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Chinese Scientists Have Developed the World's First Destructive Laser Rifle (popsci.com)
PopularScience: Chinese scientists have developed the world's first destructive, man-portable laser weapon. However, there is more to the story of this cool looking, but "less than lethal" directed energy device. The laser rifle is the ZKZM-500, developed by Xian Institute of Optics and Precision Mechanics in Xian, Shaanxi. It's manufactured by the Institute's subsidiary, ZKZM Laser. Weighing at 6 pounds (about the weight of a typical assault rifle), the ZKZM-500 has a range of 2,600 feet. The ZKZM-500 uses a lithium battery with enough power for 1000 two second shots (keep in mind, those 1000 shots may not be at full power). According to Institute designers, its laser is powerful enough to instantly scar human skin and tissue. It can also ignite clothing, knock a small drone out of the sky, or even ignite a fuel tank. That would place its power output around 100-500 watts (most surgical lasers top out at 100 watts).
Defeated by a simple mirror.
screen shots?
http://www.wickedlasers.com/
Seriously?!
Is it attachable to sharks yet? If not, why?
when they get up to the 40 watt phased plasma rifles.
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. The laser rifle is the ZKZM-500, developed by Xian Institute of Optics and Precision Mechanics in Xian, Shaanxi. It's manufactured by the Institute's subsidiary, ZKZM Laser.
While I congratulate the Chinese, I can almost guarantee that some country (which you all know very well), is going to scream: -
"That's our IP", "Why do the Chinese steal our IP?"
But the Chinese will borrow a leaf from their Russian friends and will retort, "the dogs bark, but the caravan goes on."
Congratulations to those Chinese, from one Slashdotter here.
these are 10-15W Max portable lasers, this thing is probably 100-500W.
You can buy solid state lasers with 15-20 W output on Chinese sites that run on 12v, most laser engravers have that kind of power.
https://www.banggood.com/445-450nm-15W-Blue-Laser-Module-Mark-On-Metal-for-DIY-Laser-Engraver-Machine-p-1137779.html?rmmds=search&stayold=1&cur_warehouse=CN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzUoe-9bKa0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdURyWZD9tk
any optics nerds can confirm?
But you can't dodge a bullet, or tunafish. Maybe you get lucky. Once. Only the lucky ones.
How can people take seriously such improbable bovine manure ? Very clumsy propaganda. What's next , The Gaher 313 on slashdot ? It is not even funny.
Ignite clothing, cause scars, burn and char flesh, instantly permanently blind eyes, and so on, and so forth.
This weapon is much worse than simple killing; I'd say it's a complete flouting of the rules of war. Nice job making it, scientists, but much like the atom bomb, now we have a lasting problem on our hands.
Under the âoeProtocol IV on Blinding Laser Weapons, of the 1980 Convention on Certain Conventional Weaponsâ these are illegal to use against humans.
So... nice to have and make drawings in the sand with... I guess
"enough to instantly scar human skin and tissue" very effective against "model armies" - if you know what I mean ;)
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All we need to do now is train the sharks
The original video since the Popsci article doesn't care to provide a link:
https://www.scmp.com/video/offbeat/2153779/chinese-star-wars-laser-weapon-appears-set-fire-objects-distance
It's made from Chinesium, meaning it'll break after two shots.
If the US were to steal the designs and market them to the rest of the world?
Yet another Chinese BULL SHIT
What are you congratulating them for? You do realize this didn't actually happen did you? People are so gullible. Maybe Trump is right about "Fake News".
Fortunately laser rifles are exceptionally effective against straw men.
There is no independent confirmation of the existence of this rifle. Absolutely none.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
One of the ways of modern open war is not to kill enemy soldiers but to injure them in a way which demands even more resources from the opponent. A laser gun able to blind opponents is very useful. Give it a really good optical targeting assist to support massive range and a high rate of fire and you have a really good open field weapon.
in ~1955 the US military experimented with backpack fed man-portable lasers. they could blind and burn at several miles. damage equipment and ignite ammunition. but were deemed far too power hungry, heavy, inefficient, etc for use.
soon everyone will have them.
