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20 States Take Aim At 3D Gun Company, Sue To Get Files Off the Internet (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Twenty states announced Monday that they plan to ask a federal judge in Seattle to immediately issue a temporary restraining order against Defense Distributed, a Texas-based group that has already begun making 3D-printer gun files available on its DEFCAD website after a recent legal settlement with the US State Department. "After almost 18 months I was skeptical that there was anything else that this administration would do that would truly shock me, but they have," Washington Attorney General Bill Ferguson told reporters assembled in Olympia and by phone. "Frankly, it is terrifying... We think that it is important to put a stop to this right away and make it as difficult as humanly possible to access this information." The new lawsuit, which Ferguson explained will be filed "within hours," comes just one day after Defense Distributed voluntarily agreed to block IP addresses from Pennsylvania after that state's attorney general filed a similar motion in federal court there. "Pennsylvania is still suing and we are still responding," Defense Distributed's founder, Cody Wilson, told Ars. Preemptively on Sunday, Defense Distributed sued the attorney general of New Jersey and the city attorney of Los Angeles to stop those lawsuits, largely on First Amendment grounds.

In this new 20-state initiative, the Washington attorney general argued that the State Department settlement violated the Administrative Procedure Act and also infringed upon states' Tenth Amendment right to regulate firearms within their own states. Ferguson pointed out, for example, people convicted of domestic abuse are flagged when they attempt to legally buy a gun. Allowing anyone to download and manufacture their own gun circumvents that process, he said. But Wilson told Ars it may be too late, as the files went up last Friday evening -- days before he said he would resume publishing them on August 1.

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  1. Prior Restraint of Expression? by Artagel · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think that Washington's attorney general is confusing the right to publish with being responsible for what you publish. It is extremely hard to restrain speech in the U.S. prior to publication.

    The Pentagon Papers were relevant to national security and there could not be prior restraint on publishing those. https://legal-dictionary.thefr...

    Some state attorney generals willies about someone 3D printing a gun isn't even close to a national security issue. Stopping the information from being posted until a final adjudication should be nigh-on impossible.

  2. Re:SCOTUS by Train0987 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can legally buy 80% completed receivers online now and a novice can finish them with included jig. As it should be.

  3. Re:It's not really speach by Alypius · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's prior restraint, something that the courts deeply frown upon.

  4. Re:SCOTUS by Woldscum · · Score: 3, Informative

    Also VERY IMPORTANT point. If you are legally able to buy/own a firearm (AK, AR, BB gun, Shotgun, Pistol, etc). You are 100% legally able to build yourself one or 100 of them. Just not for sale, must be for your own use. Making a gun for someone else would make you a manufacturer and need a Type 7 FFL. They would need to ban blueprints and STL files of gun receivers too. A CNC milling machine uses "flies from the web" also.

    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/q...
    ATF FAQs
    Does an individual need a license to make a firearm for personal use?
    No, a license is not required to make a firearm solely for personal use. However, a license is required to manufacture firearms for sale or distribution. The law prohibits a person from assembling a non–sporting semiautomatic rifle or shotgun from 10 or more imported parts, as well as firearms that cannot be detected by metal detectors or x–ray machines. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and advance approval by ATF.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(o), (p) and (r); 26 U.S.C. 5822; 27 CFR 478.39, 479.62 and 479.105]

  5. Re:SCOTUS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    3D Printed guns are crap. Ask a firearms expert what the best way to use plastic as a barrel for a gun is. Wait for him to stop laughing.

    The "Liberator" is such a terrible weapon that you'd be better off with a slingshot and a lead ball.

  6. Half hour with plumbing parts, no tools by raymorris · · Score: 5, Informative

    You don't even need any "metal shop" tools to make a gun. That just helps to make a better one. My nephew and I assembled one from metal plumbing parts a few days ago. It took about half an hour, with nothing but hand tools.

    Guns have been around since the 1300s, around the same time the hourglass was invented. Which shows they can be built with tools and equipment less advanced than what Columbus had on board the Santa Maria.

    1. Re:Half hour with plumbing parts, no tools by scubamage · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is 100% true. My grandfather was a gunsmith. He showed me how you can use a rubber band, a nail, and an old car antenna to make a small calibre zip gun. Like you said, guns have been made from the 1300s. And almost every failure prone part has been engineered away and combined into a modern bullet (wadding, spark, gunpowder, projectile). At this point, most of what a gun does is hold a bullet in place so the primer can get hit by some kind of pin, and point the projectile and gasses somewhere.

  7. Re:SCOTUS by Oceanplexian · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, they're not. Check out the Ghost Gunner. You can buy an 80% lower receiver for an AR-15, pop it in the "printer/CNC", load up the files, and it will drill everything out to finish it. You can then go and buy all the rest of the parts (Barrel, Grip, Muzzle, Upper), which can be purchased legally, unregulated, with cash if you'd like. They sell those parts off the shelf of most sporting goods stores. Put it all together and you have a rifle that's as good or better than one from a factory.