Senator Makes Amtrak Hire Ticket Agents Because 30 Percent of His State Lacks Internet (senate.gov)

McGruber writes: Joe Manchin, the senior Senator from West Virginia, has inserted language in the FY19 Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies appropriations bill that will force Amtrak to employ at least one ticketing agent in every state that it serves.

His reasoning? "Amtrak has told me that most of their sales are now online, but West Virginians buy far more tickets at the Charleston station than most places around the country. That's not surprising, as nearly 30% of West Virginia is without internet access, and mobile broadband access is also difficult in my state's rugged, mountainous terrain, making online ticket sales difficult." Manchin continued: "Our population includes many working class families and elderly residents who are less likely to have a credit card or another means to purchase tickets remotely, but rely heavily on the train as an alternative to driving or flying. Although Matt Crouch's job was terminated today, once the bill is passed by the House and Senate and signed by the President, Amtrak will have to reinstate a position in the state and I will do everything over the next few months to make sure that happens."

Comments

Why blame Amtrak?

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, having no Internet access is a bad deal for Virginians, but maybe the state representative should be doing something about that instead of bitching to Amtrak.

Re:Why blame Amtrak?

[Daltorak]

Yes, having no Internet access is a bad deal for Virginians, but maybe the state representative should be doing something about that instead of bitching to Amtrak.

Have you even been to West Virginia? High-speed internet service is a major technical challenge there because of the geography. It's really mountainous and sparsely-populated. You can barely even get 3G service outside the cities unless you're near an Interstate or state highway. Good places to put towers that effectively cover a large area few and far between.

On top of that, there is a complete lack of cell service, Wi-fi or even microwaves on the central-eastern side of the state because of the Green Bank Observatory. (If you don't know about this, read up on it because it's actually really interesting.)

Re:Why blame Amtrak?

[Daneel Olivaw R.]

can't this be solved by putting booking kiosk (machines) instead of forcing a person to do boring ticketing work?

Re:Why blame Amtrak?

[sims 2]

The free market has decided that some locations don't have a fast ROI so they will never build service there.

Unless the gov't steps in that will never change.

Re: Why blame Amtrak?

[FatdogHaiku]

In 2016 Amtrac got One Billion Three Hundred Eighty Five Million dollars in grant money, from the U.S. Department of Transportation ->Federal Railroad Administration. That's in addition to the money they get for, you know, selling tickets...
https://www.fra.dot.gov/Page/P0249

They also got over a Billion dollars in 2009 as part of ARRA.

So, if a Senator has clout and says Hop, they should check back for parameters after they are in the air...

Re: Why blame Amtrak?

[kriston]

In the US, no transportation mode earns enough in fares to pay for its costs. Interstate highways are free or tolled . Airlines use airports owned by the federal government and unprofitable routes are subsidized by the government, too.

One helpful treatment on this subject is The Economics of Public Issues (16th Edition) by Miller, Benjamin, North.

Re:Why blame Amtrak?

[q_e_t]

Maybe the senator is concerned for his constituents? It does happen sometimes.

Why not install POS terminals instead?

[JoeyRox]

If people can order burgers at a McDonalds POS terminal they can certainly buy train tickets from them as well.

Re: Why not install POS terminals instead?

[pak9rabid]

Sure, but this is West Virginia we're talking about.

Make up your mind

[mcmonkey]

If Amtrak is expected to make a profit, or at least survive on its own, then it must have the ability to allocate resources as needed, including not devoting resources to markets that aren't profitable.

However if Amtrak is expected to serve markets that aren't going to be sustainable, make it a public utility supported by public (ie, tax) money.

Re:Make up your mind

[Solandri]

The problem is Amtrak competes against a service which is heavily subsidized by the government - cars and trucks run on freeways constructed with tax dollars (fuel taxes only pay for maintenance). If the roads weren't so heavily subsidized, the U.S. would be more like Europe and would make greater use of rail transport for both cargo and people.*

So expecting Amtrak to be profitable on its own is unrealistic. You need to subsidize it to the same degree you're subsidizing freeways just to level the playing field. And when you subsidize a small service to that degree, politicians start to play around with how the money should be spent.

* The idea back when freeways were first made was that trucks could transport goods from endpoint to endpoint, eliminating the need for expensive labor-intensive loading and unloading stages, where people at the railyard have to move cargo from the train onto a truck to make it to its final destination, or vice versa. The labor of the loading/unloading stages was the predominant cost to cargo transport at the time, so eliminating it was an economically sound idea. But since then, fuel costs have increased substantially, and the advent of container transport has reduced loading/unloading costs. But we're still stuck with a cargo transport system built based on the old cost structure, which is artificially keeping trucks competitive with trains for long-distance transport.

Have Amtrak tickes sold at post offices

[Streetlight]

It might be easier for people to get tickets if they were available at at United States Post offices and postal stations. Folks would need to plan their travel plans in advance because post offices aren't open 24/7, but even most small tows have postal service outlets.