The real challenge for military planners is not handheld laser weapons but ground and plane based laser weapons. It isnâ(TM)t necessary for a laser weapon to destroy a plane or a ship. It only needs to take out the external elements of targeting and defensive systems leaving it vulnerable to conventional attack. An Aegis combat system will protect an aircraft carrier against a cruise missile. Chinese and American military planners understands that without a working Aegis system an aircraft carrier is nothing but a large and slow moving target. Laser weapons are a game changer in that situation
Perhaps we are all missing the true end use for these lasers.
Maybe their intended use is to blind night vision devices and infrared cameras.
I read that the Chinese were using lasers to prevent pilots from getting near their bases and the island that they built in the South China Sea.
Perhaps this is an extension of that use.
It is prohibited to employ laser weapons specifically designed, as their sole combat function or as one of their combat functions, to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision, that is to the naked eye or to the eye with corrective eyesight devices. The High Contracting Parties shall not transfer such weapons to any State or non-State entity.
You can see lasers with the right optics...just follow the source and take them out. Second, a 2 second burst is very impractical...do you know how hard it is to keep a dot on anything moving that is 2600 feet away...even breathing will cause the dot to move several feet. Ever wonder why snipers are laying down, with a tri-pod, have controlled breathing, and other tactics to keep the dot on point for a split second.
They hooked up one of these to a laptop battery and some capacitors, with a switch as a trigger:
https://www.alibaba.com/produc...
My Other Computer Is A Data General Nova III.
FTA: "The ZKZM-500 has plenty of Chinese predecessors in directed energy weapons. Chinese police and soldiers have long been equipped with 'dazzler' laser rifles. These include PY132A, WGJ-2002 and BBQ-905, which are designed to target the optical imagers and sensors on enemy vehicles, aircraft and drones (since China's signed the United Nations Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons, which bans the use of laser weapons that cause permanent damage to human eyes)."
China has signed the United Nations Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons, which bans the use of laser weapons that cause permanent damage to human eyes.
- The laser module - sure it exists but it is going to be big and need water cooling if it's going to be of any use
- The weight - the module itself for a 500W laser comes in ~5kg. Even if they somehow got the module to fit in the 6kg they claim it weighs, the batteries and watercooling will pack on an additional 6-10kg.
- The power requirements ~0.3 kWh (not accounting for losses from water cooling and other gear), that requires a small motorcycle battery, even if made from Lithium, not something you easily carry around in a 6kg package.
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This fake story again?
I thought laser weapons were among the forbidden weapon categories. Is China not a signatory to the Geneva Protocols?
A video of people on a rooftop allegedly setting stuff on fire with a laser proves precisely nothing. Even if a laser is being used, there's zero indication that it is the handheld device that's emitting it.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Although China has signed the UN convention on not producing weapons "intended to blind", I'm guessing that means "as their primary function", since all bigger lasers (included ones fielded by the USA) can burn through solids, so can sure toast your retina in a heartbeat.
These smaller "rifles" would be useless against a well-equipped conventional military force; while you're trying to burn them somewhere (at a 100 yards) they've already shot your balls off at 150...
it has been demonstrated, so, no, you are simply making up fake news, like your fuehrer.
The Falklands war had some reports of that too. Low-flying Argentinian pilots on the correct approach path at the correct speed in suddenly failed mid flight.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
China rarely honors treaties, even those that they sign.
In fact, many nations ignore treaties when it is in their advantage. W and Putin are good examples of that.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
so what? China does not honor any treaty.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Why are chinese scientists designing stuff instead of doing science? Are they bored or what? They'd better let it to the professionals: engineers.
