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AIM Has Been Resurrected. Kind Of. (vice.com)

AOL discontinued AIM, its 20-year-old iconic instant messaging service, last December, months after cutting third-party access to it. Now Motherboard reports a a small team of developers has resurrected it with a private server. From the report: The new chat service is called AIM Phoenix, and it works by running the messages through a private Dynamic DNS run by Wildman Productions, a non-profit group of hobbyist programers. This isn't a new AIM client, it literally uses the old software running on a new server, so it looks and feels exactly like AIM. It's simple to set up. First, you download an old version of AIM from the AIM Phoenix website, register for a new username, tweak the settings to reroute through Wildman Productions' server, and then open yourself up the nostalgic glory of Web 2.0. The old versions of AIM are touchy on new machines and I had to play with a few different versions before I got 5.0 working on my Windows 10 machine.

54 comments

  1. Why use the AIM client? by sleekware · · Score: 3, Insightful

    https://pidgin.im/ still updated and supported

    1. Re:Why use the AIM client? by Topwiz · · Score: 1

      Are the messages encrypted?

    2. Re:Why use the AIM client? by ichthus · · Score: 3, Informative
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      sig: sauer
    3. Re:Why use the AIM client? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they need a better mascot if they want more people using their software

    4. Re:Why use the AIM client? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also Off The Record messaging which has a pidgin plugin.

    5. Re:Why use the AIM client? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you use OTR it is.

    6. Re:Why use the AIM client? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because I prefer chatting with chicks that have vaginas.

  2. Trust? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And we should trust the person(s) behind this not to be monitoring/recording all the messages that flow though their server?

  3. Web 2.0? Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    AIM was not Web 2.0. AIM, ICQ and the likes existed as part of the web long before Web 2.0 was a term.

    Captcha: change

    1. Re:Web 2.0? Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's vice. All of the authors are 21 year old special ed dropouts.

    2. Re:Web 2.0? Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AIM was not Web 2.0. AIM, ICQ and the likes existed as part of the web long before Web 2.0 was a term.

      Captcha: change

      Reminds me of kids today commenting on mid 1980s pictures and laughing about the "70s pictures".

    3. Re:Web 2.0? Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AIM was not Web 2.0. AIM, ICQ and the likes existed as part of the web long before Web 2.0 was a term.

      Captcha: change

      Yeah I was totally unaware that we've supposedly moved past "2.0" already.

    4. Re:Web 2.0? Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't make fun of APK's kids like that. They can't help that it is a genetic condition inherited from the father.

  4. Was part of the Internet, yes by evanh · · Score: 1

    Independent of the Web altogether.

    1. Re:Was part of the Internet, yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As I recall, initially that was via dial-up modem access direct to AIM servers, so a glorified BBS, and thus no Internet involved until later on as it became a thing. And I believe a relative kept using dial-up access long after the Internet was more common (so then it connected to the 'net from that AIM BBS server I suppose). Not so?

      RO

    2. Re:Was part of the Internet, yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Web =/= Internet

  5. Unanswered question by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    Why would anyone want to do this?

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    #DeleteChrome
    1. Re:Unanswered question by hviniciusg · · Score: 1

      I think there is a lot of people that would have a lot of found memories using AOL. maybe them would like to revive their experience in this platform.

      but i agree, it does not make a lot of sense.

    2. Re:Unanswered question by jythie · · Score: 2

      For the fun of doing it? Outside that, yeah, there is not much reason. I could kinda see it if it maintained the user's contact list so was just a drop in replacement to keep chatting with the same people, but if it can not do that I am not sure what purpose it serves.

    3. Re:Unanswered question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      asl?

    4. Re:Unanswered question by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 4, Funny

      The good old days on the internet:
      Where the men were men, the women were men and the children were FBI agents.

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      Time to offend someone
    5. Re:Unanswered question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ASL???

    6. Re:Unanswered question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The good old days on the internet:
      Where the men were men, the women were men and the children were FBI agents.

      ROFLMAO Those were the days my friend, we thought the fun would never end.

    7. Re:Unanswered question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      18/f/parent's basement

    8. Re:Unanswered question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its for nostalgic purposes, No harm can come from it. Many people like AIM and the protocol and so on so want to preserve the uniqueness.

  6. I blame Microsoft. by Kenja · · Score: 0

    Had they not totally Bjorked up Skype (and yes I use her name as a pejorative) there would be no need for any competitors, new or old.

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    "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
    1. Re:I blame Microsoft. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Had they not totally Bjorked up Skype (and yes I use her name as a pejorative) there would be no need for any competitors, new or old.

      That is ridiculous. There is always a need for competitors. A product/company/thingy without competition becomes stagnant, regardless of how dope it is. That aside - there is no practical reason to resurrect AIM. Somebody did it because they could - not because MS did something stupid with Skype.

    2. Re:I blame Microsoft. by tepples · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't the use case for AIM, Skype, and Discord be equally served with an extension to the IRC protocol that lets a user choose to store chat history on the server?

    3. Re:I blame Microsoft. by shaitand · · Score: 1

      It would be interesting to find out why. There was never a point in history when there weren't superior solutions for anything aol made, including aim. AOL was never anything more or less than a platform that exploited ignorance of what the internet was to create the impression that its solution was the internet. We shouldn't forget the lessons learned when we overcome predators who attempt to cultivate ignorance and exploit it for control and profit but we've seriously broken something if we look back on them with nostalgia.

  7. Jabber and IRC are 1000X more advanced by mysidia · · Score: 1

    And at least Jabber offers the possibility of TLS and a decent password hashing system that allows strong passwords without them getting truncated for validation and encoded using a weak crackable hash. So what's the draw of the AIM client today?

