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NetBSD 8.0 Released (netbsd.org)
Slashdot reader fisted quotes NetBSD.org: The NetBSD Project is pleased to announce NetBSD 8.0, the sixteenth major release of the NetBSD operating system.
This release brings stability improvements, hundreds of bug fixes, and many new features. Some highlights of the NetBSD 8.0 release are:
— USB stack rework, USB3 support added.
— In-kernel audio mixer (audio_system(9)).
— Reproducible builds
— PaX MPROTECT (W^X) memory protection enforced by default
— PaX ASLR enabled by default
— Position independent executables by default
[...]
NetBSD is free. All of the code is under non-restrictive licenses, and may be used without paying royalties to anyone.
This release brings stability improvements, hundreds of bug fixes, and many new features. Some highlights of the NetBSD 8.0 release are:
— USB stack rework, USB3 support added.
— In-kernel audio mixer (audio_system(9)).
— Reproducible builds
— PaX MPROTECT (W^X) memory protection enforced by default
— PaX ASLR enabled by default
— Position independent executables by default
[...]
NetBSD is free. All of the code is under non-restrictive licenses, and may be used without paying royalties to anyone.
I remember using NetBSD and FreeBSD back in the day for my first web servers. Good stuff. The only thing I use it for now is my NAS.
Nothing at all wrong with NetBSD. Runs on about everything. Been using it off and on since 1998. I prefer OpenBSD because it works better on laptops generally and has pf as a native program, but NetBSD is outstanding for embedded work and actually ran and runs some stuff for the space program. A phenomenal OS for small stuff.
I ran it forever in the 1990s and into the late 2000s. Super stable and it's so nice having a bare OS adding in only the things you need.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
So soon? I mean the ink is barely dry on the papers. And it's only 2008. Can you imagine what NetBSD will be 10 years from now?
I continue to be impressed by NetBSD's multiplatform support. Even as Linux has retreated from older architectures, NetBSD keeps support alive.
...a Beowulf cluster of NetBSD 8.0s running?
I was curious since I'd never heard of this problem before (or even had a clue of what the problem was about). I was led to this blog post, which is quite interesting. The issue is having the same source tree always build an identical cdrom. On the surface it sounds simple, but a surprising amount of work was needed to make it happen, all detailed in the blog post. I can't help but admire the obsessive perfectionism that won't leave the problem alone until it is completely resolved.
plz I want to HOST ur poz dick in my neg ass, give me all the bugs...apk
Stop posting spam about your software. Your post has nothing to do with the topic of this article, which is the release of NetBSD 8.0. You deserve to be modded down. Spam like this is a big part of why you have so many problems with other users of this site. Also, I don't see any reason why you couldn't already run your software on NetBSD and FreeBSD, since they have Linux binary compatibility. OpenBSD used to as well, though I don't believe it does any longer. Also, if you really want your software to be used by BSD users, you'd be better off releasing it as an open source tool and maintaining it in the ports collection.
Also, there are open source alternatives to your software such as Steven Black's hosts file software that seems to do exactly the same thing your software does. Also, Steven Black's software is written in Python and is cross-platform, so there's no need to maintain separate versions for Windows, Linux, and MacOS. The documentation suggests that software could run provide the same functionality on iOS and Android. It could run on *BSD right now without any difficulty. The fact that this software is cross-platform and open source seems to provide substantial advantages over yours.
A hosts-based blacklist may be a useful component for securing a system, including a *BSD system. However, there are high-quality, open source, cross-platform solutions that already exist. If you want to implement a hosts-based blacklist on *BSD, I suggest taking a look at the software I linked to.
NetBSD just received USB 3.0 support just now?
I had to check that. FreeBSD has had it since 2011.
Kriston
well if I had my druthers id buttfuck both your brothers, then id grab your sister, take her out back and fist her, go down on ur mama and start a whole lot of drama, save your dad for last so I can eat out his ass
A hosts-based blacklist may be a useful component for securing a system, including a *BSD system by FEARING ME HIDING UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 21, 2018 @10:07PM (#56987868)
See subject & that quote from you CROSS-EYED MARY (lol) https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (i.e. ADVERTISER or WEBMASTER you obviously are - the BIGGEST whores).
* :)
(... & you KNOW it...)
So go on now - use those "downmodpoints" you FARM via MANY sockpuppets (which you're HIDING now as to the reason why in part - other part's I've TORN YOU UP before under those sockpuppets & have it bookmarked to toss @ ya (you know it too, hence the UNIDENTIFIABLE ac 'hiding' you do now, FOOL)).
I'll just RUN YOU DRY of them inevitably dimwit - so don't think "your kind" (weezils) can EVER "order me" - you're MY bitch, MARY.... lol!
APK
P.S.=> Commercial bs is FULL of overheads & slowdown + security issues - a native method in hosts I do, & on a PROVEN for what? 45++ yrs. IP stack?? Isn't + it's TRULY FREE... apk
its swirly time, bitch!!!
A hosts-based blacklist may be a useful component for securing a system, including a *BSD system by FEARING ME HIDING UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 21, 2018 @10:07PM (#56987868)
See subject: I never EVER said "every" (that's ongoing) so cut THAT crap right away (putting words in my mouth I never say is typical of "your kind" MARY (Cross Eyed MARY)).
My Win32/64 version produced PERFECT results (the pledge). The Linux version does also (just WAY FASTER & more EFFICIENTLY) - the "turn"... The PRESTIGE will be the BSD version (& MacOS X by osmosis pretty much).
* GET IT?
APK
P.S.=> See the film "The Prestige" (while you're trolling me? I'm BUILDING "Angiers' Machines"...) apk
does your diaper need a change?
See subject: Do-NOTHING dork "ne'er-do-wells" like YOU? All HOT air, not a damn thing to show for yourselves. Me? Read https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... I've done better on *NIX... that's the cool part (for me, not YOU & your chatterbox hotairware zero kind (lmao)).
HOW ABOUT YOU "MARY" (Cross-Eyed Mary, lol)?
APK
P.S.=> I'll answer that PURELY rhetorical question for you (since I always lmao @ U & "your kind" HIDING from me STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts OR hiding behind FAKE NAMES for your FAKE LIES of 'so-called' WASTED do zero lives, lol - & you KNOW it (prove otherwise))... apk
Normally, I don't respond to ACs, but...it just so happens that in the late '90s/early '00s, I was working at Intel and attended a Linux Summit at the mothership.
ESR, Linus Himself, etc. were there and I had the chance to talk with Linus at the end of the talks and we discussed this very issue.
I posited that the GPL license, which "forces" changes to be available vs the BSD license which "allows" changes to be available, would - ultimately - cause the Linux ecosystem to grow more rapidly than the BSD side.
He disagreed, but with no vehemence, and I suspect that he somewhat agreed, but didn't want to push that aspect of it.
He and ESR both gave really compelling talks - great experience!
Game theory explains why Linux and the GPL have flourished among corporations and institutions. It really is the optimal solution among a complex system involving many players over a commodity.. It is enlightened self interest. Free Software is a wonderful example of game theory in practice.
Nobody needs an Unix-like system without systemd anymore.
