The EU's Controversial Copyright Law Has Been Rejected -- For Now (bbc.com)
Members of the European Parliament have voted to reject a controversial copyright law in its current form, deciding to return to the issue in September. From a report: The law would have put a greater responsibility on individual websites to check for copyright infringements. But the web's inventor Sir Tim Berners-Lee and others had expressed concerns about the proposed rules, which they said threatened internet freedom. Opponents greeted the decision as a victory. Julia Reda, a Pirate Party MEP who had campaigned against the legislation tweeted: "Great success: Your protests have worked! The European Parliament has sent the copyright law back to the drawing board." BPI Music, which represents UK record labels, had supported the bill and tweeted: "We respect the decision... we will work with MEPs over the next weeks to explain how the proposed directive will benefit not just European creativity, but also internet users and the technology sector."
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Lies, damned lies, and the public statements by the assholes in the copyright cartels.
This will benefit nobody but the copyright people, and greatly harm everyone else.
So much bullshit.
Itâ(TM)s amazing how backwards the copyright laws are and the push from the music, movie and tech industries to make them worse. Twenty years top on the copyright, vetted take down notices, fixed royalty prices at time of filing and there shoukd be a use it or lose it clause too.
How will it benefit internet users?
Well, it will make our executives a lot of money, and those executives use the Internet, so it benefits internet users.
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The law would have put a greater responsibility on individual websites to check for copyright infringements.
Rather a substantial understatement there...
Opponents greeted the decision as a victory. Julia Reda, a Pirate Party MEP who had campaigned against the legislation tweeted: "Great success: Your protests have worked!
You know calling yourself the "Pirate Party" doesn't really boost your credibility when it comes to issues like copyright infringement. I'm not saying they are wrong but the optics of it aren't super helpful to those who are less invested in the issue - namely most of the general public.
"We respect the decision... we will work with MEPs over the next weeks to explain how the proposed directive will benefit not just European creativity, but also internet users and the technology sector."
Translation: "If it wasn't for those meddling kids we would have gotten away with it too!"
Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the lawyers of war!
It is much better in the original Klingon, but the BMI Ferengi won't stoop to speaking in Klingon.
Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
is particularly galling because it attacks the very nature of the web pages and it's moronic in that the sites being linked to are already receiving a benefit in being linked to (potentially driving clicks to their site)
put another way, this would harm those sites more than help them because the response would be no more links to their sites, so they wouldn't get the payment they want anyway and now they wouldn't even get the additional click throughs either
it would also be a huge boon for fake news trolls because now they don't even have to put in the minimal effort to link to some other page, they can just post total rubbish on social media without even dubious sourcing
Fuckoof and wait till Brexit is complete and start your 1984 wet dream over there.
I said it before and I will say it again. What we should do is exchange England and Wales with Canada. Europe keeps Scotland and N-Ireland and gets Canada and Northern America will get England and Wales and can build their own paradise. (probably without any gambling or hookers. Sorry, not sorry)
It would be much easier to build the wall and the whole world will be paying the Mexicans to build it. After that we can start filling it with the extra water they cause by the melting of the icebergs.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
So are all lobbiest by that logic. Jimmy Wales didn't bribe anyone though. Your hatred has been recorded along with your ip address, so expect your advertising on your smart devices to reflect this
The good guys need to be lucky every time. The bad guy only needs to be lucky once.
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... wants any part of your failing, debt ridden dictatorship ? Canada is quite happy setting its own policies without being overridden by an unelected foreign political body it has no direct influence over.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
Being on the defensive does NOT work for the long run. Ultimately those who oppose the unfettered expansion of copyright and suppression of rights and privileges we enjoy today need to come up with our own proposal to beat them back. An act that will greatly expand fair use and protect the rest of the world from having to enforce these companies' copyrights: while at the same time balancing the copyright so that they cannot reasonably scream "Unfair" ----- we need a proposal that most of the population would be willing to aggressively pledge their support to, even Musicians, Artists, and other creative people that make the copyrightable works,
So it's gotta be fair ---- but it's gotta be the opposite of these propositions such as "Filtering", or "DMCA-Like" rules that serve to stifle expression and interfere with fair use; We need to put an end to claims against casual Youtubers for "background music",
and for commercial users, limit them to the ability to claim reasonable royalties based on peak simultaneous views highly restricted in maximum value; recognize the right of the people to share transformative creative expressions like Memes, Etc, without the consent of their originator.
The EU copyright filtering proposal came up because POWERFUL players are strongly in favor of a law like this one: these are players who don't believe in any kind of fair use and want automatic INDISCRIMINATE blocking of anything based off their famous material -- that they've often already massively profited from: This is about these players' boundless greed, and these powerful heavily funded players are able to make strongly persuasive proposals to legislators who don't necessarily fully understand the negatives of the proposals; then there's a whole system where these players tap their vast wealth resources to manufacture ARTIFICIAL public support for their propositions ---- they have no qualms against bribing politicians with campaign dollars and hiring partners to write letters from millions of fake people and other acts in their favor that involve paid confederates pretending to be concerned citizens.
