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Coffee Drinkers Are More Likely To Live Longer. Decaf May Do The Trick, Too (npr.org)

Coffee is far from a vice. There's now lots of evidence pointing to its health benefits, including a possible longevity boost for those of us with a daily coffee habit. From a report: The latest findings come from a study published Monday in JAMA Internal Medicine that included about a half-million people in England, Scotland and Wales. "We found that people who drank two to three cups per day had about a 12 percent lower risk of death compared to non-coffee drinkers" during the decade-long study, says Erikka Loftfield, a research fellow at the National Cancer Institute. Participants ranged in age from 38 to 73. The association held up among drinkers of decaffeinated coffee, too. In the U.S., there are similar findings linking higher consumption of coffee to a lower risk of early death in African-Americans, Japanese-Americans, Latinos and white adults, both men and women. A daily coffee habit is also linked to a decreased risk of stroke and Type 2 diabetes.

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  1. More Coffee - Less Sugary Soda by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's how it works.

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    1. Re:More Coffee - Less Sugary Soda by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's how it works.

      Unless it replaces diet soda, as in my case.

      Diet soda is even more unhealthy than regular soda though- so replacing diet soda is still a net positive in terms of health.

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    2. Re:More Coffee - Less Sugary Soda by rgmoore · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There's increasing evidence that fake sugar is worse for you than real sugar. My understanding is that the fake sugar affects the sugar receptors in the rest of your body the same way it does the ones in your tongue, which makes it prone to induce type II diabetes- almost exactly the opposite effect from what you want.

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    3. Re:More Coffee - Less Sugary Soda by geekmux · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's how it works.

      Let's stop with the bullshit already.

      People don't drink actual coffee anymore. They drink iced-mocha-caramel-chocolate fuckuccinos that make sugary sodas look like a fucking green smoothie by comparison. That's how this "works".

    4. Re:More Coffee - Less Sugary Soda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What the hell is up with /. recently? Not that it was always an utopia of constructive and civil accord, but now every topic is filled with ignoramuses who can't write a sentence without spewing curse words and aggression. Are you all like this at work as well? Or just feeling brave on the internet? The level of discourse is tragic, but maybe it's a sign of the times.

    5. Re:More Coffee - Less Sugary Soda by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      That's still two sugars above what you should be drinking.

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    6. Re:More Coffee - Less Sugary Soda by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can't speak for the others you motherfucker, but I'm only brave on the Internet. In real life, I run away from butterflies. Those random flight patterns are really frightening!

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    7. Re:More Coffee - Less Sugary Soda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      The type II diabetes is garbage science if there's actually any science actually behind the claim. As someone with hypoglycemia (diabetes is known as hyperglycemia, btw), let me explain.

      Too much sugar causes type II diabetes because to process the sugar your body has to excrete large amounts of insulin. If it doesn't do this, the sugar builds up in your blood and you die. The problem comes in that your body becomes resistant to insulin the more you have in your blood. Thus you need more and more insulin to get the same effect. At some point your body just can't create enough insulin to absorb the sugar because you've become so tolerant to insulin. At this point you need artificial sources and welcome to type II diabetes.

      If what you said were true, drinking a diet coke would increase your insulin levels, but there would be no sugar for it to attach to (the sweetener used in diet coke is actually one of the amino acids used to make up muscle tissue, not similar to sugar at all). If your body did this, which is what would be needed to cause type II diabetes, your blood sugar would crash to dangerously low levels. This is what's known as hypoglycemia. And what happens when your blood sugar crashes? You fall in to a coma, and potentially die. I have lost consciousness more times than I care to admit because of this. Fortunately I'd eaten shortly before which allowed my blood sugar to recover. So if diet coke had a habit of causing people to pass out and die, I'd believe it'd have the ability to cause type II diabetes, but without that, I call bullshit.

    8. Re:More Coffee - Less Sugary Soda by wonkavader · · Score: 3, Informative

      Different chemicals may cause different issues, but all sweet drinks cause the same hunger response. Sweet on your tongue makes you eat more -- seems to be true for all primates. We know this from monkeys studies.