Elegy For *BSD
I am a *BSD user,
and I try hard to be brave
That is a tall order
*BSD's foot is in the grave.
I tap at my toy keyboard
and whistle a happy tune
but keeping happy's so hard,
*BSD died so soon.
Each day I wake and softly sob
Nightfall finds me crying
Not only am I a zit faced slob
but *BSD is dying.
BSD Crossing the Bar
Sunset and evening star,
And one clear call for me!
And may there be no moaning of the bar,
When BSD puts out to sea,
But such a tide as moving seems asleep,
Too full for sound and foam,
When that which drew from out the boundless deep
Turns again home.
Twilight and evening bell,
And after that the dark!
And may there be no sadness of farewell,
When BSDs embark;
For tho' from out our bourne of Time and Place
The flood may bear me far,
I hope to see my Pilot face to face
When BSD has crost the bar.
It is official; Netcraft confirms: NetBSD is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already bleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. NetBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that NetBSD has steadily declined in market share. NetBSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If NetBSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. NetBSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a cockeyed miracle could save NetBSD from its fate at this point in time. For all practical purposes, NetBSD is dead.
Fact: NetBSD is dead
Does this shit finally work under Hyper-V?
See subject ANTIFA type (hiding behind unidentifiable ac OR fake names online) behind masks - your diaper's FULL https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
* DEPENDS or PAMPERS fool? Up to you (lmao)... either way?? You got the CRAP blasted out of ya (as always happens to "your kind" (lowest of the LOW & you KNOW it, loser)).
APK
P.S.=> All you Cross-Eyed MARY (lol) types https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (whores that you are, ADVERTISERS (who else would give me shit for making them FASTER/SAFER etc. FOR FREE? Nobody, "MARY" (lmao))... apk
See subject & what happens to "your kind" vs. mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
* Thus your computer's REBOOTED, BSD or not!
(5 knuckle COLD reboot no less)
APK
P.S.=>
But I love APK!The power of the hostfile compels you! by ratboy666 (104074) on Friday January 29, 2016 @04:13PM (#51398927)
See subject (hope you enjoyed the tune webmaster/advertiser (biggest whores you are, lol)): Either 1 of my sister or brother (especially him) would "F" you up, bad...
* See, we're not like "your kind" (hiding like ANTIFA behind either UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous STALKING ME as you are now, OR behind a FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIE of a 'so-called' (wasted) life...)
APK
P.S.=> ... & then I'd come along & teach you a trick or two, CREAMPUFF whimp!... apk
See subject (& a great tune to go w/ it, classic) "WHO WOULD BE A POOR MAN, A BEGGAR MAN, A THIEF (if he had a RICHMAN in his hand)?... & WHO WOULD STEAL THE CANDY FROM A LAUGHIN' BABY'S MOUTH (if he could take it from the MONEYMAN)??" Cross-Eyed Mary Jethro Tull https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
* :)
(You're not my kind o' gal... go AWAY (far away))...
APK
P.S.=> ... "Laughin' in the playground - gets NO 'KICKS' from Lil' Boyz: Rather 'make it' w/ a lechin' grey (or maybe her attention is DRAWN by AQUALUNG who watches thru the railings as they play...) apk
See subject: All it is IS cobbling together OTHERS' software into a script in an UGLY tty term/DOS window & doesn't do NEAR as much BY FAR!
* E.G. #1 - Last time I looked it did not CHECK for valid tld/gTLD (unless he copied me @ this point, as I'm the ONLY ONE that does that & IF you don't check it, you get garbage data in hosts bloating it).
* E.G. #2 - That SCRIPTKIDDIE SCRIPT also doesn't do local hosts RESOLUTIONS (faster vs. security issue riddled remote DNS by far too).
That SCRIPTKIDDIE SCRIPT also is UGLY tty term/DOS level primitive. Folks today WANT GUI (why did Windows beat DOS? Why does X or Wayland & KDE/GNome/xfce etc. exist + GUI apps on them?? Did you surf here using LYNX???)
APK
P.S.=> Use what YOU like - I bet you're Steven Black lol - but MOST people are NOT YOU & most people, today, PREFER GUI programs (& IF the bsd &/or linux crowd want to be more popular they had BETTER "Get with the program" on GUI pal, period)... apk
See subject: It uses OTHERS' software in script via UGLY tty term/DOS window & doesn't do as much!
* E.G. #1 - It didn't CHECK valid tld/gTLD (I do & IF you don't you can get bloat in hosts).
* E.G. #2 - SCRIPTKIDDIE SCRIPT didn't do local hosts RESOLUTION (faster/safer vs. security issue riddled DNS).
Folks WANT GUI (DOS beat Windows? Why does X & KDE/GNome/xfce exist + GUI apps on 'em?? You surf here via LYNX???)
I'm NOT obligated to GIVE AWAY MY WORK so FOOLS COPY it & "call it theirs" ("OpenSORES" PLAGIARISM cripples programmers - hard work OF YOUR OWN doesn't (improving you)).
Every build I do on other platforms IMPROVES (pledge/turn/PRESTIGE by ANALOGY from "The PRESTIGE").
Original windows model yields PERFECT result (does more than that script as noted). Linux does too & faster/more efficiently. BSD + MacOS X version improves it.
APK
P.S.=> MOST people != YOU & IF the bsd &/or linux crowd want users they BETTER "Get with the program" on GUI
Support all the architectures in the world. If you don't support actual people that need to get work done (case in point: USB3). Good luck!
This is why I don't run any BSD. The hardware support sucks ass more than any stinky ass can suck.
APK Hosts File Engine for BSD 64-bit's around the corner (& then in MINUTES for MacOS X) as it is for Windows & Linux already.
It's passed muster for 5 testers over 3++ months now, so, soon she's coming!
* :)
("SAVOIR FAIRE is everywhere" )
APK
P.S.=> "Onwards & UPWARDS" (maybe even ReactOS is on my plate eventually)... apk
I am sure all 7 users are excited.
Until the BSD's get an installer at least on par with something like opensuse it is just too much of a headache to deal with all the incompatibilities with Linux.
What kind of brother and sister let their rascist, mentally challenged brother go on the Internet making crazy claims and threats all day long?
For some reason, this article is under linux.slashdot.org rather than bsd.slashdot.org. How come?
Stop spamming asshole. You have been told many times to go away but you don't seem to be able to parse basic English.
LOL! Throwing tantrums/having FITS now? Get this thru your PUNY head stupid: I don't OBEY a DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" who STALKS me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts - get it??
APK
P.S.=> I understand that you KNOW you're NOTHING but a JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" (hahaha, I love calling you that, as it fits you like a glove) but don't try take it out on ME that you're a ZERO... apk
What more proof do you need that *BSD is dying? That pretty much sums it up.
From Merriam-Webster
See subject: A freak that STALKS me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts wishing he could do this https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... as I can (& he NEVER will).
* Don't flatter yourself w/ your delusions "Jowie" (Love calling you that - it truly FITS you) - you're not STRONG enough to make me do anything stupid like that, so don't fool yourself.
