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Sony's PlayStation 5 Will Launch In 2020 Powered By An AMD Navi GPU, Says Report (theinquirer.net)
According to a new report from WCCFtech, citing "sources familiar with the entire situation," Sony's PlayStation 5 (PS5 for short) will launch in 2020 and be powered by AMD's Navi GPU chip. "While it was previously reported that the much-anticipated console will be using AMD's Ryzen CPU tech, it looks like the chip maker will have some involvement in the PS5's graphics chip, too," reports The Inquirer. From the report: The report also suggests this is the reason behind AMD not announcing a new GPU at Computex this year, because it has found custom-applications for consoles a much more financially attractive space. "Here is a fun fact: Vega was designed primarily for Apple and Navi is being designed for Sony - the PS5 to be precise," the report states, right before going on to explain AMD's roadmap for Navi and how it's dependent on Sony.
"This meant that the graphics department had to be tied directly to the roadmap that these semi-custom applications followed. Since Sony needed the Navi GPU to be ready by the time the PS5 would launch (expectedly around 2020) that is the deadline they needed to work on." It's anyone's guess as to when the successor to the PlayStation 4 will be launched. While the source for this report is seen as reputable in the games industry, last month the head of PlayStation business said the next console is three years off.
"This meant that the graphics department had to be tied directly to the roadmap that these semi-custom applications followed. Since Sony needed the Navi GPU to be ready by the time the PS5 would launch (expectedly around 2020) that is the deadline they needed to work on." It's anyone's guess as to when the successor to the PlayStation 4 will be launched. While the source for this report is seen as reputable in the games industry, last month the head of PlayStation business said the next console is three years off.
Seems more appropriately named for a Nintendo console.
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WCCF has at best a 50% hit rate on their more speculative claims.
If you change your definition of "today" to be a period of 6307200000 seconds, you'll get your wish!
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Anyone taking bets on the name of one or more of their custom chips? You know, to generate buzz by Sony (and every startup today). Some possible candidates:
AI Emotion Chip
Blockchain Quantum Disrupter Chip
Crypto Cybernetics Chip
Loot Manager Chip
Procedurally Generated Realtime Engine Chip
As the person who first dug out the specs on the next gen Playstation over two months ago here:
https://www.semiaccurate.com/2...
I found this 'report' to be laughable. No it was borderline ignorant and seems to be based on my work, rampant speculation, and a random technical phrase generator. Also do note that the phrase I used in the story was Playstation 5/Next, I did that for a reason.
So what do we know? Navi is slated for ~Q2/2019, likely early, next year. Lisa Su held one up at Computex during her keynote, this is not a 2020 product, nor is it tied to the Sony roadmap. I won't go into the sheer technical ignorance of these statements, but lets just say that GPUs don't have a >18 month validation cycle.
As for the bit about Vega being designed for Apple and Navi for Sony, do I really need to comment on that? It sure sounds good if you are at Youtube levels of technical understanding but, well, just thinking about it makes my brain hurt. Go look back at Polaris, the pre-Vega architecture that formed the basis of the PS4 Pro and the XBox OneX, look at the release cycles for those consoles versus the release cycles for the GPUs. See a pattern?
And delaying the APUs because of a console? Really? You might want to consider the current launch cadence for AMD chips, roughly yearly on the consumer side. The Ryzen 1xxx launched about a year ago, March 2017. Ryzen 2 launched in March of 2018. That puts Ryzen 3, presumably with Navi, when? I guess that is up to Sony, NOT.
All in all this 'article' makes my head hurt. It is a rehash of technical stupidity and rumors slapped together by someone with no sources, no clue about how things work, and desperate for clicks. (Note: I am often accused of that but my site doesn't have ads, clicks buy me nothing) For once I wish people on the net would just try and logically parse 'articles' a bit before they repeated them as 'truth', the internet is a big, relatively worthless echo chamber for a reason.
-Charlie
Anyone taking bets on the name of one or more of their custom chips?
Rootkit Management Engine
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Nobody cares what you think either though. That's the impasse we're in, you defending a traitor and me not giving a fuck about what's interesting to you.