      So diet drinks increase your caloric intake -- it's not the drink itself which does it, but the calorie intake goes up just the same. Drink diet soda, and get fat. Maybe not as fat as on sugar drinks, but certainly more fat than on water.

    9. Re:More Coffee - Less Sugary Soda by philmarcracken · · Score: 2

      Do you have some sources for that increasing evidence?

  2. Coffee makes some drinkers immortal? by mykepredko · · Score: 3, Funny

    From TFS and TFA: "We found that people who drank two to three cups per day had about a 12 percent lower risk of death compared to non-coffee drinkers."

    Wow. I gotta start drinking coffee.

    Or, could it be a poorly worded sentence that the writer jumped on?

    1. Re:Coffee makes some drinkers immortal? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2

      Some of this could be ascribed to not falling asleep at the wheel, and to socialization factors, of course.

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  3. Addiction by PackMan97 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Even though caffeine is a fairly weak drug, this shows the power of addiction. Caffeine addicts need that morning cup 'o joe so badly that they'll tell the Grim Reaper to bugger off and wait until they've had their coffee. Apparently it works!

    1. Re:Addiction by Lucas123 · · Score: 2

      I admit to having an addiction to coffee, however, calling it an "addiction" is a bit of hyperbole. Last year, I decided to stop drinking coffee; I had a mild headache for a day, which in the afternoon I cured with an ibuprofen tablet. After that day, no problem. A couple months later (after smelling some exquisite espresso), I decided the benefits of not drinking coffee didn't outweigh that heavenly flavor. So, I went back to drinking it.

      Honestly, though, stopping again would be no great feat. It's not crack cocaine or heroin.

    2. Re:Addiction by pnutjam · · Score: 3, Informative

      Stimulants can have a calming effect on people with ADHD.

    3. Re:Addiction by ichthus · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have also never been diagnosed, but

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  4. Black Coffee by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    When you put in Cream and Sugar in it. I expect you counteract many of its positive effects. Like with a lot of healthy foods, you should be ingesting it without other ingredients.

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  5. Decaf result is interesting by rgmoore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The result showing decaf might have a similar effect is possibly the most interesting point in the study. It suggests that the effect is from something other than caffeine, which would mean there's more interesting chemicals in coffee.

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    1. Re:Decaf result is interesting by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

      The result showing decaf might have a similar effect is possibly the most interesting point in the study. It suggests that the effect is from something other than caffeine, which would mean there's more interesting chemicals in coffee.

      Coffee is extremely complex chemically. There is a lot to coffee besides just the caffeine.

      This. And I don't it's news that coffee can be good for you. An excerpt from this page:

      Coffee is a rich source of disease-fighting antioxidants. And studies have shown that it may reduce cavities, boost athletic performance, improve moods, and stop headaches -- not to mention reduce the risk of type 2 diabetes, colon cancer, liver cancer, gall stones, cirrhosis of the liver, and Parkinson's diseases.

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  6. Making good coffee is a pain in the neck by snapsnap · · Score: 2

    I know when I was severely depressed I didn't have the energy to drive to the place I bought my beans, roast them myself, grind them, and use my french press. I just gave-up on making coffee for several months. The study probably has more to do with the motivation of the subjects rather than coffee.

  7. Risk of death by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "We found that people who drank two to three cups per day had about a 12 percent lower risk of death compared to non-coffee drinkers"

    Nope. I think you'll find if you run the study long enough that everyone has a 100% risk of death no matter what they drink.

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  8. Re:With the amount of coffee and dark chocolate I by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Funny

    I should be immortal.

    Well, if you haven't died yet- perhaps you are.

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  9. Re: drink up! by eneville · · Score: 4, Insightful

    selection bias. people who worry about drinking coffee live shorter lives.