APK
P.S.=> In fact, you're SO damn weak you have to HIDE from me... apk
Your ability to program sucks ass. You have taken weeks upon weeks to port a trivial piece of code that combines several lists of strings into one list, sorts it, eliminate duplicates, and writes that list out to a file. Also it took you 12,000+ lines of code to do that and it speaks volumes about your inability to write quality code. Time for you to throw one of your tantrums because someone spoke the truth about APK's bullshit engine.
See subject: You REALLY think you're fooling anyone but yourself?
APK
P.S.=> Projecting how you stalk me too your every waking hour = hilarious! apk
See subject: You hotair no code to show for yourself blowhard windbag do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" who stalks me by unidentifiable anonymous.
APK
P.S.=> Keep wasting your time STALKING me goof - I love it - it only shows you're just what I call you (lmao AT YOU everytime I do it): JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" (hahahahaha)... apk
Maybe all this anti-APK spam is just someone trying to out-maneuver you while they work on a competing product? - by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:54AM (#56993458)
IF they're doing what you say (but its been going on for YEARS in STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous OR IMPERSONATING me) they're WASTING THEIR TIME vs. working on said competing product themselves.
* I suspect it's webmasters & advertisers (ONLY ones that'd bitch on hosts making folks faster/safer/more reliably connected vs. DNS security issues) + competitors, & lastly malwaremakers.
APK
P.S.=> 15 INFERIOR ones came up on Windows AFTER mine in 2001 which I released on its own IMPROVED in early 2012 (1st model was in a utilities package I did decades ago for 32-bit Windows NT based OS) so it wouldn't surprise me - HOWEVER if you're right? It's taking them FOREVER to do it... apk
I am APK the great "LORD of HOSTS", a.k.a. AlecStaar or Alexander Peter Kowalski.
See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 2.0++ 64-bit for Linux h t t p : / / I . a m . a . f u c k i n g / a s s h o l e . r e t a r d . z i p (remove spaces between characters & download).
I am the godlike creator of various GUI front-ends for other people's configuration files.
Calling people ne'er-do-wells or Jealous JOWIEs is how I think I win every argument
When people state the truth about me I get really mad and accuse them of projecting which is something I do all the time.
Don't call me out on anything unless you are willing to prove you too can write some strings to a file programmatically
Spamming and being a general pain in the ass is what I do
Listen as I relive my glory days of being a college athlete in the early 80s
You must be conspiring with the Jews and Soros if you disagree with me
Bask in my greatness as I can do a ping as a non root user.
Watch as I whine about my work being flagged as malware by anti-virus software.
Witness my descent into madness
APK
See subject: Apparently, you can't THINK for yourself & have to do IMITATIONS (like when you IMPERSONATE me if you're not STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous that is), lol!
* This makes my "bookmarks/favs" for SURE - IF you ever get done that is (taking you long enough - I wrote the core of my program in under a week)
APK
P.S.=> IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY & you're only imitation & FLATTERING me (thanks)... apk
Projecting YOUR profession again CROSS-EYED MARY which is what every webmaster & advertiser is https://www.youtube.com/watch?... lol)? Yes, clearly... how sad!
* Hey, that's WHY I put an end to you INFECTING, TRACKING & SLOWING users of my work which they LIKE + USE https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...
(I aim to please & am of SERVICE to others - it's KEY to a good life + I give folks what they want... lol, EVEN "YOUR KIND" you "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHING flaky ZERO (hence what you quoted - I truly KNOW you like that, getting it up the poop-shute!)).
APK
P.S.=> Face facts: You can IMPERSONATE me all day long (everyone KNOWS it's not I posting the crap you do doing that) OR even STALK ME all over /. - it's your time & LIFE you waste (which you already did in your WASTED life), not mine... as anyone can see in the link above, I do well myself (& do well by others too - double BONUS for all concerned))... apk
See subject: Show work you do others like & use (I can)! I ask it of you & you have ZERO to show & you imitating my work too now? Please - LMAO!
* I wrote the base core code of it in roughly a week & filtering building took a LONG while in that week (then it's testing for @ least 2-3 months by others I find to do so spotting things I might miss). In fact, I had to write 3 more programs that BUILD my filters for me (vs. false positives + vs. invalid tld/gTLD (which makes my code VERY unique along w/ ping resolution of favorites (which IF you copy that you ARE stealing my ideas, massively)).
You can't THINK for yourself & come up w/ something ORIGINAL & UNIQUE as I have (only 1 of its kind of *NIX in GUI + 1st of its kind in Windows since 2001).
APK
P.S.=> Take your own advice LOSER (that has to COPY MY IDEAS & PROGRAMS no less) - jump off that bridge onto PAVEMENT in your case, please (won't you?)... apk
See subject: Yet I can instantly go to any platform & write MY OWN CODE/PROGRAM for it (not scriptkiddie scripts) that's equivalent to 14++ or so *NIX commands in shitty tty term vs. GUI (what MOST people want & use for decades now OR again: Did Windows LOSE to DOS? No).
My program IS of the *NIX philosophy of "do 1 thing & do it well" (process hosts file data) so go away, do-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" TALKER you are.
Scripts are for KIDS (Trix are for kids): ScryptKiddiez... the underskilled menials types, period.
I can put in argv/argc commandline work into my program, but no real point in it. Heck - I could write it as a SINGLE tty term exe & get more performance from it - but GUI IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT (most folks do).
APK
P.S.=>
I'm not so obsessed with winning arguments on the internet that I go around bookmarking posts by other people that I intend to use against them in the future y Anonymous Coward on Monday July 23, 2018 @03:06PM (#56996012)
No you just come in DAYS LATER trying to "get the last word", lol... pitiful! apk
The base of a USER CUSTOMIZABLE/EDITABLE list malwarebytes' employee & I built together vs. sites that should NOT be blocked by default (such as antivirus update servers & many more of like ilk).
USERS HOWEVER CAN EDIT IT & DO WHAT THEY WANT IN IT EITHER EXTENDING THE FILTER or PRUNING IT AS THEY SEE FIT (my entire program is very, Very, VERY flexible (good programs are)).
* Not even a "NICE TRY" you moronic little DOLT that STALKS me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts (proving you FEAR me like the dishonorable SNEAKY skulking little BITCH you are).
APK
P.S.=> Wildcards are KNOWN to cause FALSE POSITIVES stupid - too broad = why (@ times/in cases). Hosts specifics are NOT. Give up: Believe me, I've seen the BS you're trying before & BLEW IT AWAY with CHUMPS & wannabes like you MANY times... apk
BROCKMIRE = PROVEN illiterate moron (& tried to say me posting Win version reviews = bogus & ate his words) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...
* LMAO you pitiful DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" PROVEN ILLITERATE MORON, lol...
APK
P.S.=> "Read 'em & WEEP" bitch, lol... apk
Who IMPERSONATES me: Tell us of your MILLION$ (of lies) "phantasies" https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & you admit IMPERSONATING ME https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... + STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous too... pitiful!
WHO'S "DESCENDING INTO MADNESS"? Not I - you clearly are!
* Accept fact: You CAN'T STOP ME &/or "downmodbomb" me via your SOCKPUPPET alternate /. accounts you FARM downmodpoints with - I just systematically methodically RUN YOU DRY of those, lol - every SINGLE time & out of "FrUsTrAtiOn" you begin your f'd up rants when I run you out of those downmodpoints.
