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SpaceX Wins $130 Million Air Force Launch Contract, Marking a First For Falcon Heavy (geekwire.com)

The U.S. Air Force has awarded a $130 million firm-fixed-price contract to SpaceX for the launch of its classified AFSPC-52 satellite on a Falcon Heavy rocket. From a report: It's the first national security contract won for SpaceX's heavy-lift rocket, which had its first test flight in February. AFSPC-52 is tue to lift off in 2020 from Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The launch will support the Air Force Space Command's "mission of delivering resilient and affordable space capabilities to our nation while maintaining assured access to space," Lt. Gen. John Thompson, Air Force program executive officer for space and commander of the Space and Missile Systems Center, said today in a news release. In an emailed statement, SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell said her company was "honored by the Air Force's selection of Falcon Heavy to launch the competitively awarded AFSPC-52 mission."

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  1. Re:MAGA with American Rocket Engines by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Air Force"? Don't you mean...Space Force?

  2. Re:MAGA with American Rocket Engines by Brett+Buck · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Probably not by the end of the year.

        Everyone is mocking it, but this has been coming for a long time. Space is already a separate command in the Air Force, formed about 15ish years ago, more-or-less, to consolidate space acquistion (Los Angeles, mostly) and operations (Colordao, mostly). It's a logical development, they really are separate disciplines.

  3. Re:Hooray... by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    You better be nice or he won't let you come to Mars with us.

  4. Only one launch by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Note that $130M is only enough to pay for one Falcon Heavy launch with the additional government book-keeping. Commercial satellite vendors pay less, because they don't require as much compliance and paperwork.

    So, it's really nice that Falcon Heavy got a government contract. However, SpaceX is not even close to recovering the cost of the engineering it put into it, and the first test launch. And they may never recover it before this business shifts to their new rocket, fondly called "BFR".

    1. Re:Only one launch by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2

      2019/2020 aren't great but they aren't so bad either. There are 41 flights between them counting this one. Perhaps some won't fly by the end of 2020. Maybe some of the crew ones. And they might start launching their own satellites by the end of 2020.

    2. Re:Only one launch by WindBourne · · Score: 3

      LOL.
      SX launches for a fraction of what ULA does and you accuse SX of leeching tax dollars.
      Gads, I miss when the FUD was off-site and trolls were stopped quickly. Now, /. is nothing but a troll base and being destroyed. Sad.

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  5. Payload adapter by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are they going to let SpaceX make the payload adapter this time? The Northrop Grumman one on Zuma resulted in mission failure.

    1. Re:Payload adapter by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Spotted the ULA executive!

      No, silly-head. The mission failure was due to Northrup Grumman, not SpaceX. The government said so in their own report. By asking if SpaceX is going to be allowed to make it, I meant that SpaceX would do a better job.

    2. Re:Payload adapter by Memnos · · Score: 2

      Browse at -1 and re-read your thread, to see what parent was replying to.

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    3. Re:Payload adapter by Kjella · · Score: 2

      Are they going to let SpaceX make the payload adapter this time? The Northrop Grumman one on Zuma resulted in mission failure.

      Does it really matter? Somebody else is building the satellite, if that doesn't work the mission is a failure too. So it's just shifting responsibility a bit from "We got you to the intended orbit, the rest is up to you" to "We got you to the intended orbit and detached the payload, the rest is up to you". As long as SpaceX is performing whatever part of the job they should be doing they'll get more business, I don't think they care who makes the adapter. Even though it was a classified mission blame was pretty quickly placed where it belonged. Of course SpaceX will need to have an adapter/launcher for all launches including Dragon and Starlink so maybe it's good business to use theirs, but to them it must be like somebody wanting custom tires on the car. Sure go ahead just don't blame us if you get a flat tire.

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  6. Reliability compared to ULA by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 3, Interesting

    SpaceX is good for commercial launches where they are willling to accept a little higher risk to launch off the shelf commercial satellites. For things relating to national security, and one off NASA stuff thats been underway for a decade like James Webb, can they be so confident that it will be as reliable as the ULA stuff. The idea of something like James Webb being lost is pretty scary after its taken so long. SpaceX not being there yet as far as having the same record as ULA, doesnt mean its a bad platform for lower risk launches.

    1. Re:Reliability compared to ULA by moehoward · · Score: 2

      Who's national security? Funny how over the years, that we go from "secret surveillance good" to "secret surveillance bad". Lather, rinse, repeat.

      I don't think that it is a stretch for Congress to enact a law that says that we get a truthful general idea of what these things are for.