    I was thinking there could be some of that going on. I wonder though if its more likely to be related to other hobbies, such as cycling, or running where people drink coffee along with a physical task that involves a coffee break. So could be the exercise rather than the coffee. Would be like saying "wearing sports clothes extends your life" just because those who do athletics wear sports clothes.

  10. What did the control group drink? by GodWasAnAlien · · Score: 2

    What did the control group drink?

    My guess is soda of some kind, even if this is not measured.

    Compare coffee drinkers with water drinkers (or at least drinks without sweeteners). Otherwise the test is not testing what you think it is testing.

  11. Re:Oh crap by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    Drop the fruit juice, it's mostly sugar.

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  12. Re:12% Decrease in Death-100% Increase in YellowTe by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to my study, 100% of the people who masturbate died within 150 years.

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  13. Decaf?! Abomination!!! by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Funny
    Decaf also might make you live longer, but it is not worth living longer if you drink decaf. Of all the pointless things in the world, decaf takes the cake. Sponge cake. Layered with mascara pone cheese, tiramisu, but I digress.

    You must buy a plot in the Great Smokey mountains, and tend to your own coffee shrubs, that you grow in shade, you pick the berries, feed them to the civet cat you own, and take the excreted beans, roast them yourself, grind them just 3 minutes before you brew and brew it fresh using natural spring water that you fetch it yourself. That is coffee. If not, might as well drink starbucks.

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  14. Re:Wow, your experience mimicks mine by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm naturally an insomniac, although becoming less of one as I age. My kids now have the same problem, other people in my family have had the same problem. Insomnia runs in the family. When I was a teenager going through my early 30's I would live on a three day cycle. Night 1: no sleep and not feel tired the next day; night 2: 1 or 2 hours sleep max, but I do feel tired in the morning; night 3: sleep like a log- body reset.

    It was an endless cycle of those three days. In my 30's I started drinking more coffee- and found I started sleeping more often- my 3 day cycle became a 2 day cycle... and then sleeping most nights; these days there is probably only on average one night a week I don't sleep at all. Usually when I don't sleep it's on a night I don't have coffee before I go to bed.

    Mentioned it on the phone to my mother one evening and she said that she had the same reaction to coffee. She doesn't sleep unless she has her coffee. I think there is some genetic link there somehow. Caffeine effects some of us differently with the opposite reaction.

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  15. Disclaimer by Tsolias · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The starbucks 1200 cal. coffee with all that artificial sweeteners and the sugar kills you.

  16. I am a coffeee drinker, yet... by Framboise · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A correlation is far from proving causation. It could just be that coffee drinkers belong preferentially to a more wealthy group, which enjoys better chances of living longer.

  17. Re: drink up! by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    you obviously did not read the study...the study did not look at other lifestyle indicators - it was meant to see across 500k individuals was caffeine life extending...they found out that coffee of any sort was life extending. other lifestyle changes also extend life and that has already been proven.

    I read what I could, and from what I read they made no attempts to normalize against those other known lifestyle indicators. They may have, as it would be very important to drawing a conclusion about causation, but I didn't see it stated. If you have a proven lifestyle indicator that correlates with coffee drinking, than it might not be the coffee that extends life.

    If they grouped people according to lifestyle, and saw the caffeine correlation within those groups instead of across them, then you have a more solid basis.

  18. Re:California Prop 65.. by avandesande · · Score: 2

    I am sure the adhesive on those stickers cause cancer maybe the sticker needs a sticker?

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  19. Re: drink up! by wonkavader · · Score: 2

    Yes. This is utterly obvious.

    "My doctor says not to drink coffee, now that I have (cancer|high blood pressure|been infected by a xenomorph)."

    So many crap studies show the same thing. Same with wine, same with beer, etc. Often the studies aren't crap, but the reporting on them is.

    See the chocolate study hoax as an example: https://www.npr.org/sections/t...

  20. Re: drink up! by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

    they weren't looking to see if coffee led to extended life - how many ways do I have to say that? it was study on caffeine metabolism that happened to show coffee extended life. are you unable to process that?

