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In World First, Danish Court Rules Stream-Ripping Site Illegal

An anonymous reader shares a report: Convert2MP3 is a site that allows users to download audio from platforms including YouTube. Following legal action carried out by Rights Alliance on behalf of music industry group IFPI, Convert2MP3 has been declared unlawful by a Danish court which has now ordered ISPs to block it. It's the first time worldwide that a so-called stream-ripping site has been declared illegal.

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Funny

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  2. Weird by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    Is that a final decision, or an appeal is on the way? Also the "alliance" doesn't attack the source directly [ youtube ] but some indirect folks that just press the available oranges and give users some juice ... weird. Did that alliance assess how much good youtube does to them, by popularizing so many new songs (and remind people of older ones) that would otherwise remain in the dark forever?

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    1. Re:Weird by elgaard · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is from the Frederiksberg court.
      It is not final. But most likely the alliance won because the people behind Convert2mp3 did not bother to show up in a Danish court. And they probable also will not appeal. The transcripts from the court is not made public yet as far is I know.

  3. Stream ripping = home taping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Can't plug the analog hole.

  4. Filled with Jelly = Not Serious by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    >> Danish Court

    How does one take a judge or jury filled with jelly seriously?

    1. Re:Filled with Jelly = Not Serious by SCVonSteroids · · Score: 1

      Oh you...

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    2. Re:Filled with Jelly = Not Serious by avandesande · · Score: 1

      They didn't take blancmanges seriously either until they won Wimbledon!

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  5. Surprised it took this long by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised it took this long. With all the clout record companies have, I'm surprised it took them this long to find a country to make this illegal in. The surprise here, isnt' that it is illegal somewhere. The surprise is it took this long TO BE illegal somewhere.

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  6. Re:That's a good thing by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Funny

    The other day I was in San Jose as a tourist and took a bus. A rather large fellow sitting next to me asked me if he could "rip a stream" and before I knew it, he lifted a leg and I had to change buses immediately.

    Sorry, I wondered why you left!

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  8. Re:Conversion not allowed in my country since a mo by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

    Why not just use youtube-dl like everyone else?

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  9. Audacity by WinstonWolfIT · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's trivial to do this locally using Audacity. Send the output through the sound chip and save when done.

    1. Re:Audacity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      your grandfather most likely know how to use a tape recorder pretty much same thing

    2. Re:Audacity by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      If he knows how to use the ripping sites, audacity shouldn't be much more difficult

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    3. Re:Audacity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I usually split off the aac from the mp4 that youtube deliberately places onto my computer.

      But I suppose yours adds an extra layer to the already bloated pile of realities that factually defy the various mafiAA fictions.

  10. Home Taping Is Killing Music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That was the music industry's campaign slogan int the 80s. They failed to kill home taping* and despite home taping continuing well into the 90s, they enjoyed their most commercially successful decades ever.

    *) Home taping was the practice of recording music streams (from the radio, to music cassettes).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music

  11. Let's see.. by Dwedit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's see... We have a web service that grabs copyrighted material from a third-party website, then distributes a mechanically-derived work of that copyrighted material... Sounds about right.

    Needs to be client-side to avoid the step of redistribution.

    1. Re:Let's see.. by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Let's see... We have a web service that grabs copyrighted material from a third-party website, then distributes a mechanically-derived work of that copyrighted material... Sounds about right.

      Needs to be client-side to avoid the step of redistribution.

      What if you package it as a "cloud" program?

      Is MS on the hook if I paste a Disney character into a Word doc, using their cloud version of Office?

    2. Re:Let's see.. by OhPlz · · Score: 1

      Google Translate does the same thing.

    3. Re:Let's see.. by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      MS need not fear accusations of infringement, but for the same reason that The Biggest Pirate Ever doesn't worry about it.

      Hint: TBPE is the world's most popular video site

      Seriously though, someone answer the question. I'm willing to accept that only a local, client-side processor is valid, but then MS is the one who performed the operation above.

      Texas Board of Professional Engineers?

  12. Re:Conversion not allowed in my country since a mo by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Not all the dl apps work on all the clips as expected.

