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Patreon Is Suspending Adult Content Creators Because of Its Payment Partners (vice.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the under-pressure dept.

Some adult content creators on crowdfunding site Patreon are being suspended due to the suggestive material they produce. The platform said that they are increasing efforts to review content, due to payment processor pressure. Motherboard reports: In late 2017, Patreon expanded its adult content guidelines, to include stricter guidelines for "bestiality, incest, sexual depiction of minors, and suggestive sexual violence." At the time, it resulted in suspensions and bans of many adult content creators whose work Patreon previously permitted, but no longer fell in line with new guidelines. Now, many more adult content creators are reporting that they're experiencing a renewed wave of suspensions on the platform. Patreon's guidelines for adult content state that "all public content on your page be appropriate for all audiences," and "content with mature themes must be marked as a patron-only post." For several of these reports, Patreon warned that "implied nudity" was the reason for the suspension, where it appeared in public areas or publicly-visible patron tiers and banners. "You can't use Patreon to raise funds in order to produce pornographic material such as maintaining a website, funding the production of movies, or providing a private webcam session," the guidelines state.

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  1. The transactions are high risk by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    it's not nothing to do with moral policing. Credit card transactions are effectively loans. In large parts of the world you have a legal right to dispute any charge on your card as a result. Adult content has a high percentage of disputes (probably from guys who's wives/girlfriends notice the charge). Even if you can prove the charge is valid it's still expensive to do so. Hence why nobody wants to be involved in it.

    With corporations always, always, always follow the money. Anything bigger than a leomonade stand is completely amoral.

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    1. Re:The transactions are high risk by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's why we need a way of making payments that can't be arbitrarily denied by middle-men. Bitcoin was great before it got hijacked by ponzi scheme "investors".

      The credit card mafia speaks with one voice, with Mastercard differing from VISA by nothing but name. They collude for prices, collude for policies, collude for denying business. And collude for bribing legislators to deny competitors who are not a part of the cartel.

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    2. Re:The transactions are high risk by jeti · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At one point, Visa tried to prevent German shops from selling Cuban cigars. I guess these transactions were high risk as well and Visa did not try to police the world according to US political views.

    3. Re:The transactions are high risk by Aristos+Mazer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The ability to buy fiat currency with bitcoin is a key part of its ability to replace fiat currency. Those "investors" that KiloByte put in quotes do the same thing with fiat currency. Monetary traders mediate the prices between different currencies and make money on the margins.

      There's no ponzi scheme for bitcoin that is any different from the ponzi scheme of fiat currency... only the volatility is different. Bitcoin doesn't have a Federal Reserve or equivalent to stabilize itself. No one is moving banking interest rates in order to stabilize the Bitcoin currency, so it fluctuates on pure demand. That's how currency works.

    4. Re:The transactions are high risk by CaptainDork · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In the beginning, batshit crazy Bitcoinerites touted the "off the grid" anonymous, fee-less utopia of cryptocurrencies.

      We of sound mind informed that as soon as Bitcoin found a way to convert to more traditional currency, the shit would hit the fan.

      And, that's precisely what's happened.

      Now Bitcoin is subject to regulation, has lost its anonymity, is a commodity with exchange rates to fiat, and the IRS is working to tax transactions.

      Effectively, across the planet, Bitcoin is a proxy USD.

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    5. Re:The transactions are high risk by BlueStrat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      's not nothing to do with moral policing. Credit card transactions are effectively loans. In large parts of the world you have a legal right to dispute any charge on your card as a result. Adult content has a high percentage of disputes (probably from guys who's wives/girlfriends notice the charge). Even if you can prove the charge is valid it's still expensive to do so. Hence why nobody wants to be involved in it.

      It has little to do with disputed CC charges.

      It has everything to do with government pressure applied to banks/CC companies to remove the ability to perform financial transactions from certain select legal businesses/individuals without due process or any proof of any crime. It was called "Operation Choke Point" under Obama and Holder.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      The same tactics are being used selectively against many adult/sex-related industries as well as gun dealers/stores and others the government considers "unsavory" for whatever political/ideological/moral/financial/religious reasons they choose.

      It was bad under Obama, it's bad under Trump. This should not be partisan at all. If the Rule of Law were still a thing in the US, those responsible would be seeing a prison cell, but sadly... .

      Strat

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    6. Re:The transactions are high risk by Cederic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At the end of the week I'm going to make a payment of round 4k GBP online.

      I could use my debit card, I could use a direct bank transfer, I could be a total fuckwit and use paypal.

      Instead I'm going to use the payment mechanism that includes free fraud protection, so that in the event I'm totally fucked up and transferred 4k to a scammer I'll get my money back.

  2. Re:The odds of my kid getting gunned down by Tom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are two different approaches to the question of truth.

    The scientific approach: Make up some theory, compare it against reality, adapt it as necessary to be a better fit, repeat until you can't think of improvements anymore

    The religious approach: Make up some theory, tell everyone else about it, build a system around it, selectively pick those facts that confirm your theory and with the support of the system you built, push these facts and suppress the others

    The US is an outlier in western civilisation. The importance of religious is comparable to 3rd world countries, but not to other western countries. As is the attitude towards anything sexual.

    (note that attitude doesn't mean people don't have massive businesses in this area. it just means they are considered smutty)

    The "abstinence programs" that the entire developed world (and good parts of the developing world) laugh about are not explainable in terms of western civilisation or education or anything except the backwater religiousity of the USA. Once you understood that religious thinking is the cause for such insanities, you understand that contradictory facts have zero effect.

    If anything, contradictions strengthen religious belief.

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