APK
P.S.=> You impersonating me proves you wish you were me & imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - but you = poor imitation. Your STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous proves you FEAR me also... apk
Reproducible builds is a highlight? OMG. That really worries me that at this stage in the game that's a highlight. RedHat was doing that with Linux over two decades ago. Hell, even Microsoft has been doing that for years.
On resolving BLOCKED ones who CARES how FAST it is - I do NOT want to get to them & no wildcard falsies!
I put where you spend MOST TIME (favorite sites) @ TOP of hosts so they resolve fastest (either nslookup code OR ping -a code (I elected the latter & WHY is below (2 fold)).
AFAIK, I'm the ONLY Object Pascal code that DOES it RIGHT working. I've seen even synapse & other toolkits FAIL on it - I don't.
MINE's the ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI, what folks want, in Linux & 1st of its kind since 2000-2001 in Windows!
(Often copied but inferior versions no favs speedup & protection vs. DNS security issues OR tld/gTLD check, only MINE does both).
Nice, thanks for the idea by UNORIGINAL COPYCAT WORM Anonymous Coward who wants to try DUPLICATE my work, best of its kind on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:02PM (#56996802)
* You are nothing but a THIEF UNABLE TO THINK FOR HIMSELF - period.
You want to COPY my work https://linux.slashdot.org/com... !
I assume you do this to reduce the list length to improve performance as there is no point wasting effort on dead hosts. by UNORIGINAL COPYCAT WORM Anonymous Coward who wants to try DUPLICATE my work, best of its kind on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:02PM (#56996802)
I do via PING (only downside = malware makers can set ICMPEcho to NOT reply) which can check for DEAD sites.
APK
P.S.=> Addendum to https://linux.slashdot.org/com...
See subject: Threats to whom? Unreal people named UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous coward OR a FAKE NAME online??
RoTfLmAo...
(Especially vs. ANTIFA pussies that HIDE BEHIND MASKS as noted above WHICH YOU DO both STALKING me OR IMPERSONATING ME - you're pussy punks, nothing more - losers).
You're not even REAL & the LOWEST of the LOW on the rung of societies' ladder because you FAILED in life & are quite honestly BLATANTLY INFERIOR on ALL levels (mental/physical/morally etc.) - it shows!
APK
P.S.=> Don't even TRY that crap w/ me WHIMP - I'll EASILY outsmart, outthink & OUTDO "your kind" (the "ne'er-do-well" INFERIOR DEFICIENT ONES, lol) every time as always dumbass... apk
Did you know: If you just posted the first part, and left out everything after the smiley, nobody would downmod you?
That they're actually downmodding you for being an insane narcissist all the time who constantly tries to stir up trouble and pretend that he's being stalked and persecuted, when the reality is that you're just kind of crazy and annoying?
Now you know, and knowledge is power
I do via PING (only downside = malware makers can set ICMPEcho to NOT reply) which can check for DEAD sites. By APK on Monday July 23, 2018 @10:48PM (#56998276)
See subject & that quote where I cover an IP stack setting to NOT reply to PING & as far as EXCLUDING a bad host? I have a filter for that USERS SETUP dumbass!
APK
P.S.=> I think IF you make good on your 'threat' TO IMITATE MY PROGRAM + COPY MY UNIQUE IDEAS/TECH IN IT https://linux.slashdot.org/com... I'm going to F YOU UP BAD on mistakes you make & EMBARASS YOU, lol - bigtime(in fact, I almost GUARANTEE that))... apk
See subject: Ping gains speed via local host verified resolution + can check dead hosts + Ad/Script block (50% of sitesize) makes up for host parse via kernelmode speed (faster as it gets MORE CPU PRIORITY vs. USERMODE)
I have NEVER ever 'pruned' hosts to see how BIG it can get before I get a 'speed hit' since 1997 & to date, I haven't.
I also don't prune my blocked sites as I never EVER intend to GET TO THEM ANYHOW so speed = non-issue here.
(BUT I can via ping & it also speeds up your FAV sites & secures you vs. DNS security issues).
I could use nslookup OR dig code but I LITERALLY "kill 2 birds w/ 1 stone" doing it via ping + keeps codebase smaller (my Linux model's code is literally 1/2 the size of the older Win32/64 model).
APK
P.S.=> Why do YOU again REPEAT what I SAID 1st BEFORE you:
(only downside = malware makers can set ICMPEcho to NOT reply) By APK on Monday July 23, 2018 @10:48PM (#56998276)
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my opinion of you has just taken a nose dive and recreating your program is going to be even easier by UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous Coward WHO I DO HIS THINKING FOR AS HE IMITATES MY ORIGINAL WORK & IDEAS on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @06:31AM (#56999426)
See subject: Imitating MY unique tech OR using what I told you on nslookup/dig IS again ME DOING YOUR THINKING FOR YOU!
FACT: You haven't done a DAMN THING yourself OR even thought of it UNTIL I OUTLINE IT FOR YOU on nslookup &/or dig style methods, let alone PING & denying ICMPEcho reply to "hide' a server (maybe NOT best idea for malware makers - ping's USED TO TEST SERVER UP/DOWN).
APK
P.S.=> Again SEE SUBJECT & I don't have a "high opinion" of THIEVES (but then that's ALL YOU "OpenSORES" goofs do - STEAL others work &/or ideas which you HELP PROVE all the more)... apk
you wrote your program in a week? I think I should be able to knock something out in an afternoon because I hear around here that you aren't a very good programmer UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous STALKING ME AFRAID OF ME + STEALING MY IDEAS/CAN'T DO IT HIMSELF UNLESS I GIVE HIM POINTERS on Monday July 23 2018
Thought you could "do it in a day" Mr. STALKER who stalks me by UNIDENTIFIABLE ac + IMPERSONATES ME https://linux.slashdot.org/com...
What happened BIGMOUTH?
I started this thread with you hoping to dig out some more info on your hosts engine as I am looking to copy it and release my own software later this year UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous STALKING ME AFRAID OF ME + STEALING MY IDEAS/CAN'T DO IT HIMSELF UNLESS I GIVE HIM POINTERS on Tuesday July 24 2018
I did it in a WEEK & "the impossible" in Object Pascal as even synapse FAILED on ping!
Can't YOU?
* You're going to hit MORE walls & when you do (+ you'll show your code right?)?
I'll rip you in 1/2 EMBARASSING you for your bs you do MY way!
* I helped scriptkiddies who tried it (not writing their own code & NEITHER ARE YOU as I outlined nslookup, hosts, dig & ping methods possibles YOU DIDN'T THINK OF 1st): They f'd up.
APK
P.S.=> You will too... apk
you wrote your program in a week? I think I should be able to knock something out in an afternoon because I hear around here that you aren't a very good programmer by UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous STALKING ME AFRAID OF ME + STEALING MY IDEAS/CAN'T DO IT HIMSELF UNLESS I GIVE HIM POINTERS on Monday July 23 2018
See subject: That afternoon came & went & you STILL haven't IMITATED my work & you said you could in a day + you steal my idea also on using host/dig/dnslookup vs. ping (which will make the code just mine again anyway).