      Such as:

      1) This one spies on Russia, China, and other nations for the purpose of "blah, blah, blah."
      2) This one looks at the US, but only for the purpose generally of "blah, blah, blah."

      The over-doing of secrecy in our government has caused me (and hopefully most of you) to distrust our government more and more.

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    2. Re:Reliability compared to ULA by EnsilZah · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, they've definitely had a couple of bumps on the road, but they're getting there.
      They said they're pretty much locking down the design of the current iteration of the Falcon 9 and will continue flying it unchanged as they shift focus to the BFR.

      I think if you look a little bit further ahead, you'll have to ask the reverse question, does ULA's record of reliability hold when they retire their current rocket families (Which they must, one for being too expensive, and the other for using Russian engines) and start launching on a newly designed rocket with newly designed engines when SpaceX will have more than a hundred launches under their belt?

    3. Re:Reliability compared to ULA by rkordmaa · · Score: 2

      There is no such thing as rockets that will never fail. If you have made a payload that is "too big to fail" you have failed already and yes, JWST counts as a poster-child here. There is always a possibility that launch vehicle fails and there is always a possibility that the payload itself fails. With the sums in play you must play it safe and be capable of putting up a backup payload if something goes wonky, because eventually it will. JWST could and should have been spread out into several technically iterative and individually much cheaper birds. Instead of that they have a 10billion superbird, filled to the brim with untested tech, two decades plus in the making and for the money spent no actual observations have been made meanwhile. It'll be great once it's up and running, but that doesn't make it sensible use of time and money.

    4. Re:Reliability compared to ULA by cmdr_klarg · · Score: 2

      The James Webb telescope is being sent up on an Ariane 5. Not ULA.

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  7. Re: Nice! by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2

    I still use Paypal. Never had a problem. The 130 Million is cab fare to space for the government's satellite. What's unfair about charging for the ride? ULA would have charged a lot more.

  8. Re:I'm confused. by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    Not really. He is really an idiot. Who else should pay to launch our military sats? Obviously it is going to be tax-payers.
    The real issue is that /. is now loaded with trolls. /. needs to decide if they are going to clean up this crap or simply allow /. to die.

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  9. Re:Compared to... by WindBourne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ULA USED to charge over 300M per launch. SX has forced it way down and they are still too expensive. That $354M does not include the 1B yearly subsidy .

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  10. Re: I'm confused. by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    which actually, they pretty much used to do. They have gotten ~1B/year subsidy since their inception. To that, they were launch Atlas 5s/Deltas at around 200-350M. Add in that subsidy and adds about ~100M / launch.

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  11. Re: Nice! by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 3, Informative

    Note also that an Atlas at $177M can lift 4,750â"8,900 kg (10,470â"19,620 lb) to GTO, while a Falcon Heavy at $130M can lift 26,700 kg (58,900 lb) to GTO.

  12. Re: Nice! by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Gosh, I hate Slashdot's handling of Unicode. An Atlas at $177M can lift 4,750-8,900 kg (10,470-19,620 lb) to GTO, while a Falcon Heavy at $130M can lift 26,700 kg (58,900 lb) to GTO.

  13. Re:From Russia without sanctions by joh · · Score: 2

    Well, not THIS payload obviously, the FH doesn't use these (or any other Russian) engines.

  14. Re: Nice! by TimMD909 · · Score: 2

    I like their implementation. Makes it easy to identify Apple users.

  15. Re: Nice!-and evil. by c6gunner · · Score: 2

    Anyone who automatically equates "government contract" with "evil" is obviously an idiot, so why would you care what they think?

  16. Re: I'm confused. by c6gunner · · Score: 2

    Did you use google to translate from Russian to English?

  17. Re: Nice! by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

    Meanwhile, in the real world, Tesla sells four times more Model 3s in the US each month than the highest selling non-Telsla BEV. But don't worry your head about that. :)

    SpaceX has been, and continues to, save US taxpayers massive amounts of money versus a formerly literal monopoly, ULA.

    Hyperloop is a curious "scam" in that they released Hyperloop Alpha for free and did not attempt to pursue it, let alone raise money off of it. It's part of the long term plans of Boring Company, but low on their priority list.

    Boring Company has no public funding, and has not sought public funding.

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  18. Re:MAGA with American Rocket Engines by d0rp · · Score: 2

    Was just reading this article earlier today, and it seems to make a lot of sense. We need to A) come up with a plan to protect our satellite infrastructure and B) have MORE cooperation between the various branches of the military (and NOT another branch that will inevitably have different motivators than just supporting the others), so the Space Force is not the answer, but we need to do something.