A lot of the disadvantages of these go away if there is no air in the way. Could this be a reaction to the "Space Force" announcements?
I'm just thinking the space battle in Moonraker... If all you need to do is to poke a small hole in someones suit...
With an energy rating of 100-500w, the direct hit isn't the only hazard. I used to be a laser safety officer at my employer and a laser of that energy level is a class IV laser, whose beam is hazardous in close proximity. Even if you're not in the direct path, the radiation emitted by a laser beam of that power is hazardous.
Fire that puppy 1000 times and you've absorbed enough radiation that is unhealthy.
Eternity: will that be smoking, or non-smoking? I Corinthians 6:9-10
OH GOD MY EYES!
That's why these people made a laser rifle. The rifling causes the photons to have a twisting polarity, which allows them to drill through reflective surfaces.
"Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
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Try 5 years ago Americans already had one made and operational.
China did not make the worlds first destructive laser rifle. Not even fucking close.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
You can have my Laser Rifle when you can pry it from my cold dead hands!
Well, not a country, just the fake president of a country.
I wish I had mod points for you.
A racist is literally a person who thinks there is such a thing as races. Nothing more, nothing less. ...They were literally created by the proponents of eugenics and racism. They didn’t exist before the 18th century!)
Despite the lack of scientific evidence that the scientific community noticed, nearly 100 years ago. The genetic differences are just way too small, to warrant such a concept. (And if you are thinking "But there are dog races!"
Apart from the very very dumb and clueless, ignored by only two groups on the planet: The Nazis, and it appears the Americans.
So, dear Americans: Whether you're pro racism or against it: Stop talking about "race" as if it is a real thing. Every single one of you is a racist, and nobody seems to even know what that word means.
Sincerely,
a German.
How could you forget Trump?
Tell it to Trump.
pyrofoam on youtube debunked the shit out of that laser.
it's worth a look at.
basically it came down to
1 the wavelength would be ineffective on flesh and clothing
2 the power requirements vs weight were all wrong.
also this is a Chinese company not the Chinese military
Germany was once called "land of the poets and thinkers".
That description came up at a time when the UK had full "copyright" laws, while Germany had none such thing. As a result, German creativity spiked, while the UK one was nearly dead.
All because some cokeheaded publishers (not creatives! never creatives!) decided they could steal ALL the money from the actual creatives and from their fans, by sitting in-between, and leeching off all the money. That was possible, because back then, there was no Internet, and creatives needed somebody to distribute their works. So the publishers blatantly made up the concept that you could "own" mere ideas, information, data ... And that the creatives needed to give them that "ownership" in order to get the "privilege" to be distributed by them. They lobbied (which still was literal treason and punished with 20 years of prison if found out back then) the government to grant them an exclusive monopoly on this made-up "good", to stifle its naturally infinite abundance, to raise its worth from zero to as much as they could squeeze out. Giving as little as humanly possible to the creatives, while acting like the whole thing protects creatives! (At the time when Napster arrived, I worked in the music industry, and the actual artists got about 3.5%... when they were a big artist... from which said artist still had to pay studio expenses. The "producer"... who did nothing special that the artist couldn't do, but snort shitloads of cocaine all day, got a whopping 60% of that CD price! ... This has massively changed in favor of artists since file sharing got big. So much for "protecting artists".)
This is the sole and only purpose of the concept of "I.P." ... A concept that literally incompatible with the laws of physics (specifically, causality).
To steal money, and not work for it. While calling anyone who doesn't let them steal, is ironically called a "thief".
So the Chinese, like me, don't give a fuck about your leech vulture capitalist crime scheme, and say "If all you give me, is a mere COPY of the RESULT of somebody ELSE's hard work... Then all you will ever going to get, is also a mere COPY of the RESULT of somebody else's hard work!"
Notice the EXTREMELY IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE between the actual work, which is worth money, and the mere COPY which is worth just as much as it took work to make the copy. Which is usually very very close to absolute zero!