I'm not a good programmer?
To each his own/mere opinion but I can SHOW different opinions from REGISTERED /.ers vs. you (you can't) contrary to YOUR BS (& it is now PROVEN bs) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...
I didn't take a YEAR (& say I could do my program in 1 afternoon AS YOU DID now YOU EAT YOUR WORDS) - I wrote it in 1 week tops.
I don't like the idea of you COPYING me (imitation IS the sincerest form of FLATTERY) either but then again, you now need a YEAR to do so, lol!
So - what happened to YOUR 'braggadocio' above?
* You CAN"T THINK FOR YOURSELF & you certainly aren't making GOOD on your IMITATION "hotairware" by this point either!
APK
P.S.=> Lastly - keep STALKING ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts - it's doing you WONDERS (but it's not helping you make good on your b.s. quoted above, IMITATOR that's right up there w/ you IMPERSONATING me too https://linux.slashdot.org/com... ... apk
No one uses your bullshit sperg.
Why use something that is always out of date when their are 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 better options?
Your mommmy needs to take away your computer and give your barbies back.
numbnuts
See subject: I'm the only hosts program that gives folks more speed & security + anonymity vs. remote DNS security issues + tracking via ping -a & it works (on the 1st of all hosts programs on Windows AND the ONLY hosts program in GUI on Linux/BSD).
* I never SOLD this - it's FREEWARE!
(After the above I must ask YOU the question you ask me EXCEPT in YOUR CASE, it truly applies - WTF is WRONG w/ YOU?)
APK
P.S.=> You're the one that needs help - I don't. I wrote my code in a week's time & you need a year? https://linux.slashdot.org/com... - I don't NEED help against you & "your kind" since you always DEFEAT YOURSELVES for me, every time (lol)... apk
It's FREEWARE (I never sold it) & I don't need help when unidentifiable anonymous goofs like you defeat yourselves for me, lol!
APK
P.S.=> You FAIL again - it's the 1 thing you ARE good at, lmao... apk
See subject: I thought you could build it in an afternoon? Guess not, eh?? I can't stop you but many have tried in Windows & didn't (inferior imitations, nothing more).
* I can't stop you I suppose as I don't know who you are since you HIDE by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts!
APK
P.S.=> 3 things tell me I am doing it well & doing it right: 1st users feedback/praise of my hosts engine https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... 2nd ALL THE "ATTACKS" I GET (especially from UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous fools, just like Elon Musk got yesterday) & 3rd BEING IMITATED (as you allegedly intend to try & so far have FAILED in 'doing it in an afternoon' which tells me you really aren't a GOOD coder making shoddy estimates like THAT, lol (Many have only to produce inferior models)) as "Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery"... apk
See subject & answer this question: What do you intend to write your IMITATION of MY work in (what language/toolsets etc.)?
APK
P.S.=> I'm VERY CURIOUS since you said you could "write it in an afternoon" & "StRaNgeLy" haven't (lol, not)... apk
I wrote the basecode in a week - no lie (3 days of it w/ only 2 hrs. of sleep between them admittedly (once I'm hot on it, I just do that so I don't lose "rhythm" (people who DO code, unlike YOU obviously, will understand)) & remember:
I had the Windows model to PORT it from Delphi to FreePascal Object Pascal code (vastly improving it & making it 1/2 the size too - rethought it into a BETTER design)).
IF I had to do it all again? MAYBE a month tops in summation (if redone from scratch).
I am perfectly capable of writing in an afternoon. - by UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous Coward STALKING ME + COPYING MY IDEAS I GIVE HIM on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @11:03AM (#57006602)
Oh, really? Where IS it then??
* ANSWER = it's not, lol...
APK
P.S.=> See subject & yes, blacklists work (glad you agree) + maintaining MY hosts blocking list is as EZ as ApplePie via my program, OR did these users lie https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ? QUESTION: What toolsets & language do you intend to write your IMITATION (the sincerest form of flattery imitating ME + using my ideas on dig/host/nslookup code I gave you) in? apk
What language & tools are you using to IMITATE my program (along w/ using MY ideas of nslookup/dig/host)? I write part of the list myself (everyday I find between 50-500 entries myself) & the rest my program imports from the lists I use YOU STOLE FROM MY CODEBASE admittedly https://linux.slashdot.org/com... where you said "PS: I've already scraped your lists from your software, thanks."
(You're nothing but a thief & can't think for yourself).
How does one KNOW what to ad? Pun intended - ADS are easy to spot to ad. So are 3rd party SCRIPT sources.
I never said I do it ALL myself but I do part of it.
I said how my ping method can test if sources are up OR sinkholed dead long ago.
Users can easily edit out anything they don't like (one of the principal beauties of hosts is end user FULL control of their content).
APK
P.S.=> See subject: What toolset & language are you using to IMITATE/COPY/STEAL my ideas + work? I asked this of you LONG AGO & you AVOIDED it here https://linux.slashdot.org/com... ... apk
Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid - by JazzLad April 20, 2016
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015
I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015
that APK guy, I use his host file by rogoshen1 Tuesday March 03, 2015
I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017
* Want more? Ask!
APK
P.S.=> What "better options"? You mean the ones that SLOW YOU DOWN & ARE FULL OF SECURITY ISSUES (DNS/Antivirus) OR Crippled to NOT DO THEIR JOB BY DEFAULT (AdBlock)?... apk
There's issues w/ ANY other method I noted in dig/host/nslookup - it's called DNS security issues hosts hardcoded favorite sites ONLY I DO in hosts mgt. programs no less prevents.
DNS can be redirect poisoned (THIS NEEDS FIXING so does unlimted domain Godaddy/Tucows hosting)
Yes goes for ping -a methods too admittedly.
PING being 'downed' by malware makers is possible BUT not likely (it's how to detect C&C servers up/down).
APK
P.S.=> Part #2 coming (as AC I can't post as much as you do (which tells me YOU have an account here but are HIDING from me, lol)... apk
See subject & rightclick on list displayed onscreen of my program allows FIND & DELETE actions (or options to open hosts in the default editor user can configure this too to do so).
I thought about 'partnering' w/ UBlock (also featured @ hpHosts/Malwarebytes) as it USES HOSTS added later in it (flattery for me too yet again), but, hosts operate LONG BEFORE addons & faster (kernelmode vs. usermode).
* ANY LIST in my program is editable too by users by the way (false postive filter, favorite sites to speedup & protect vs. DNS security issues etc.)!
JAVA & PHP = slow &/or full of bugs. I'd say use C/C++ but since this deals in strings BOTH = null-terminated strings buffer overflows (why I didn't use 'em & I'm fluent in C/C++/Java too) - ObjectPascal WAS IT (going to steal that too?): length's built into strings, no buffer overflow!
APK
P.S.=> Addendum to part #1/2 here - https://linux.slashdot.org/com... ... apk
Faster tools? ObjectPascal BEAT C++/JAVA/VB to a PULP in 4/6 tests in Visual Basic Programmer's Journal 1997 sept/oct issue "Inside the VB5 Compiler" & tied 1 w/ C++ & lost only 1 (so did C++) to VB (ActiveX formload, but ActiveX = security poison, no biggie) ESPECIALLY in MATH & STRINGS by 2-4x FASTER no less & JAVA isn't anywhere NEAR as fast as C++ (which like ObjectPascal IS multiplatform OS wise on PC's & phones).