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"Lucre" is nothing more than a synonym for "money", or "profit", if something is "lucrative" that means "money-making" or "profit-making". There's nothing "large" or "substantial" about it. It might often be used in these contexts, but that's purely convention in some locales; it's not universal nor part of the definition.
I don't see much of a place for next gen consoles coming out if they aren't going to be capable of ray tracing. The APIs for RT acceleration have already been hammered out and standardized between vendors. We're likely to soon see cards on PCs that do this and game engines that optionally support RT, which greatly improves lighting effects. (ultimately RT is better because global illumination is more realistic to the physics of light than traditionally rendered local illumination)
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dont care if you are for or against
Why do you hate democracy? Move to Russia with your don't-give-a-fuck attitude.
Yup, you are right, and I was in the audience too. I guess I am still jetlagged. In any case the release cycle of GPUs says that they should have silicon back by now for Navi, or really soon if it is not already in hand. It was originally due in Q4/2018 but it got pushed back earlier this year, my educated guess is because of things on the process side.
-Charlie
I just hope they will support retrocompatibility this time My PC games are following me since a long time on Steam. I've kept a few PS2 game for my PS3 and my son DS has... a lot of older NES/SNES/GBA/Genesis retrocompatibility hehe
So does Sony go with the flow and go full Vulkan this time? Or do they have their own idiotic plan.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
When Sony advertises cross-platform-play and still manages to block other consoles with impunity, why give them any more money?
Maybe this is a crazy idea but, we give them money for a gaming console because they make games worth playing on said console. Games that are not available anywhere else.
Yes I know about the debacle with them forcing you to play Fortnite on their platform if you started the game there, but here's the important bit regarding that game:
Fortnite IMO isn't that great as a game, and I'd rather avoid playing it than have to wage a personal crusade against a corporation that won't miss my business anyway
I'd only be ruining my own enjoyment of gaming to be so concerned about Fortnite that I'd willingly miss God of War, The last of us, Wipeout VR etc as a result
Yes, Sony does deserve the backlash regarding Fortnite, so I'll go right ahead and not play Fornite on their platform
I would be happy if the PS5 came with controllers big enough to be used by an adult.
Sony don't even come around here without 5K per eye VR rolling at 120 fps. If you don't have the technology for that, don't launch.
And the fact that Epic Games are the ones that actually own the Fortnite accounts, they choose (with I'm sure lots of money) to make the PS4 Fortnite accounts locked to the PS4, I figure if you want to blame anyone...
Or AMD and their PSP.
"sizeable". Exactly. Lucrative just means making a non-trivial amount (not necessarily lots) of money.
The Atari VCS (formally AtariBox) is scheduled to come out the general public (non-bakers) within 6-12 months of the PS5. Will the general public buy the VCS or wait for the PS5? I know that the VCS will use similar but much lower powered CPU and GPU's. So why pay $200-300 for a VCS when you can get a PS4 for the same price or a PS5 for little much more?
You say things that offend me and I can deal with it. Can you?
AMD didn't launch a new GPU this year because they didn't have enough to offer to make it worth the effort. They could have done a 12nm die shrink of Vega, much as they did for Ryzen, but it wouldn't have gotten them to a fully competitive position against NVidia's current chips, let alone the GTX 1100 series when it appears. They have that machine learning Vega thing on 7nm, but the yield at their fab partner isn't yet high enough to go into mass production with that process. So it makes sense for AMD to wait until 2019, when both Navi and the 7nm process will be ready for prime time.
Console partners like Sony and Microsoft are a significant part of AMD's plans, and it was console sales that kept the company afloat during the dark days between the failure of Bulldozer and the success of Ryzen. But AMD has given up on the computer market just yet, and Ryzen 2 and Navi could put them in a very good place in 2019. That year will be the first time in MANY years, if ever, that AMD will be competing with Intel without having to overcome a disadvantage in process technology, and they'll be on a level playing field with NVidia as it appears that both Navi and future NVidia GPUs will be on 7nm from TSMC.