    Yes, I can process that. But what they were looking for doesn't matter. What they conclude matters. They can't draw the conclusion of causation simply due to correlation.

    If I do a study to determine if people who own golf clubs are wealthier than those who don't, and along the way I happen to discover people who own golf clubs are better golfers than those who don't, I can't conclude that owning golf clubs makes you a better golfer, even though it correlates. I'd have to study other factors such as practice, which also correlate, and eliminate those before I could determine if simply owning the clubs made them better golfers.

  21. Re: drink up! by ole_timer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    here's the complete results: Coffee drinkers were more likely male, white, drinkers of alcohol and former smokers. Those drinking four cups or more a day, continued to smoke and were more likely to drink instant coffee. (Starbucks take note!) Those drinking less were more likely to be “in excellent health,” older and with a university degree. Concerning all-cause mortality, coffee drinking, in a dose-dependent way was protective, compared to non-coffee drinkers, reducing deaths by 14% in those drinking 8 cups a day. When limited to cancer and cardiovascular deaths, coffee drinking was protective although to a lesser degree. Ground coffee drinkers showed the most significant effect, followed by instant and decaffeinated. Individuals with the genetic “profile” representing faster caffeine metabolism drank more coffee Irrespective of the genetic “profile” coffee conferred a survival advantage. How quickly you metabolized, caffeine made no difference. The exact effect of caffeine by itself seems problematic since the same trends in reducing mortality, albeit to a lesser degree, was true for those who drank decaffeinated coffee. The study joins the growing unclear literature on the impact of coffee on our health. But it shows that our search for answers is shifting focus, from merely the amount of coffee ingested to the genetics underlying our true biologic exposure – after all, those with slower caffeine metabolisms have it hanging around for more extended periods of time. It also serves as an introduction to the term Mendelian randomization, that according to Google’s Ngram [2] appeared in about 1975, but whose use increased 63-fold by 2008. added: Mendelian randomization: "...a method for obtaining unbiased estimates of the effects of a putative causal variable without conducting a traditional randomised trial..." Conclusions and Relevance: Coffee drinking was inversely associated with mortality, including among those drinking 8 or more cups per day and those with genetic polymorphisms indicating slower or faster caffeine metabolism. These findings suggest the importance of noncaffeine constituents in the coffee-mortality association and provide further reassurance that coffee drinking can be a part of a healthy diet.

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  22. Re: drink up! by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

    the headline and article concluded that - not the study...big difference. but the gist is correct, drink coffee live longer. exercise live longer. drink more water live longer.

    I agree they showed drinking coffee correlates with living longer. They haven't shown it is a cause. That case could be strengthened by a study which determines if there are other known lifestyle differences that also correlate with coffee drinking and then normalize with that data.

  23. Decaffeinated coffee is NOT caffeine-free coffee. by denzacar · · Score: 2

    The exact effect of caffeine by itself seems problematic since the same trends in reducing mortality, albeit to a lesser degree, was true for those who drank decaffeinated coffee.

    Not really.

    Decaffeinated coffee is NOT caffeine-free coffee. Often it's not even really decaffeinated.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    A controlled study of ten samples of prepared decaffeinated coffee from coffee shops showed that some caffeine remained.[1]
    Fourteen to twenty cups of such decaffeinated coffee would contain as much caffeine as one cup of regular coffee.[1]
    The 16-ounce (473-ml) cups of coffee samples contained caffeine in the range of 8.6 mg to 13.9 mg.
    In another study of popular brands of decaf coffees, the caffeine content varied from 3 mg to 32 mg.[18]
    An 8-ounce (237-ml) cup of regular coffee contains 95-200 mg of caffeine,[19] and a 12-ounce (355-milliliter) serving of Coca-Cola contains 36 mg.[20]

    Both of these studies tested the caffeine content of store-brewed coffee, suggesting that the caffeine may be residual from the normal coffee served rather than poorly decaffeinated coffee.

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