(... & every program deals in those BUT HOSTS PROCESSING IS as you know HUGELY STRINGWORK).
Other tests bore this out too (even using INLINE ASSEMBLY CODE which older models of my program used in Delphi 7).
Lastly on addons you noted: Too EASILY detected by native browser methods by malware or sites - hosts aren't. They're OUTSIDE the browser in the kernelmode IP stack = why.
APK
P.S.=> HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR YOU lol "better @ posting on /." (that would have ZERO to do w/ it - reg'd users, even submitting AC, can put down MORE than PURE AC like me - so please, don't lie - I don't CARE if you copy me now - the tools you use BLOW (slow & buggy))... apk
See subject: C/C++ are null-terminated strings (thus buffer overflow exploit is possible & this is a LOT of stringwork) SO - IF you're smart?
* AVOID LANGUAGES THAT HAVE KNOWN SECURITY ISSUES (especially when writing securityware) in an AREA the program works in!
Apparently SO DOES JAVA! PHP = buggy & slow like JAVA too.
JAVA's KNOWN to be LOADED with bugs (were popping up everyday almost since its inception to this year) - I know I follow security forums like MAD (another source of data vs. malware but in non-std. format so I get those when I look @ their articles manually & add them to hosts).
APK
P.S.=> @ this point? LOL, I could CARE LESS if you TRY copy my work - the tools you use MAY be your undoing for performance & security... apk
An analogy from Dr. Strange (great flick, & in a way? Reflects MY life): https://www.youtube.com/watch?... "The language of the mystic arts is as old as civilization: The sorcerors (programmers) of antiquity called the use of this language 'spells' BUT if that 'offends' your 'modern sensibilities'? You can call it a program. The sourcecode that SHAPES REALITY - we harness energy drawn from OTHER DIMENSIONS OF THE MULTIVERSE (other sites) to cast spells, to conjure shields to make MAGIC!"
* I hope you have the sensitivity to understand...
(... & UNLIKE many here? @ least YOU SHOW INITIATIVE...)
APK
P.S.=> ... & I am a HUGE fan of that & RESPECT it (but NOT your choices of 'weapons' you're using (think it over))... apk
See subject: In the "site checkers" part of my program by LONG ESTABLISHED sites that do what you say e.g. hpHosts, stopbadware, Norton Safeweb & many more. Pascal & C/C++ ARE high level languages with AGES of development behind them as well as online support AND documentation - that's what I think of all of what you state.
* I don't TRUST Java & have HAD to code it on the job before for years (forced to) - too buggy TOO often TOO MANY TIMES!
APK
P.S.=> I hope your users are experts in malware analysis (that's what my 'site checkers' section of my program has going for it - not grandma chattering online etc. as your cred for saying a site's good/bad)... apk
See subject: I get part of my data from sites (users will & can reconfigure it to OTHER sources too) & part myself https://linux.slashdot.org/com... - so LEARN TO READ!
* For my OWN personal hosts file (ads are easy to spot & via VIEW SOURCE of HTML files I can spot 3rd party tracking scripts easily too).
APK
P.S.=> I'd stop now were I you - I'm tearing you up on EVERY SINGLE FRONT (but then, you don't care - you're HIDING FROM ME via UNIDENTFIABLE anonymous posts & also 'threatening' to IMITATE my work (albeit via SHITTY insecure & SLOW tools by comparison to ObjectPascal I used (no null-term'd string buffer overflow possibles (in a security program DEALING IN STRINGS no less) & FASTER than MSVC++))... apk
See if USERS trust JAVA, lol (seriously) & lists users get from MY program (not MY personal list) get pruned regularly by the sites they came from.
* YOURS IS GOING TO BE FAR SLOWER THAN OBJECT PASCAL (java got WASTED by ObjectPascal I use with NO NULL-TERMINATED BUFFEROVERFLOW ISSUES C/C++/JAVA CAN HAVE (& more will popup in JAVA as always on security issues) https://linux.slashdot.org/com... as I noted here as well as even C++ (by over 4x often in stringwork which IS what this IS about largely)).
APK
P.S.=> As I also said before? You're going to make mistakes on HOW you process the data (all the scriptkiddies here I helped to WRITE their scripts for it did, odds are, you will too (as you are in the toolsets you use which WILL be INFERIOR in performance + ADDONS ARE EASILY DETECTED BY MALWARE via native browser methods & blocked by said malware) - take your own advice WATCH & LEARN (I did ages ago before you ever THOUGHT about IMITATING MY WORK & IDEAS)... apk
See subject: ... the "competitors" also - keeps you having to BETTER your product to outcompete competition (remember Intel 66mhz 486 cpus "ruling the roost" for AGES as Intel really didn't have that much competition from AMD or Cyrix circa 1990-1996 or so? Case in point example there - CPUs were "frozen" @ 66mhz topspeed (& other performance features) there forever UNTIL AMD surged forward to "PUSH" Intel).
* In the end, good luck w/ your imitation (I think you'll NEED it but the point's there AND here in a post I put your way late last night/early a.m. here https://linux.slashdot.org/com... FROM Dr. "StRaNgE" (which my pals used to call me, lol))
APK
P.S.=> "Onwards & UPWARDS"... apk
Malwarebytes Browser Extension (downfall is it's a browser extension = easily detected) https://blog.malwarebytes.com/...
* Wouldn't SURPRISE me IF this IS you "reaming my ideas" (all I have to do is see how they implemented it to know & IF it matches the architecture you laid out BUT AVOIDED when I asked you about what toolchain you intended to use (JAVA etc.)).
APK
P.S.=> Again - HOW DO I KNOW I did it RIGHT & WELL (#2 & #3 below describe YOU perfectly)?
1st = User praise of my hosts engine https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...
2nd "ATTACKS" I GET (from UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous fools, just like Elon Musk got https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... )
3rd BEING IMITATED as "Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery" https://linux.slashdot.org/com... ... apk
My proposal for a browser extension was to make it easier for the user group to identify advertising hosts - by UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous Coward COPYING MY IDEAS/WORK on Friday July 27, 2018 @08:24AM (#57018234)
See subject & a quote of you above - where'd you say THAT speciifically (not that it'd matter: It's only a FRACTION of what I do in hosts).
* As far as "how I act"? Hey - look @ the replies I get:
https://linux.slashdot.org/com... + https://linux.slashdot.org/com... + https://linux.slashdot.org/com... + https://linux.slashdot.org/com... + https://linux.slashdot.org/com... + https://linux.slashdot.org/com... + https://linux.slashdot.org/com...