    1. Re:Jabber and IRC are 1000X more advanced by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      And at least Jabber offers the possibility of TLS and a decent password hashing system that allows strong passwords without them getting truncated for validation and encoded using a weak crackable hash. So what's the draw of the AIM client today?

      Nostalgia.

      Same reason anyone would want to play (original Atari) Pitfall ...

  8. Retro Clients by Only+Time+Will+Tell · · Score: 1

    My biggest question is when will we resurrect the ICQ beta clients and MSN Messenger? Nothing takes me back to my college days more than the thought of hearing the ICQ sound from behind doors as I walked down the hall. Everyone was too lazy to get up and ask each other face-to-face if they were doing dinner.

    1. Re:Retro Clients by dejitaru · · Score: 1

      Isn't ICQ still around?

    2. Re:Retro Clients by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My biggest question is when will we resurrect the ICQ beta clients and MSN Messenger?

      ICQ has been going pretty much since its inception, I'm still using it via Pidgin.

    3. Re:Retro Clients by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't ICQ still around?

      it is... and still works... I haven't received anything or seen anyone in years, but i'm still online!

    4. Re:Retro Clients by lannocc · · Score: 1

      25239342 here... hit me up!

  9. Preferably don't use abandoned software!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least, not for long-term.
    Replace it with a whole new client ASAP.
    Call it AMI or some shit. (for the sake of CR)

    Lord only knows we need a good IM replacement.
    Skype is shit.
    Discord is a laggy piece of web-shit.
    Steam Chat is Steam, another laggy drive-thrashing piece of shit.
    Only things left are Jabber and IRC, which nobody under 30 has heard of.
    Google Hangouts is hilariously bad even today.
    That's it. (yes, that's it!)

    As much as I never cared for AIM, it was at least reasonable.
    It was no MSN Messenger (v6.5!), but it worked.
    On that note, I miss Google Talk. Now that was a fucking solid IM.

    1. Re:Preferably don't use abandoned software!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >That's it

      Wrong. Paltalk. Camfrog, and more. Whole goddamned slew of video chat programs that does everything a basic IM clients can do, and then some.

    2. Re:Preferably don't use abandoned software!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's ICQ? Never used it but it is said to exist. Probably sends all your data to Mossad.
      There are at least a dozen or hundred others but they're not well known. Maybe voice chat software like Teamspeak, Mumble do keyboard chat, I never used them though because online gaming with mike or headset was not my thing.

      Should "Slack" be on your list?
      I think Counterstrike 1.5 (not 1.6) was a good interface for chatting, keyb and voice. (with the keyboard hardwired to qwerty though. do the young even know to type qwerty on non-qwerty keyboard anymore?). It would be lighter on resources than web shit.

      I did try tox, it worked. But not on every network, like can't chat with friend stuck in hospital.
      I wonder about GNU Ring.

  10. AIM-54 Phoenix by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

    When I saw the title, I thought it was referring to the AIM-54 Phoenix missile, used by the F-14 Fighter. With another Top Gun movie coming out, it was a possibility.

    1. Re:AIM-54 Phoenix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The AIM-54 Phoenix is still in service with the Iranian Air Force's F-14 Tomcat fleet.

  11. Misleading Title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought that the refered to the Rockwell AIM-65 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-65?wprov=sfla1.

  12. Reinventing the Wheel by DatbeDank · · Score: 2

    What I find hilarious is how Slack came about. It's the best example of recreating the wheel I can imagine. There is no reason AOL couldn't have made AIM into what Slack is today.

    And yet corporations pony up tons of cash for the privilege of using it when there are a ton of chat programs around that use the same thing.

    I need to start thinking like a fashion designer. What's old is new and what is new is old.

    Maybe I should resurrect PDAs again, oh wait they already did that with Tablets.

    1. Re:Reinventing the Wheel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PDAs were more useful than Tablets and cell phones. Please bring them back. Writing on them was far easier than using a phone touch-screen keyboard.

    2. Re:Reinventing the Wheel by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      They weren't more useful, but they did have a superior user interface. Graffiti was amazing, easy to learn, and as fast as handwriting. It ran on devices with tiny amounts of processing power, and it even had gestures. A modern version would be something like Swype, but - speaking as someone who used it from the beta days until about six months ago - that was a brilliant product that just wouldn't sell to individuals, because most couldn't really grasp the advantages of it. As of about two years ago, every update made it less effective. Even today, if I show someone SwiftKey or GBoard, neither of which is as good as Swype in its prime (but far better than the standard iOS keyboard, e.g.), the most likely response is "oh, that just looks too hard, I don't really know where the keys are". If you do know where the keys are, you can be a wizard with it.

  13. protocol support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does their server support the TOC2 protocol or only OSCAR?

    1. Re:protocol support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It supports the 'my penis jackhammering your pooper' protocol.

  14. ~Re:AIM-54 Phoenix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good story bro!

  15. "register for a new username" by pepsikid · · Score: 1

    Wha? Why can't I reclaim my old username by requesting a confirmation link be sent to my AOL email account?

  16. You're thinking of AOL, not AIM by evanh · · Score: 1

    AIM was just another ICQ rip-off. Not to dissimilar to todays Telegram, WeChat, Whatsapp and the likes.

  17. I miss when everyone used IM clients by Daralantan · · Score: 1
    Eventually most people just switched to "Oh I don't use Aim/whatever anymore, talk to me on facebook!"

    Please no.