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  13. Re:Conversion not allowed in my country since a mo by houghi · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just download one of the many rippers available. For Linux there is youtube-dl
    And here is the code you can use:
    youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format mp3

    Most ripping sites where just a shell arround youtube-dl anyway and as such limited the program to just a few options.

    As you now have the source, you will be able to build your own website that does the same. With little ingenuity, you can have a bookmark in your browser and when you click it when you are on YouTube, it will start downloading to the directory of your choice.

    Editing of MP3 can then be done with any MP3 editing program you desire,

    You are on /. Behave like it. Now get of my lawn.

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  14. For those that disagree by houghi · · Score: 2

    You canb take action now. You are on /. so you have some Internet knowledge.

    Build a website around https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/. Not that hard to do. Should be up and running in around an hour.

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  15. Re:Jurisdiction by Calydor · · Score: 1

    Nowhere in the summary or article does it say world wide, it says world FIRST.

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  16. Things never change by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

    Sites like YouTube, which offer millions of copies of almost every song imaginable, are now an unwitting player in the piracy ecosystem. Every day, countless people use special tools to extract music from video tracks before storing them on their local machines.

    So, people are still taping FM radio, huh?

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  17. Re:Jurisdiction by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

    Ah yes progressive Europe, where memes were almost made illegal due to copyright filters.

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  18. Having the cake and eating it too by Misagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Meanwhile, Denmark has its "båndkopi" (tape copy) fee on practically all storage media -- whether it is being used for music or not -- to compensate for copying.
    The collected money is distributed to a select number of rights holders through some scheme by the industry organisation Copydan.

    The "båndkopi" fee was created once upon a time because the music industry complained that people could copy music to tapes from records and the radio ...
    And now that Youtube and other streaming services are basically serving the same function that radio did, things are different?

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    1. Re:Having the cake and eating it too by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Informative

      We got the same. In any other context something like this would be illegal. You're paying a fee on every medium, but at the same time copying anything that says that it has a copy protection (needn't even have one, just claiming to have one is enough) means you must not copy it.

      Now tell me, what kind of content am I supposed to put on the medium that I just paid for to be allowed to put content on that I'm not allowed to put on.

      Dear content industry: Go and die a quick and preferably painful, but I'd settle for just quick, death. Nobody needs you anymore. You're, essentially, a useless sponge on society in general and creative creators in particular. The faster you cease to exist, the better for all of us.

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    2. Re:Having the cake and eating it too by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Then what is it for? And please don't give me the "to compensate for losses due to copies", how can you possibly justify blanket punishment of everyone for a crime a handful of people commit? Do you get to pay a "robbery fee" on guns now? Is there a "getaway car tax" on new vehicles? Or how about all men paying a "rapist victim compensation" for having the relevant equipment?

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  19. Re:Conversion not allowed in my country since a mo by BlueStrat · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ah, but the SGAE in Spain does not really want to forbid things. They want to be able to extort money from everybody.

    Nobody expects the Spanish Requisition!

    Strat

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  20. Re:Which should surprise nobody ... by butchersong · · Score: 1

    That makes things a bit clearer. Thanks.

  21. GOOD - get rid of these sites by gosand · · Score: 1

    These sites should be blocked, they are too high profile and obvious.
    There are plenty of other solutions to download and convert locally, and they can do their business in peace.

    p.s. 10 more conversions sites just popped up to take the place of Convert2MP3.

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  22. Re:Conversion not allowed in my country since a mo by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    An example, please?

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  23. Re:Conversion not allowed in my country since a mo by dinfinity · · Score: 1

    Yep. Exists on Windows as well:
    https://chocolatey.org/package...

    (Chocolatey is a godsend, btw)

  24. Re:That's a good thing by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    Fattist.

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  25. Re:Leeching? You mean like what copyright literall by omnichad · · Score: 1

    You can self-distribute. It's easier than ever. But access to a good advertising budget is mutually beneficial for the distributor and content creator in most cases. Is not much different than a VC investing in a startup. They're doing nothing creative, but taking the majority of the financial risk - and then get the majority of the financial reward. The startup would likely never have made money at all without help to stay afloat.