because they are Microsoft and they live and die by NIH. That is why they have strangled so may other projects they acquired. They are even better at destroying other peoples work then Oracle, and that is world class competition.

      In Microsoft Land the sequence is acquisition => integration => brain death. For example if they buy GitHub then they will "integrate" it with Linkedin, and it will be like using Facebook as a development platform. Good luck with that.

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    2. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by neilo_1701D · · Score: 2

      "why would they do that?"

      Because they are Microsoft and they live and die by NIH. That is why they have strangled so may other projects they acquired.

      Yeah... about that. So go back in time to 2003 (or so) when a small company called Navision up and sold their ERP solution Axapta to Microsoft. Fast-forward to today, and Axapta 3 has morphed into the Azure-hosted Dynamics 365. The original codebase is still there, but it's a vastly superior product and expanded product.

      They acquired it; they improved it out of sight!

    3. Re:Microsoft kills products over time by Xtifr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Git itself is still GPL'd. They can't distribute modified (or unmodified) versions without also providing the source code. Which means that any changes they make to provide a "special" version can easily be taken up by the folks who make the command-line version.

      And even if they could, the result, if they tried such a thing, would be to fragment the community. Which is Github's main asset. Git, if you recall, is a distributed system. There's no need for a central point. A site like Github is merely a convenience for users. The only real benefit of Github is its community. If they damage that, they damage Github, but don't harm Git, because Git users aren't locked into Github.

      Lots of big projects (including lots of big enterprise-y projects that MS customers care about) are already hosted on other sites, especially Gitlab. Plenty of big projects (including lots of big enterprise-y projects that MS customers care about) are cross-platform, and would quickly move to something else (e.g. Gitlab) if Github tried to turn MS-only. There simply isn't enough leverage there for MS to do anything nefarious at this stage.

      Granted, I'd be watching like a hawk for their next move if they bought Github. But this move by itself doesn't really seem to give them any real opportunities, beyond the obvious of making money off of all the commercial projects hosted on Github.

      (And frankly, if they do buy Github, I predict a lot of projects move to Gitlab or some other site anyway, as a just-in-case measure. Probably not enough to damage Github, but enough to help drive the point home: we're not locked in, guys.)

  5. Goodbye by Misagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have already said goodbye to Skype and Linked-In after they had been taken over.
    If this happens, I would say goodbye to Github too for sure.

    The users of Github are not sheep. They are not like Microsoft's typical users that would accept lock-in and clunky interfaces because they don't know any better.

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  6. Nokia, Skype, Hotmail, and LinkedIn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    QuarterDeck, OS/2, Xenix.

    But Google kills off just as much. Remember the much-loved Google-Reader? Wave? Google-Talk?

    I was a paying skype customer before MSFT.
    I was a paying Nokia Maemo customer, before MSFT.
    I was an early adopter for LinkedIn.

    Cancelled my accounts in each, when Microsoft broke each of them.

  7. Re: It will become as crappy as Skype and LinkedIn by viperidaenz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    LinkedIn was shit before Microsoft bought it.

  8. Re:Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is definitely worse, I ignore it entirely at this point. I would also stop using Github for different reasons, just on principle. MS needs to slink off into the night and be happy with its monopoly on dumb users who need invasive IT support.

  9. Re:Glad I switched to Bitbucket so MS gets no cash by novakyu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Has become"? When was LinkedIn not insufferable, with their constant reminder of contact requests that I was ignoring in the first place (and didn't want to log into their website to officially ignore)?

  10. Re:What does this mean? by Aighearach · · Score: 2

    At the very least I think it is safe to say this would be good news for gitlab!

  11. Admiral Akbar said it best... by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 2

    “I am NOT a giant fish!” Oh, wait...

    ...that wasn’t the quote I was looking for. It can go about its business. Move along.

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  12. Re:Host your own? by Xtifr · · Score: 2

    Github offers a lot more than just git. But yeah, few projects would have much difficulty moving to another system, like, say, Gitlab, if Github went rogue. Which makes me doubt that MS has any plans to turn Github rogue. There's simply not enough lock-in there.

  13. How to download content from Github? by LaughingRadish · · Score: 2

    In the event of Github selling out to Microsoft, I want to be sure I can download all issue discussion, wikis, and so on from my projects and then upload that information to a new service, say Gitlab. Could I get some people to suggest programs/scripts for accomplishing this?

  14. Its about the IP by sdinfoserv · · Score: 2

    No, this is about licensing. Part of the new ELU wil be change to assume intellectual property rights from any project posted to GitHub. Micro$oft will own everything. Then charge for it's use.

  15. Bye em out boys by Your_spleen · · Score: 2

    Whenever I hear of MS acquiring a company I'm reminded of that Simpsons episode where Gates buys out Homer. It doesnt appear like that reputation has changed, even after all these years and changes in the company's management. I was an avid Minecraft player and enjoyed frequent additions to the game which kept me engaged. I was skeptically optimistic when MS acquired Mojang, hoping MS would positively influence development, but that didn't seem to come to fruition and updates are less frequent than ever. When I read that MS is increasing contributions/influence in open source I can't help to wonder what their actual motivation is. Then I'm reminded again of that Simpsons episode.