Sydney Airport Launches Face Scan Check-In Trials (techcrunch.com)
The plan to replace passport check-ins with more face scans is being trialed by Quantas on passengers for select flights into the Sydney Airport starting this week. The move is an attempt to replace the "inconvenience" of relying on more traditional paper passports. TechCrunch reports: It's still very early stages in a process that isn't exactly being rolled out overnight. After all, implementing such technology for Sydney's 43 million annual passengers is pretty large undertaking, even without myriad security and privacy concerns to contend with. To start with, the technology will be utilized for select international flights, to help automate check-in, boarding, lounge access and bag drop. Moving forward, the airport also hopes to implement it for mobile check-in and customs processing. "We've worked with Qantas from the outset and are delighted to be partnering with them as we trial this technology," Sydney Airport CEO Geoff Culbert said in a statement provided to the press. "In the future, there will be no more juggling passports and bags at check-in and digging through pockets or smartphones to show your boarding pass," he added. "Your face will be your passport and your boarding pass at every step of the process."
So they can determine when Kim Dotcom arrives asking for political asylum.
Can someone fix the spelling for Qantas?
And before anyone says "u" always comes after "q", it's because it was actually an acronym: Queensland And Northern Territory Ariel Services
Make SELinux enforcing again!
"In the future, there will be no more juggling passports and bags at check-in and digging through pockets or smartphones to show your boarding pass"
This seems like the sort of inconvenience they show you in poorly acted infomercials...
Tired of tipping the bowl of chips over on the couch every time you reach for the remote?
Tired of dropping the bottle on the floor every time you try to pour yourself a drink?
IS THIS YOU?
We have the solution!
Airbus are introducing beds on newer aircrafts. For things like a 4 hour flight its silly but for 12+ hour flights I wouldn't travel any other way.
Make SELinux enforcing again!
AC re "There was no problem with how passports worked."
Some nations had no working passport system. Anyone could "get" paperwork and become an illegal migrant later getting paper work in some other nation.
Random people with a criminal past would buy a fake passport. Documents to create a new passports got shared. People would create a new life in another nation and create an entire new set of paperwork.
An intelligent service of another nation is using a real passport stolen in a nation to do their own missions around the work. Real passport was issued, wrong face going on a holiday.
A new system will scan a face. Has that person been on the web supporting banned groups? Fund raising for banned groups online but presenting a different passport? Does the face match the documents presented to support getting the passport?
Did the person over stay their visa?
Did the person enter and over stay under a different passport?
Use the wrong visa application and then work for years?
Is an illegal migrant who then created a passport now wanting an international holiday?
A person using another persons documents. The face presented in 2018 does not match the locations of that other persons life story used to create an ID and then apply for a new passport.
Later applications can get more people who are trying to get around laws.
A person on government support who wants to go on an international tax payer funded holiday.
A person accepted as a real refugee in need of protection from their nation wants to go back to their own nation for a long holiday again.
A face with no funds, a bank account without the funds to support their travel suddenly has the funds to afford international travel. The face does not match their own banking, work and tax history.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Your face will be your passport and your boarding pass at every step of the process.
Hi, my name is Werner Brandes. My voice is my passport. Verify Me.
Re "Next will be the two-factor mode." AC
Something like and advanced 100 point check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... will be needed to create a passport.
Simple work for another nations security services using a real passport to do missions internationally.
Easy for a criminal and illegal migrant to "create" a life history.
The problem with real time CCTV and a face is the other database lookups in real time.
Its not going to be easy to "create" a new fake person in 2018 to get a new clean passport with no 20 to 60 years of gov, educational, work, health care use, banking interaction, dental visits, car ownership, rail and bus CCTV transport use.
Hard work for an illegal migrant to pay to fill in 10 years of a digital past.
Police images of a person interviewed? Police surveillance photo from the last international holiday under another name in another nation?
Police CCTV was kept at the time? Can a criminal who wants an international holiday under another clean name really know if their face will not alert?
International police cooperation of everyone entering another nation for a holiday going back decades.
Name and face get used too much under very different passport names globally in the 1970? 1980's? 1990's?
An entire back history gets created by a criminal in 2018 as a life story going back decades?
Did they buy their way into every needed database to add in their life of a person going back 20-60 years?
Even pattern matching can find fake created data. A doctor visit once a year on the same date for 20 years? 1 dentist visit? Car ownership copied over from another person that does not fit new random dates created to present as decades of car use?
Education paid for? Open to payments? No payments ever made? The job that had to pay back for that university? Pay tax every year but the locations don't match the medical and later educational payments?
Why stop at the person, start to look at others 2 hops around that created passport?
Same locations? Same tax? Same history? Do they exist other than names and the needed data for that created passport?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
"Welcome to Creepy Airlines, formally known as Crying Baby Airlines."
Table-ized A.I.
Correction, "formerly known as"
Table-ized A.I.
The history will, of course, be in blockchain.
What would a stupid service do, then?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
The correct accent that fits the domestic details given to get the passport when the government calls back on the phone is a good start.
Be ready to confirm a needed identity at any time on the provided phone number.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
There was no problem with how passports worked.
Never had a passport, or used one to travel, I see.
Having to juggle documents when traveling is a problem. People forget which pocket their boarding pass is in. They stand in line watching everyone else show a boarding pass to get on, and then start searching for theirs when they get to the front of the line.
I carry mine in my pocket when I'm abroad, just so I always have ID with me. Problem: they absorb water when you sweat, start to become unreadable. Before I started solving the problem by carrying it in a plastic bag, I was on one trip where I was concerned that it wouldn't be readable enough to get back into the US. That would be a problem, no? Not for you, of course.
It will have problems with false positives and there will be issues which never happened when the old system of using passports was in place.
Of course. Every system has problems. Different systems have different problems. Your comment is "do'h", Captain Obvious.
The question is, will there be fewer problems or a reduction of existing problems with the new system? If this system results in faster processing and less paperwork for 95% of the passenger traffic, and requires a fallback to the old passport system for only 5%, then it is a win for the entire system. Those 5% who still need to show a passport or boarding pass will get through the process FASTER than before, because the other 95% will be processed much faster and won't hold up the lines.
I guess Australians like the taste of fascist boot soles.
What an asinine comment. Facial recognition software at an airport is hardly a violation of privacy or fascism or anything of the kind. An airport is already one of the most video-active places on the planet. It is also one of the most IDd places. For example, explain to me the difference between getting to the ID check at security and smiling into a camera to be identified, versus showing my passport and boarding pass. Both cases put an identifiable ME at that point at that time. Ditto for the check-in at the ticket counter. Ditto for the boarding gate.