The powerful players that want the filtering law are mainly concerned about profits and protecting them -- and they WILL be back with either more proposals, or the same proposal in a same or different forum, with more assets strategically deployed to support proposals in this direction of desired results --- and if Social Media or the World Wide Web or the Internet or something else like that is standing in their way.... they are happy if it gets bulldozed in the process / they'll push ignoring or downplaying the issue at the time of legislation and do whatever is in their power to do what they think protects their profits, even if it side consequences are it DESTROYs massive value for the rest of society and everyone else after the proposal becomes law.
Then your support was never available anyway and not needed. Anyone so easily swayed would never manage to resist propaganda.
"Sir" Tim, the same idiot who gave us such treasures as little-endian hostnames.
It was always argued that the large U.S. based internet companies like Google and Facebook would profit from being able to list snippeds of online press articles in their search results, news aggregations and timelines, and thus they should pay the press publishers for the priviledge to get those snippets. As it turned out, the true priviledge was for the press publishers to be listed, because as soon as Google delisted press publishers demanding payments according to the Ancillary Copyright, their traffic numbers plummeted. So Belgium withdrew the law, and in Germany, all press publishers gave Google a free license (and with lawsuits managed to drive all competing news aggregators out of business).
Now they attempt the same in the whole EU, hoping to get a critical mass large enough to get Google to agree into payments for the little snippets.
They were convinced "better together" but then you turned round and said "Nope, better apart".
"Pirate party" definitely does make a stupid first impression.
In a sound bite obsessed media culture and a lazy electorate that's probably the only impression you are going to get to make. Sad but true. A complex nuanced argument like copyright is going to be won by the best soundbite with the biggest megaphone even if that argument is breathtakingly wrong.
If you obsess over the word "pirate" Then your support was never available anyway and not needed.
It's that sort of idiotic and arrogant attitude that resulted folks like Trump getting elected despite spouting breathtakingly idiotic sound bites. Believe it or not, copyright is pretty far down the list of things most people obsess over so a well placed sound bit or two can make a LOT of difference. They don't give a shit about nuance or abstract concepts. In politics you have to play the game and sound bites are part of the game. Calling themselves "pirates" makes it REALLY easy for the opposition to gain votes among the lazy and credulous who comprise a LOT of the voting public.
Anyone so easily swayed would never manage to resist propaganda.
Evidently you haven't noticed that vast swaths of the voting public fall into that category.
Jimbo Wales is essentially a dictator.
What a fucking retard.
In a sound bite obsessed media culture and a lazy electorate
Please notice the TFA is about the EU.
Although we're undeniably on a downward slope on our side of the Atlantic too,
things haven't devolved to the kind of shit show that they're having in the US.
Yet.
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"This got waaaay too much publicity, and was making us look bad, so we're going to try again later and be more sneaky about it."
The single biggest enemy of the common artist *is* the distributors' privilege industry (as it should be called).
They do nothing but leech on artists, after their business model of offering distribution and a studio dissolved with the rise of the modern WWW and cheap/free professional-grade software.
Now they just try to keep a stranglehold on artists that they trap, and leech as much on them as possible. To finance their traditionally massive cocaine abuse.
I worked in the industry when it all changed. You can ask any exerienced artist what they think of this organized crime of pirates that call others pirates and get called "media industry" wrongly.
Unicode 1.0 is from 1991. Two years before Doom. The original one.
Not acting like politicians act, but like humans act, was one of the key selling points of the PP.
That includes not playing along with choosing politically correct wording.
And facing bullshit terrorist terms like the *actual* criminals calling file sharers "pirates".
Germany' deliberately used its export economy, to suck the rest of the EU dry.
Why do you think they keep adding countries like crazy? There was talk of adding countries like Georgia and others deep in Asia?
The debts of Greece were a deliberate Goldman Sachs job. They "lobbied" (which is another word for what is actually treason, a crime punished by death or 20 years in prison) the Greece government of greedy shitbags to do it and worry later. Now they are off, leaving the blame on the population. Blame fuled by, you guessed it, Goldman Sachs.
So go back to the basement of your Schützenhaus (where the Nazi flags hang), and keep arguing about voting Af(ascist)D, not realizing they are pro EU/TTIP in their party program, ... and how much you failed at life, if an unwashed illiterate from some Afghan mountan cave can take your job and your girlfriend.
I'm German. I have seen both Americans and Afghans immigrate, fall in love with our culture, and enrich it with really nice things. With my own eyes. As oppposed to some "news". So ...
EU parliament used its only real power, which is to reject a directive.That does not happen often, and it is a pity that the only elected institution in EU is mostly unable to push its own legislative projects.
Hi fellow AC! As an outside observer, I'd like you to realise that every claim you just made is incorrect or misleading.
Trump is not popular, neither in the USA nor abroad. Especially abroad, actually, where he is seen as a dangerous buffoon and a morally poor example.
Your economy isn't the worst it's been but you have spectacular debt and every time Trump announces a new shot in his trade wars, the stock market wobbles. China could foreclose on you at any time.
Your supreme court has never had a SJW agenda. Now that the moderate judge has retired, it will, however, be stacked with an ultra-conservative and have an anti-progressive bias. Sad for women and minorities. Good for rich white businessmen, like Trump.
Trump does not listen! He pretends, for the benefit of the gullible: you.
Hillary would have been a fine president. Boring, staid, exactly what you needed. You might have got universal health care. You would have had cleaner air. The rest of the world might not now be utterly sick to death of the constant stream of garbage coming from your way. Yes, it could have been a lot better.