APK
P.S.=> See subject & It's tradition to say this (as I've dealt w/ that kind of CRAP from AC's like you whom are all the same to me): It's NOT EASY being "World-Class" like ME (since I put up w/ that crap & GET IMITATED, STALKED & IMPERSONATED)... apk
My proposal for a browser extension was not to perform blocking. - by Anonymous Coward COPYING MY IDEAS + STALKING ME BY UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS HIDING FROM ME on Friday July 27, 2018 @08:24AM (#57018234)
I quote you above saying you're not doing blocking but NOW you do? Give me a break/see subject + this other quote of you:
I always stated that the browser extension would be for collating new hosts to block.by Anonymous Coward COPYING MY IDEAS + STALKING ME BY UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS HIDING FROM ME on Sunday July 29, 2018 @06:56PM (#57029958)
Make up your mind & a LOT of "afternoons"'ve passed YOU WHO SAID HE COULD WRITE THIS ALL IN AN AFTERNOON & you say I HAVE AN "ELEVATED OPINION" OF MYSELF? LMAO - look who's talking (& nothing more on YOUR end, just cheap talk).
* Hey - @ least I DELIVER working product (not "notware'hotairware" like YOU... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Go AWAY, talker/copier/stalker (you're all talk)... apk
See subject: I tried to warn you about using JAVA due to errors it nigh constantly shows but go ahead & write it up as NOBODY likes ads (& despite you saying "you're not blocking", YOU ARE or providing data to do so - not a bad idea).
Performance in JAVA isn't the greatest but hey - it's "your program" after all.
* It's just that my program does a lot more types of threats from valid reputable sources you can CHANGE to whatever ones you like & it works (has a 'generic' function that can handle most any list-based data & SPECIFIC ones for sites it comes with already that you stole from MY program (Not a big deal)) & I didn't write it in languages that could hit STRING PROCESSING PROBLEMS (C/C++) if they don't opt for "pascal strings" (most won't & it's a mistake taking that risk in a security-oriented (in part, rest is speed & reliability) program).
I am GLAD I also pointed out host/dig/nslookup possible problems due to DNS security redirect issues.
I'm also NOT here to win a "popularity contest" OR to "comfort anyone". I'm just here to WIN so EVERYONE ELSE CAN TOO & be faster/safer/more reliably connected online.
When I get attacked by unidentifiable ac's like you who also COPY my ideas (even in part as you are), & I get praise from REGISTERED users here? I'm doing a decent job.
APK
P.S.=> All things you have to think about in this madness (I've been there LONG ago & opted ping -a since it does 2 jobs in my program (verify hostname & speedup of favorites))... apk
JAVA security issues in GENERAL over a DECADE++ (that keep coming like MAD) I'm FAR from incorrect about: Users KNOW of 'em & many, including myself, WILL NOT INSTALL JAVA anymore due to it.
*... think it OVER man!
APK
P.S.=> Lastly, the FASTER it operates the better also (this NEVER hurts & I am TRYING to point this out to you but to each his own)... apk
See subject: I'm curious as I never used it that way - what does the Java code interpretation in your case if not the java runtime engine?
APK
P.S.=> I used it for programming applications & it indeed was run by the java runtime but I never tried doing what you are up to so enlighten me as to my question above... apk
"Java Plug-in technology, included as part of the Java Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (Java SE), establishes a connection between popular browsers and the Java platform. This connection enables applets on Web sites to be run within a browser on the desktop." AND "Java Plug-in technology is part of the current version of the Java Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (Java SE). Download the JRE." http://www.oracle.com/technetw...
* I KNEW THERE WAS NO WAY YOU COULD ESCAPE THE OFTEN FAULTY IN SECURITY Java Runtime Engine...
APK
P.S.=> Again: FOR YOUR OWN SAKE? Think it over as to using it... apk
I've LONG known of MAC/DAC. Using Java runtime (which you do even in browser plugins) increases risk of exploitation due to security issues that seem to always popup in JAVA itself.
* You go write that though, it's not a bad idea, since as I said you're NOT doing as much as hosts do & it is VERY EASY to spot ads for most anyone (scripts too if you know enough to look for script tags in HTML source views) for your "social score" check you spoke of of data gathered.
A decent use of 'crowdsourcing' that doesn't DEMAND users of your intended ware to be 'experts' @ malware analysis.
APK
P.S.=> I just wouldn't use something that's known to have bugs in it that popup NIGH constantly - but, that's me (hence why I avoided using C/C++ due to null-terminated strings used in buffer overflow exploits & yes, C++'s slower string performance vs. Object Pascal (doesn't need to perform strlen checks OR to send in 2 pointers (1 double the size of the other & when larger fails double size of smaller that didn't) to determine length))... apk
4,841,640++ & growing merging ~500,000 a day (w/ repeats so I grow by `1,500 per day of 500k) & that # increased the past few years (used to add only a few 100/day not too many years back).
* Might as well say 5 million++ a day...
(Takes YEARS grow to THAT size - took me since 1997 & I never prune as I wanted to see IF large hosts adversely affect performance - they don't as only ones I wish to get to FAST are my fav 100 sites I spend most time @ at TOP of hosts so they resolve fast as possible - especially vs. remote DNS - blocked ones I could care less about getting to "fast" (I never intended to get to them (malicious ones & ads + tracker script sources)).
Rate of growth = 1 million in 2011, 2 million in 2013, 3 million in 2014 & 4 million in 2016.
APK
P.S.=> Plus I add in what I find on SECURITY SITES daily as well which I do find every day out of around 30 of them I scour for this information vs. malicious sites mainly... apk
I'm all stringlists objects (have deduplication methods built into said objects as many languages do in said object - so it's SOLID + PROVEN) & SORT I use PRIOR to that of course, are of a modified quicksort, also LONG PROVEN (most "generic" thru all set sizes). I almost went w/ a heapsort though (& have the code for it) but it's a lot MORE code for little ROI (if any) over a modified quicksort.
(It works & produces a perfect result + has since my program's inception in 2001 (only I made the code 1/2 the size even vs. the 2012 Win32/64 release + FASTER & MORE EFFICIENT in the Linux version (does literally 2x the work in 1/2 the time of the Windows model))
* What REALLY matters is the end result (not even the code used to do it) - data's the future/of import, NOT programs when you come right down to it!
For this, that's BAD things blocked in the hosts file so users are safer vs. threats & faster via what I do via fav sites @ top of hosts.
APK
P.S.=> I had to "boost" the speed - as you saw from my telling you "the #'s"? The speed & frequency @ which bad sites etc. are coming is INCREASING the past few years now (though users won't hit the SIZE I have now for YEARS most likely (took me decades)? I accounted for it way, Way, WAY AHEAD OF TIME so it all processes faster) - & I'm STILL not done yet on THAT front imo ... apk
Why's it #12/20 on the TIOBE index https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-in... & never left top 20 since 2001? It's a GREAT CHOICE for the project I used it for (lots of string processing) due to its speed & security in string processing.
Again (as I said it before earlier) Delphi Object Pascal took 4/6 tests (in a competing trade mag no less) in Sept/Oct Visual Basic Programmer's Journal 1997 issue titled "Inside the VB5 Compiler" where it BEAT MSVC++ by FAR in string processing (like by 4-5x times) & in math (by double iirc) & only lost 1 test (as did C++) to VB (ActiveX form loads, no biggie, as ActiveX is known security poison) & tied C++ in 1 test.