Oh, and by the way: Only 10 years ago, morons who were pro "I.P." were still laughed out of Slashdot. Nowatays, even this former bastion of tech clue, seems to have been fully brainwashed.
Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.
Totally correct, but they are basing the "rifle" due to size and configuration of the weapon instead of a physical component like riflings.
;)
Though scientists have figured out how to put spin on a laser (or at least the photons, I forget the details of the article).
Though I don't have any mod points today, you sir/madam/whatever totally deserve them
Well, you chose him, so he's yours.
And it uses a perpetual motion machine to power it!
Beware of Sales Reps bearing gifts.
The US have heavily tested laser weapons already and for the most part they aren't practical compared to conventional weapons in most cases. This is one of those cool Sci-Fi ideas that doesn't pan out. The problem is most lasers aren't very efficient and the ones that are (chemical lasers) use stuff so nasty they'd be deadly to the soldier carrying it if it burst or broke. Not to mention rain or dust or hazy day would reduce its effectiveness. It's probably a concept weapon that can give you a burn or blind but compare that to oh getting hit by a 50 cal round which would blow parts off you. It's likely a test concept weapon for experimenting but I highly doubt it'll ever come into widespread use.
Wrong. The electoral college chose him.
So is running over people with tanks, but that's never stopped China in the past.
I'll take one in the 40 watt range
How will the enemy deend themselfves against laser rifles? Wrap themelves in tin foil or carry mirrors?
Let's assume bad ass laser rifles become the military's standard issue rifles.
So we gonna use laser tracers to make em visible (ha), or will soldiers need to wear special goggles to see the lasers?
Or will an intelligence source analyze the battlefield and relay info to the soldiers?
Will next-gen soldier armor rely on cutting edge insulation w/ crazy high r-values? Maybe we'll go back to full suits of armor. And if we're there, we might as well integrate powered exoskeletons. Maybe we'll just move onto mechs.
And if we have mechs, and we can develop secure quantum data transmission, we have take pilots out of the mechs.
Of course battery tech will have to advance by crazy leaps and bounds, too. (and hyper-capacity batteries will have a transformative effect on society)
This gonna be cool.
The supposed use will be as a less-than-lethal weapon for applications like crowd control.
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Sounds to me that you just wanted to make a veiled racist comment about how the Chinese do nothing but steal IP. Guess they're too stupid to make up thier own inventions, amirite?
#notallchanks
I'm so sick of that site, for over 5 years they've done Geo IP redirection, ensuring if I click their links, I'll be just redirected to the front page of their Aussie web site.
It's some antique internet rubbish. I've even emailed them, it's moronic.
Can I put a hit out on their site here? Can someone please take them out?
...or are they just pretending they did? Kind of like the guy who tried to patent an engine for faster than light travel.
"But the Chinese will borrow a leaf from their Russian friends and will retort, "the dogs bark, but the caravan goes on."
And this is exactly why -- or one reason why anyway -- trade sanctions are being imposed.
"Free" trade only works if both sides respect the other's laws. China does not.
In fact they very sneakily impose trade sanctions in almost invisible ways... like not putting a tariff on imports of Product X but then issuing a government mandate that anyone in China who needs a Product X must buy it from a Chinese supplier.
The screams that Trump is starting a "trade war" are ridiculous. China has been conducting trade war against the US for decades, and past Presidents just bent over for it.
No more.
In honour?
...is coming true
In honour ?
I like how Oriental racism towards white people is so much nicer and civilized than white people's racism towards Orientals. It's refreshing. I'm serious.
HAHAHAHA +100000 funny
Pew pew pew
No.
People chose him over the rabid Clinton.
Yeah, there's some spin on this, all right, but I don't think it's the photons.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I guess we found out who is using all that efficient coolant.
If they are rifles, how do they get the laser to spin? Are the barrels really rifled? I guess it sounds better than "laser gun"