* I chose it for my hosts engine https://it.slashdot.org/commen... because Object Pascal has length built-into strings & thus NO null-terminated C/C++ buffer overflow exploit possibles can happen due to that - Especially in a program GEARED MOSTLY FOR SECURITY (though hosts also give you added speed not only in adblocking but also local resolution).
APK
P.S.=> That answer your question? Oh, I think so (I know so)... apk
Java'd be #1 on list of bugs/security errors too - I program it too for years & saw more bugs popup in it I didn't see in other languages (especially Delphi Object Pascal (or FreePascal afaik too)).
APK
P.S.=> Java's also way, Way, WAY LESS of a performer (slower) since it's runtime interpreted vs. being a TRUE stand-alone executable by default... apk
You are correct on both counts, however, Java development is fast, there is plenty of support material available online, and if I need to hire developers I know I'll be able to find them anywhere in the world.
These other factors have to be taken into account when planning a software development project.
See subject: I know this since on Windows vs. my version there (slower than my Linux one) a .NET imitator was done: 4x as slow as the Windows version (which is 4x as slow, @ least, vs. my Linux model (& as I said? I'm STILL not done performance enhancing it - how? Busting the data up into 100 chunks (code's done using div/mod (for uneven chunk remainders for final pieces)) & using CThreads to process the data (I use threads elsewhere though too), like digging a ditch w/ 100 shovels vs. 1 & on SMALLER chunks, eventually stitching them back together (disk I/O comes into play on re-assembly though, a slowdown tradeoff but NOT bad on SSD, only not everyone (yet) has SSD vs. HDD latency)).
* WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU? DO IT!
Sounds like you're just "gathering" clientside data on what users find as ads - not near what I am going putting in data vs. KNOWN BAD SITES (malware/botnets etc.) but still a good thing (nobody likes ads, especially ones that TRACK/INFECT/SLOW them). ... & I'd explain HOW to do script tags too vs. trackers + ads origins UNLESS YOU DO IT FOR THEM that is) so then you do it 'server-side', right? Product of file data in hosts is then resent to users (watch reload lag, it happens - WHY browsers are LOADING HOSTS DATA lately is beyond me - the IP stack should be the ONLY thing that does).
I'd do it as an 'oldschool' higher performing isapi/nsapi LIB/DLL if you want it to run faster (believe me - when it gets BIG, it gets SLOW & accuracy is the MOST IMPORTANT PART vs. speed imo w/ ANY data - work on SPEED, later)).
BUT, that's me... I can't STOP YOU trying to "imitate" my work (but you're not in full so what do I care?), so I can @ least try help you.
APK
P.S.=> "Been there. done that" is why, LONG ago (17++ or more years now, great FUN hobby & of service to others) - just warning you of 'downside' potential in JAVA (security-wise) OR even JavaScript (both pretty BAD there)... apk
Pascal & C++ have more documentation (more time put in = why, older + long proven) & both are OOP fast. Devs abound in both too.
* I took into account ANYONE or ANYTHING I need to do it (& I only needed an "army of 1" - me!
(That is, not including datasources I use, & thank goodness for them - & I'm finding the sources you "pinched" from MY .ini file aren't enough (other security sites that say, BLEEPING COMPUTER points too even get MORE & MORE CURRENT/DANGEROUS THREATS are proving EXTREMELY VALUABLE but their data's NOT in list format (would demand regex work OR custom "atomic string" work for each & since this is merely a hobby of mine? LOL, no way - users can gather those manually as I do, IF they wish)).
Std. sites you pinched? Again - they're a STARTING PLACE, good ones yes, best I could find (some are going under/away in 2 of them so you know (securemecca due to poor health of owner & someonewhocares went HTTPS (I grab it manually & replaced it w/ sysctl.org (& there's bluetack + more, hence the flexible .ini design)) - but there are FAR more too.
Next build on *NIX will have EXTRA ones too (sources users can add as they wish - since when you UNCHECK all sources in my program? It just does nothing then, hence allowing for more, completely user configurable)).
APK
P.S.=> Above's an IMPORTANT ADDENDUM to my OTHER REPLY to you here too https://linux.slashdot.org/com... since I can't stop you, but you're not completely duplicating what I do for hosts either, I can try help & WARN YOU of things you might "hit walls" on (or not) - might as well BUILD THE BEST YOU CAN right off vs. doing it 2-3x as I had to after hard knock PUNCH IN THE HEAD experience I hit (my app CAN be done in 4-7 minutes BUT what IF the data I merge has NOT BEE FILTERED? Hence 2nd ending FILTER CHECK vs. "Garbage Data" being one example thereof (something to lookout for on newly merged data))... apk
My proposal for a browser extension was not to perform blocking. - by UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous Coward COPYING ME & HIDING FROM ME on Friday July 27, 2018 @08:24AM (#57018234)
I quote you above saying you're not doing blocking but NOW you do? Give me a break/see subject + this other quote of you:
I always stated that the browser extension would be for collating new hosts to block. - by UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous Coward COPYING ME & HIDING FROM ME on Sunday July 29, 2018 @06:56PM (#57029958)
NOW SUDDENLY AGAIN YOU DO BLOCKING & MORE THAN JUST ADS?
* I'll believe it when I see it as it was only supposed to take an 'afternoon' to do - & then I'll also know who you are too when you finally DO put it out, if ever...
APK
P.S.=> You'll find out on filtering the data what can happen (it's not in "std. format" & has TONS of trailing (or not) garbage data (have fun building the filters is all I can say & when they put in more garbage data into it in comments etc. - this is one of the worst parts of building said filter & when they change it? Even worse) - what I'm saying is WATCH IT ON MERGING NEW DATA is all... apk
When I do "merge" in my program, say I was to bring in another source (not filtered & NOT in the set you took from MY program)? IF I don't RE-FILTER for more than potential & POSSIBLE crap in it &/or false positives can get in is what I am saying!
See - My program, after it's init. import, can be done in LITERALLY 2-7 minutes depending on dataset size BUT takes longer 7-30 minutes because I RECHECK again (vs. new non-filtered alternate data being brought in NOT accounted for from OTHER SOURCES & yes, there are many of those in non-std. form like SECURITY SITES Bleeping Computer points to daily)!
All, depending on what ELSE I merge in ontop of that "std. dataset" STARTING POINT sources you took from MY work!
(& it really is that - a starting point ONLY, good one, but NOT COMPLETE/THOROUGH AS POSSIBLE)
(... & again (can't stress it enough) there are FAR MORE SOURCES that are NOT in "std. list format" (not that THOSE are, someonewhocares & mvps are the WORST & NOTORIOUS for clotting the host file data w/ utter bullshit (slows loads & parses)). Not that their data is bad - what they COMPOUND SLOWNESS in it IS (which I shear away). Build the filters? Murder... & it changes too (worse murder)).
Merge that added daily data in from "non-std. sources" + hosts I built up previous - data gets BIG, programming on it slows up (hence my having to boost its speed more as I've done repeatedly in the last 3 builds to GOOD effect/working)...
* Beware... & have fun!
APK
P.S.=> Any OTHER questions? This goes along w/ my other reply to you here https://linux.slashdot.org/com... - & IF you need more clarification, be precise, not ambiguous... apk